Ships of light, Great UFO Documentary...If this is REAL then WOW

a reply to: GeminiSky

Well heres the thing....the burden of proof does not lie with me. Like I said I am simply presenting the videos I found, and offering MY opinions on the content. If someone screams hoax then they should prove it... - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

And so are other members, but when they give their opinion they are wrong...why is that?

As far as burden of proof please read my signature as it does apply here.

Very interesting documentary, and I enjoyed your replies to the thread itself as well.

Truth or not, there's always tidbits of information to be learned by watching these things. If not immediately, it may cause an "aha!" moment during future research.

S+F

I don't believe their hoax jobs most of the time either, and even in cases where someone is forced to compromise, that's because its the real deal and they're getting too many viewers. When that happens, and you've signed any contracts in the past, they can shred your reputation.

All of this being said, before I would commit to watching a 2 hour video, is there any similarity between what is filmed here and Dorothy Izzat's case, which I found remarkable?

C. Diaz: "My alien friends lent me the tripod."

Wow, and this isn't in the HOAX bin already?

originally posted by: gavron

C. Diaz: "My alien friends lent me the tripod."

Wow, and this isn't in the HOAX bin already?

Suppose you were the person who was lent a tripod by an alien, how would you word it?

I'm not saying any of this is real (I'm grabbing the vids now to view later) but to send something to the hoax bin because YOU dont like the way it was expressed is silly!

a reply to: VoidHawk

The problem is that these debunker folks keep quoting an ALLEGED conversation that someone had with carlos about the tripod. None of these individuals actually watched the video that they are commenting on... which is pretty sad but also telling of their intentions. ..

GS

originally posted by: GeminiSky
a reply to: VoidHawk

The problem is that these debunker folks keep quoting an ALLEGED conversation that someone had with carlos about the tripod. None of these individuals actually watched the video that they are commenting on... which is pretty sad but also telling of their intentions. ..

GS

LOL dont I know it. When you've got time take a look at the thread in my sigy, its full of debunkers offering everything from the common swamp gas theory to mass hysteria!
Really enjoyed your thread about the missing plane, well played

a reply to: GeminiSky

...or, the problem is that these believers keep quoting an ALLEGED UFO encounter where an alien happened to have an extra tripod for Carlos Diaz (a known hoaxer).

Seriously, how many UFO encounters have you heard of where an alien provided the person earth technology to assist them? Why just give him a tripod? Why not give him a state of the art HD camera too? Or better yet, advanced technology to capture the encounter?

originally posted by: VoidHawk

originally posted by: GeminiSky
a reply to: VoidHawk

The problem is that these debunker folks keep quoting an ALLEGED conversation that someone had with carlos about the tripod. None of these individuals actually watched the video that they are commenting on... which is pretty sad but also telling of their intentions. ..

GS

LOL dont I know it. When you've got time take a look at the thread in my sigy, its full of debunkers offering everything from the common swamp gas theory to mass hysteria!
Really enjoyed your thread about the missing plane, well played

why thank you. ..its the only way I play. If someone says Carlos is a "known" hoaxer the burden of proof is with them and so far besides the tripod argument (which I beleive was made to discredit this poor man) there has been nothing offered to substantiate the claim that he is a "known" hoaxer.

oh shilly shillies will you ever stop trying?

GS

Because some people are hired by the hidden powers to disrupt ufology, you can't tell always, but I'm beginning the video without feedback, and can only go on some impressions. He speaks in a normal way, low key and appears to be sharing something geniune. But the picture of the craft, its similar. So its possible. The outline is showing, ie its akin to a cloudship, but the orange/red coloring is common in the real crafts, the ones choppers chase, and the exact appearance is very attuned to whatever they want to impart anyway, its not our type of science. Also, I'm at the beginning and haven't reached anything where the tripod is given, but....its more than possible, anything can happen with ET. They can beam in and drive your car like I experienced, layered in and out of you, and show you how to take those mountain corners at high speeds without fear. They can almost do anything or can depending on what we can think of as "anything".

