Canadian DOD guy: There WILL BE WW3, this is not doom porn

I would believe him and his 300 weapon theory he "knows" about of course that info is compartmentalized and nuclear stuff is up there with UFOs so I have a question:
Since you are SO connected EXACTLY what does the US have in orbit? If he doesn't know he's a BS artist assuming data,if he DOES know it would render his theory mute.

reply to radiation and cancer

Geo politics is not black and white but rather, many shades of grey. What happens to all of us is in the hands of an elite group which is divided into several factions. The agenda for all of us is psychopathic, and so are it's leaders. I also think that there is a supernatural or extra dimensional tip of the pyramid. I am convinced that there is friction among the competing factions, as to their role in the final draft of the New World Order; defining the pecking order if you will.
Although there is animosity among the largest factions; The London bankers (ie US, UK, and Israel), China, and Russia, it is largely choreographed for public consumption, so that the control and surveillance grid that is being built can be justified by a perceived external threat. Why do I say this?
Under Clinton all the nuclear technology including guidance technologies were handed over to Chinese scientists. David Rockefeller himself praised the Chinese system of a ruling plutocracy controlling a feudal mass. Today American corporations routinely hand over industrial technology to build plants in China at the expense of the US economy. Even the Defense contractors rely heavily on Chinese mfd. components in military hardware. WHY?
If we are in a true adversarial relationship wouldn't this seem suicidal or at the least illogical and reckless.
The relationship with Russia and the West seems a little more of an enigma than the Chinese relationship. Vlad is painted as a victim and White Knight taking on the evil bankers from the City of London. He is portrayed as a peacemaker of even greater stature than the Nobel Peace Prize winning President. Gorbachev has stated that he would like to see a global government. He sees this as being achieved through the UN, IMF and World Bank. recall that in the 1940's nuclear technology was given to Russia. WHY?
In 2009 Putin called for a super reserve currency under the control of the IMF. Media talks about Russia wanting a separate gold back currency as does China. Why would Putin want the IMF as overseerer of a super currency? Because the IMF is controlled by the bankers. More recently Putin and his Finance Minister pushed for an IMF bailout for Ukraine. Russia's Central bank is also a member of the BIS. Putin has been praised by globalist publications like Time Magazine and The Times of Britain. WHY?
Russia, the US and China are false champions dueling in a fake gladiator match paid for by the IMF. We are witness to some of the dynamics between competing factions jockeying for positions at the head table of the NWO.
The global bankers have ruined the US and other economies. As history has shown us Economic breakdown is invariably followed by war. This causes respective populations to rally behind the flag and forget about who screwed what and who. It is hard to achieve a New World Order of equals when one nation is a sole superpower. It makes negotiations more difficult. This explains why the globalists are systematically dismantling the US economy and setting up for the destruction of it's military. Poor people are easier to manipulate than wealthy people. A collapsing economy makes it difficult to sustain an expanding military and empire.
There are many flash points in the world today; Iran, N. Korea, disputed islands in Japan, and of course Ukraine. A false flag or mistake at any of these could trigger a choreographed war. It will happen, the only questions is when. All parties are nuclear so a miscalculation by any of the three could unleash an extinction event. As it stands right now, the Bankers in the City of London are holding the best cards in the game. When war does erupt, humanity's best case scenario will be, no deviation from the script.










a reply to: RadiationAndCancer

originally posted by: Arktos1

originally posted by: projectbane
a reply to: RadiationAndCancer



This whole situation is wrong. China WILL back Russia hands down when it comes to it and so will iran!!

I disagree with your point here totally. There has never been, and will never be any love lost between China and Russia. The Chinese have a huge economic problem creeping up on them month by month. Are you saying that they would side side with the Russians in a global war against the US & Europe? They may (in the media) to some to be allied with Russia, but make no mistake about it, they would not trade buttered bread for a stale loaf. Siding with the rest of the planet against Russia would in fact be a huge power move for China, thrusting them further into a position of global ascendance & dependence.

I also think your point about Britain not being in a financial position for war works against the likes of Iran, but would totally moot when it comes to this particular situation. It is not just the US and GB involved here after all. All of Europe, most of the Middle East, parts of Africa and all of Asia would stand to lose a great deal by siding with Russia, with very limited upside potential.