The drawback in his case is that he seems to be a photographer, which doesnt exclude his being a contactee too, but he could have been hired.

So the onlly thing to go on, is what is possible, and from the beginning, of course this is possible, and alot more.

originally posted by: Unity_99
Because some people are hired by the hidden powers to disrupt ufology, you can't tell always, but I'm beginning the video without feedback, and can only go on some impressions. He speaks in a normal way, low key and appears to be sharing something geniune. But the picture of the craft, its similar. So its possible. The outline is showing, ie its akin to a cloudship, but the orange/red coloring is common in the real crafts, the ones choppers chase, and the exact appearance is very attuned to whatever they want to impart anyway, its not our type of science. Also, I'm at the beginning and haven't reached anything where the tripod is given, but....its more than possible, anything can happen with ET. They can beam in and drive your car like I experienced, layered in and out of you, and show you how to take those mountain corners at high speeds without fear. They can almost do anything or can depending on what we can think of as "anything".

The drawback in his case is that he seems to be a photographer, which doesnt exclude his being a contactee too, but he could have been hired.

So the onlly thing to go on, is what is possible, and from the beginning, of course this is possible, and alot more.

Thats very intersting, ets actually showed you how to take high speed corners safely in your car? Watch the video and do come back to share your view, as well as some more detail on your own UFO encounters...

GS

UFO Videos - Carlos Diaz Footage

This one, yeah that is what they look if at that height, even lower they often have that red light. The tumbling light effect is common.

Think he's quite believable.

The comment about ufo suddenly appearing. They do that, and suddenly disappear too. That comment was ridiculous as if the commenter was defining what ufo's do, and when it comes to that kind of technology, its more what they can't do? Since they can use the remote on your software, freeze time, play time for you like a dvd, seem to be from outside our realm of reality, as if we're in a simulated one, its really not something any of them can define.

The only drawback is he is a professional photographer, but then then he depicts accurate types of sightings, not hollywood version, but the backyard real versions. So without proof he's on an assignment from a very high level that is aware of the backyard most likely sighting scenario, and the way most see them, bringing it down to the grassroots like this, and not a hollywood version, have to say its a pretty good capture of a real case.

The contact part of this, is also being used as hoax. Well, if you see one, you've been aboard. Most don't remember, but if you're good natured, kind, gentle and seeking in any way, chances are rather high, you'll have some memories.

originally posted by: Unity_99

UFO Videos - Carlos Diaz Footage

This one, yeah that is what they look if at that height, even lower they often have that red light. The tumbling light effect is common.

Think he's quite believable.

The comment about ufo suddenly appearing. They do that, and suddenly disappear too. That comment was ridiculous as if the commenter was defining what ufo's do, and when it comes to that kind of technology, its more what they can't do? Since they can use the remote on your software, freeze time, play time for you like a dvd, seem to be from outside our realm of reality, as if we're in a simulated one, its really not something any of them can define.

The only drawback is he is a professional photographer, but then then he depicts accurate types of sightings, not hollywood version, but the backyard real versions. So without proof he's on an assignment from a very high level that is aware of the backyard most likely sighting scenario, and the way most see them, bringing it down to the grassroots like this, and not a hollywood version, have to say its a pretty good capture of a real case.

I would have to agree...Also have you ever thought the aliens made contact with him because he was one of the few, if not the only one with a decent camera and equipment in his village/town?

Maybe the ETs knew that he would record and made contact with him so he could spread the word...

GS

a reply to: GeminiSky


When you're experiencing ufology related things, as our family has, and asked many questions of those who befriend you, usually with military backgrounds, or ex military backgrounds...the general consensus is that you are under the scrutiny of many different types of et who monitor anyone who is more psi, more aware, more aware of good realms and realities, who is probably as Dolores Cannon would say, one of the waves, though there aren't just 3.

All people have checkups, and there are sides, from those trying to set you off waking up or doing soul work, those trying to wake you up, ie family and friends from past or future steps, and a whole lot in between with many different agendas, from black op related, to scientific observers, to site see'ers even. The more aware you are, the more you stand out under the stars, meditate, or ask for help for earth and all its people, and seek healing and help for everyone, the more you get all kinds watching over and interfering.

Its very likely he had a soul purpose, needing some nudgings, was good with a camera and they waited until he was out in the woods, alone, to give him a reason to take pictures, and wake him up.

If he's above the fray of anger and wars, inequality, and all the harsh lessons on this planet, he'd be probably able to remember alot more. And get some trips out of here, ie, home visits even. Sleeper and even ET_MAN would call this, pixie dust.

a reply to: GeminiSky

The driving is one my big et miracles that I'll hold close to my heart all my life. Yes. Don't like long distance trips over mountain passes, where you have to get up to 110 km, pass semis or the traffic is blocked, winter or rain conditions, lots of corners. Kids often onboard and me white knuckled trying to keep it safe.

What would happen, every time driving would become a nightmare like this, would have contact, see the crafts in my mind, and out of the corner of my eye, see some of my contacts on the craft and even those I would call family. On the one occasion, he somehow beamed or projected himself down, half submerged in me and half out, and for about 10 minutes roughly, was connected to my mind and drove the car, I wasn't doing it, just observing where to look into the corner in each direction to make it really smooth at the highway speeds we were going and the rest of the trip was wonderful. And that was one of the big ufology related miracles we experienced.

Note on the trip to the interior of the province, we had sightings, that we all saw, and my youngest son was quite alarmed saying they were following us, and one appeared right over the small lake at my grandmothers, and flew really low, possibly a few hundred feet over the house, right directly overhead and had the kids scrambling to reach the balcony and my grandmother's telescope, but my older teenage son, who has 20 20 vision just stood there with me and said, its a diamond shaped craft under the light. We saw 2 crafts altogether where the light was not typically an orb covering what was a saucer when it came close to the city lights that started at our roofline. But these 2 had height.

Anyway, on the trip home, after arriving and in the shower had another contact experience where the same crew and/or man, took me through this portal to a city in space that I seemed to remember or recognize right into a counsel meeting, then woke up back in my shower. My impression was either a real planet, city, or an artificial planet, because that came to mind, and it didn't matter either way, for it was very natural.

As was saying, seem to recognize some of it being via family, or those that I feel very close to.

originally posted by: Unity_99
a reply to: GeminiSky

The driving is one my big et miracles that I'll hold close to my heart all my life. Yes. Don't like long distance trips over mountain passes, where you have to get up to 110 km, pass semis or the traffic is blocked, winter or rain conditions, lots of corners. Kids often onboard and me white knuckled trying to keep it safe.

What would happen, every time driving would become a nightmare like this, would have contact, see the crafts in my mind, and out of the corner of my eye, see some of my contacts on the craft and even those I would call family. On the one occasion, he somehow beamed or projected himself down, half submerged in me and half out, and for about 10 minutes roughly, was connected to my mind and drove the car, I wasn't doing it, just observing where to look into the corner in each direction to make it really smooth at the highway speeds we were going and the rest of the trip was wonderful. And that was one of the big ufology related miracles we experienced.

Note on the trip to the interior of the province, we had sightings, that we all saw, and my youngest son was quite alarmed saying they were following us, and one appeared right over the small lake at my grandmothers, and flew really low, possibly a few hundred feet over the house, right directly overhead and had the kids scrambling to reach the balcony and my grandmother's telescope, but my older teenage son, who has 20 20 vision just stood there with me and said, its a diamond shaped craft under the light. We saw 2 crafts altogether where the light was not typically an orb covering what was a saucer when it came close to the city lights that started at our roofline. But these 2 had height.

Anyway, on the trip home, after arriving and in the shower had another contact experience where the same crew and/or man, took me through this portal to a city in space that I seemed to remember or recognize right into a counsel meeting, then woke up back in my shower. My impression was either a real planet, city, or an artificial planet, because that came to mind, and it didn't matter either way, for it was very natural.

As was saying, seem to recognize some of it being via family, or those that I feel very close to.