This is not a unilateral effort at all. Putin will can puff out his bear fur all he likes, he broke the rules, and sent everyone scrambling for a minute. My guess is that if he continues he will destroy the Russian economy (and himself) for the next 20 years.

The Chinese do not need the US to save its economy if the Yuan becomes the worlds reserve currency.

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a reply to: projectbane

Exactly.

Ukraine to the Russians is like Kosovo is to the Serbs.

The Russians were humiliated in Kosovo, I should know, I was there and saw the frustration and resentment on their faces.

They won't be humiliated again mark my words.

originally posted by: WatchRider
a reply to: projectbane

Exactly.

Ukraine to the Russians is like Kosovo is to the Serbs.

The Russians were humiliated in Kosovo, I should know, I was there and saw the frustration and resentment on their faces.

They won't be humiliated again mark my words.

Don't forget of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. There has been a rift of adversity between the two nations in their proxy wars since the end of WWII. Ukraine is just another pawn. Difference being, most Ukrainians have tasted Soviet and Russian rule, at the expense of many lives and a damaged economy that is still decimated to this day with Russian influence.

a reply to: cayrichard

You've got it right -

When people in the world wake up and realize all the psychopatic leaders of the world are working together for depopulation, slavery, and the NWO - maybe we, peons, can make a difference.

Until then, we are doomed.

originally posted by: Domo1
Am I the only one that read that in a Russian accent?

No, it's pretty clear. Only a complete ignoramus would fall for this. This guy over in that other forum has 18 posts total, and he clearly has difficulty typing English, unless he's drunk on Vodka.

He's certainly no past / present member of the Canadian military or government, what a complete load of bull crap. It sounds like some average Russian dude wrote it, or a paid lap dog.

Shillism has really become rampant these days. ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: [post=17844243]Bearack
The Chinese do not need the US to save its economy if the Yuan becomes the worlds reserve currency.

The Yuan will not be allowed to become the Worlds reserve currency, and that is what you do not understand. ~$heopleNation

if only we had a bad ass alien savoir with some dragons to break us all from our chains....

originally posted by: SheopleNation

originally posted by: [post=17844243]Bearack
The Chinese do not need the US to save its economy if the Yuan becomes the worlds reserve currency.

The Yuan will not be allowed to become the Worlds reserve currency, and that is what you do not understand. ~$heopleNation

Unless the US plans on tripling her population over the next decade, there won't be anything anybody can do about it.

The irony, is that the Chinese government really doesn't want the renminbi to become the reserve. Unfortunately, they have reached the point where the same mechanisms that were preventing it are also hurting their economic growth...so they are slowly removing them.

originally posted by: [post=17844484]peck420
Unless the US plans on tripling her population over the next decade, there won't be anything anybody can do about it.

Actually there is plenty that can be done about it. Your error is that you assume that it's the U.S all by itself.

If you believe that is the case, then you're not paying attention. ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: SheopleNation

originally posted by: [post=17844484]peck420
Unless the US plans on tripling her population over the next decade, there won't be anything anybody can do about it.

Actually there is plenty that can be done about it. Your error is that you assume that it's the U.S all by itself.

If you believe that is the case, then you're not paying attention. ~$heopleNation

You honestly think other countries will come to the aid of the USD? Laughable.

Every country will do whatever they need to do to maintain their own economics. If that means trading in Yuan instead of USD, then they will trade in Yuan. If it means trading in Euros, they will trade in Euros.

Canada, the US's single safest trade partner has already started to trade in Yuan. Australia and Germany, both long and staunch US allies...also have begun trading in Yuan.

From 2012 to 2013, Yuan's trade volume increased by 7.87% of the global share. According to the Germans (Deutsche Bank) the Yuan has increased her global share by 3% in 2014 already, with the potential to hit 7% before tapering into a steady 3%/yr growth pattern.

That gives a low end global volume of 11.66% and a high end of 15.66%, at end of 2014. On the projected 3% year path, they overtake the USD somewhere between 2025-2026. About a decade from now.

In all likelihood, the 3%/yr is a low ball and we should really expect growth between 4-6%/yr.