That is amazing!! I wonder if all the stories of guardian angel encounters were actually ETs that were our soul family and friends watching over us in our human incarnations....

GS

a reply to: GeminiSky

Hey man, they are true, but here is the biggest problem - imagine how much certain factions of the government do not want to release secrets that would effect national security - now multiply that by about 100 and that is how much the aliens themselves do not want to release themselves and make known their existence. But they did like to show off a little which was pretty cool, maybe it was an aspect of 'alien ego.'

General Harry Nations Cordes was a high-placed General in the US Air Force who had top secret clearance and worked at some of the most secretive places in the world including Area 51. According to his widow his experiences in Roswell, New Mexico prove beyond a doubt that the Roswell Incident was in fact real and that it genuinely involved extraterrestrial visitation.

George Filer, a retired Air Force intelligence officer, told The Huffington Post that he believes Ramey was forced to lie about the Roswell incident. And, in news that will come as a shock even to ardent UFO researches, he told The Huffington Post in an exclusive interview that Ramey's wife told him he was "embarrassed about having to lie about the weather balloon."

Blanchard then told Lytle that an alien craft had crashed near Roswell. According to Hastings, Blanchard told Lytle that four bodies had been recovered. Surprised by this, Hastings asked Lytle, "Blanchard actually told you that the Roswell object was an alien spacecraft." Lytle said, "Oh, absolutely." In break with the traditional story, Blanchard said that some of the bodies had gone originally to Muroc Army Air Field (now Edwards Air Force Base), but that they all wound up at Wright Field.

"It was not a damn weather balloon -- it was what it was billed when people first reported it," said Chase Brandon, a 35-year CIA veteran.

Astronaut Edgar Mitchell told interviewer Lisa Bonnice: 'Because I grew up in the Roswell area and when I went to the moon, some of the old timers from that period, some locals, and others military and intelligence people, who were under rather severe oaths to not reveal any of this and kind of wanted to get their conscience clear and off their chests before they passed on...And what I'm saying is they confirmed the Roswell incident was a real incident and they in some way had some part in it that they wanted to talk about. He said that these locals told him 'the crash of an alien spacecraft in the Roswell area was a real event and much of the lore, I can't say all of the lore, but much of the fact that dead bodies were recovered and live ones were recovered, that they were not of this world, was the story. I did take my story to the Pentagon-not NASA, but the Pentagon-and asked for a meeting with the Intelligence Committee of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and got it. I told them my story and what I know and eventually had that confirmed by the admiral that I spoke with, that indeed what I was saying was true.'

a reply to: MysterX

In fairness, what you say is possible of course, but neither you nor i have seen a UFO up close and moving...the craft may well move naturally as to look as though it is 'being moved' by hand. It may be a function of the type of drive system it employs.

True enough and yet that short segment is enough for me to favour the hoax explanation. It's one-dimensional, lacking depth and someone like elevenaugust could reproduce it. It's good enough for others to believe in and that's their prerogative. It hasn't been *proven* as a fake but nobody has taken the time like they have with the Meier and Adamski stuff.

There are some good cases out there to justify all that interest in UFOs. I'm a 'believer' in the sense that I've seen a couple that resist conventional explanation.

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: MysterX

In fairness, what you say is possible of course, but neither you nor i have seen a UFO up close and moving...the craft may well move naturally as to look as though it is 'being moved' by hand. It may be a function of the type of drive system it employs.

True enough and yet that short segment is enough for me to favour the hoax explanation. It's one-dimensional, lacking depth and someone like elevenaugust could reproduce it. It's good enough for others to believe in and that's their prerogative. It hasn't been *proven* as a fake but nobody has taken the time like they have with the Meier and Adamski stuff.

There are some good cases out there to justify all that interest in UFOs. I'm a 'believer' in the sense that I've seen a couple that resist conventional explanation.

Ah Kandinsky how pleasant for you to grace my threads yet again...Instead of watching the short segment, how about viewing the case presented on the full videos in the OP? Surely you'd want to view all the info available before favoring a hoax explanation?

GS