There are some things that this guy is right about. I have stated in many threads that if war did break out, which I still don't think it will, it will definitely NOT be a nuclear confrontation. This person states that this non-nuclear war would soon escalate with the use of tactical nuclear weapons, and I think that is wrong. The ONLY way either side would use any types of nuclear weapons would be if they had lost any advantages they had, and were threatened severely with losing. And if that happens, they will use nuclear-tipped ICBM's. Tactical nuclear warheads will not come into play. Tactical nukes, for those who don't know, are designed for battlefield use. They are much smaller than those that would be launched on an ICBM at another country.

Another thing this man is right about is the missile defense systems in place. In fact, Russia has a superior MDS when compared with the US, but regardless, any system can be overrun relatively easily. He states that simulations suggested 300 warheads can be intercepted, which I think is quite incorrect. Even if sims did show that, it will be far less in reality. I had always figured the US could take down approximately 100 incoming nuclear missiles, so anything over that amount would detonate.

Something else that must be realized is that even if what he states is correct, although I believe he is incorrect about the number of US bases across the globe, which is more like 600 or so, one must realize that the US is not going to push for war. If they feel there is any chance of actual conflict, they will back off. That is IF they truly are pushing things in Ukraine, which I am not convinced of. It is plausible though, so I could be wrong.

I still do not believe Russia will invade Ukraine. Russia's main concern was holding Crimea, which is quite important to their military and overall strategy, as it allows them the quickest access to certain parts of the world, including the ever important Mediterranean. So despite what seems to be going on, Russia does not necessarily wish to control Ukraine. Well, they do in a way, and would if it could be done without condemnation from the rest of the world, but Ukraine is too pro west at this point. I just do not think it is likely that Russia will decide to overrun the entire country. I don't view that the same way as overrunning Crimea. That situation was much different, considering the population was only 25% Ukranian, and 50% Russian, while Russia has a lease for another handful of decades and is allowed to station 25,000 troops there, as well as limited military hardware. So of course they will go all out to protect what they've gained there.

Notice how they did that right away though? That is what they would have done if they were going to invade Ukraine. They have lost the element of surprise, which has allowed defensive lines to be established, will mean more dead if they do decide to invade. I think that every day that passes brings less fear of an invasion by Russia.

a reply to: peck420

What is "laughable" my friend is all your dartboard projections about an uncertain future. ~$heopleNation

reply to: andr3w68

tbh it's either too late and getting #ed up is now almost guaranteed and imminent or we have time. Bundy has shown us the start, now is the time to act if its not too late in every country round the world.

originally posted by: SUPERT303
reply to: andr3w68

tbh it's either too late and getting #ed up is now almost guaranteed and imminent or we have time. Bundy has shown us the start, now is the time to act if its not too late in every country round the world.

Or

You are not pointing out the obvious that an ex KGB guy skilled in games of Cold War, who is calculated and knows how to play game of words, the mind and able to control an army effectively, shows us that the USA is not good at playing as he has made Barry look weak no matter what his counter is.

And this is I think really getting under the skin of The White House and Wall Street. Any move.

Though when they signed this agreement recently to de-escalate both sides, and diss-arm militias, the exact opposite has happened on both sides. If you do not like this comment then and think about the propaganda being fed to us on both sides are all lies regardless. Even if your die hard on this and will not believe what I am saying that both sides are lying, and try and say one is and the other is right, then you stand incorrect.

I really have no idea what is in the future, it's either very bleak or very good. So sit back and enjoy doing whatever you do to pass time, or get ready for the STHTF and expect it About July 20th - July 29th

Yaaaaawwwwn....more doom porn on ATS. Gee, how refreshing, lol.

Storm in a tea cup....we've been threatened with Nuclear war since 46....and nothing has came of it....Why would that be...MAD

Russia has mostly been invaded from the west, therefor Russia has always wanted 'buffer states' on its western frontier, so, any state on its (Russia's) western frontier is courted to keep it in Russia sphere of influence.
Russia was invaded twice in the twentieth century, the fist world war, and the allies in Northern Russia, then again roughly twenty years later, from the west again, Russia thinks in century's, much like the Chinese and Catholic church, not 4-5 years as with western politicians, that might be what the Americans don't understand.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: RadiationAndCancer

yea good luck challenging the most tenacious and determined military to have ever existed. Not to mention technologically superior on so many fronts you couldn't count them with basic arithmetic. But lets go non conventional and guess what end of the world, I always knew we were gonna die this way. Im reasonable not stupid

I bet a lot of Roman soldiers said stuff like that too.....Right up until the end.

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