I've Had Enough of This Gay Marriage Crap.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

My reason for starting this thread is an incident that I was involved with last night. I took a date (female) to a very nice restaurant for dinner last night. A few tables over were two women, supposedly celebrating their marriage, making out. I'm not talking about just kissing, I'm talking hands up skirts, bared breasts, the whole works

emmmmm......

you complained about this?

Sounds like a really good night out to me, most guys need to pay for that sort of action or visit some questionable websites

.......

Seriously though, I personally think that "Marriage" is a religious institution and government should keep out of it but at the same time i think that homosexual couples deserve the same legal rights as heterosexual couples.

But where was this restaurant...

EDIT:

PS. pics or it didn't happen.

not all lesbians are the lipstick porno types you think of, man.....

I agree the gay marriage thing is over controvised (if thats a word) and repulsive to hear about over and over... But two girls making out, hand up skirts is nothing to complain about. I would have been gawking......I guess girl/girl action isn't for everyone.

a reply to: prevenge

dude it was a joke, i do know that.

a reply to: JIMC5499


youshould have gotten creative and had your lady friend go over there an say she was a lesbian also and those girls were behaving in bad taste and they should stop... coming from another "lesbian" it might have circumvented any complaining or protesting...

It seriously annoys me when I see people criticising other people who say "I'm not a homophobe, but....." (or something along those lines).

This ties in with what the OP is talking about, rights gone too far and people not being able to express an opinion with out being branded a homophobe/bigot/racist, whatever the subject touches on.

The fear of being branded such a thing in todays society is unacceptable, just because you have a differing opinion, nobody should have to defend or explain themselves for that opinion, within reason of course.

Take me for example, I don't have a problem with gays, one persons love for another should never be criticised or torn apart....but I do have an issue with gay marriage (under the eyes of God), and yes, it is for religious reasons, I think civil partnerships, with all the rights of a married heterosexual couples, was a perfect solution.

Should my opinion not count? Should I have to defend myself against the hordes who now think I am a homophobe simply for that opinion?

I see it in the same light as being accused of being a racist just because one is sick of mass uncontrolled immigration into ones country.

I have seen people called sexist for not allowing a woman to do a job that even the strongest of men would struggle with.

The rights issue has gotten out of control, people play on it too much..

As far as the story in the OP, I would have had an issue with it had it been a heterosexual couple doing it, especially if my son had been with me.....but they were gay, so nobody wanted to do anything for of being branded a homophobe and the repercussions of that.

Whatever happened to good old common sense of decency.

Flame away haters, I know I'm not a homophobe, your meaningless accusations will fall upon deaf ears.

OP, I'm gay and pro marriage, but let me say this;

The way that couple were acting has absolutely nothing to do with marriage and it was well out of order.

How's about this for an idea, arrange a straight boycott of the restaurant. The management should have listened to your concerns and in the name of decency done something about it i.e. remind those girls that they are in a public place and that sexual activity is not acceptable.

There is a huge difference between a little kiss and holding hands to what you have seen. I am on your side in stating that its totally inappropriate behaviour. As a gay person, I believe it doesn't matter who's going for it like that, it belongs in private.

This is how any minority group would play it. Even though your complaint would have been legitimate, and definitely had nothing to do with the fact that they were gay, they would have said they were being discriminated against. I absolutely cannot stand people like this, because they are terrible people. They will attempt to get away with things by playing a "card," whether it be the race card, the gay card, or whatever else. It is sickening.

Where does it all end? I mean some of this stuff is just ridiculous. The whole "equality" thing for every single person who feels "different" from everybody else. People nowadays are too sensitive or something. I cannot put my finger on it exactly. Another problem I've noticed is that it is often the minority that complains the loudest, thus they get their way. And it is so sad that we have to put up with crap like this because everyone is too afraid to say anything, because then you will have all this crap raining down on you because of the ignorance of people like this.

Even though a straight couple would have been told to stop what they were doing in the establishment in your encounter report, the manager knew that if he told the gay couple the same thing they would cry discrimination. Apparently the fact that the rule applies to everyone, not just gays, is not enough to stop them lying in this way. I mean it takes a whole lot of ignorance to actually believe you are being discriminated against, despite the fact that the same rules apply to everybody. So are these people just delusional, or just plain manipulative? And this is not directed at a single minority group, rather it is directed at any group who claims they are being discriminated against.

And then what is even worse is that these same groups can turn around and discriminate against people who do not belong to their group, and they will get away with it. It has happened numerous times in the past. America is full of too many whiners who feel that they have to make a big deal out of everything. Like I said, I cannot put my finger on what is causing all of this, and it is likely a variety of things. But something definitely needs to be done. The sane people need to start putting their feet down and saying "no, we are not going to allow anyone to get away with this crap anymore." And if any groups cry discrimination, hopefully the rest of the sane people in the world will be able to look at the situation and see where the REAL discrimination lies.


Edit to add: I should have made it clear that there are legitimate cases of discrimination. Just look at why the Civil Rights movement was fought back in the 60's. But it is obvious that is discrimination, but this is not what we are seeing today with stories like this. If these people really want to know what discrimination is, they should go talk to some of the elderly black people who were alive back in those times. I just wanted to make the point that there is a difference in actual discrimination and whiners claiming discrimination.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
Indecent exposure or public nudity charges wouldn't have worked. The inside of a restaurant isn't considered "being in public" in this case. The only person who could have made something like that work would have been the Manager. As far as my recording it on my cell phone goes, I would have been up on charges, the same as that kid who videoed his being bullied.

I think you may have had an opportunity to do something about public lewdness/indecency/nudity, but chickened out & are blaming it on teh eviiiil gayz, bud. Now, I'm dog tired and at the end of my internet search patience rope today, but the following link should suffice in showing a restaurant is considered a public place in PA, not private & therefore, you could have done something.

Something that caught my eye on a PA site, assuming your location is accurate:

Here are just a few situations that may be illegal discrimination in public accommodations:

a restaurant owner refuses to serve a customer wearing religious headgear

I realize that page is for discrimination, but it pretty clearly says right there that a restaurant is considered a public deal in your state. Thus, your comment of "the interior is not a public space" isn't valid. If it's a public place where discrimination isn't put up with legally, then half-naked heavy petting in the middle of dinner isn't put up with, either.

Here's some legal info on Public Lewdness

I don't give a damn about gay marriage. What I do give a damn about is how people can act as those two were doing and nothing was done about it because people don't want to face the backlash that happens when something is said.

Then man up and speak up next time. Backlash be damned, if it's crude, rude or blatantly sexual, you say something instead of whining on the net about it. Also, pics help. A lot. And not just for the cheap thrill for the voyeurs. If it was as bad as you claimed, no one would lampoon you for a short video or a couple of stills for proof.

a reply to: JIMC5499

Why didn't you talk to them yourself? Too scared. JHC, grow a set.

originally posted by: 3u40r15m
I agree the gay marriage thing is over controvised (if thats a word) and repulsive to hear about over and over... But two girls making out, hand up skirts is nothing to complain about. I would have been gawking......I guess girl/girl action isn't for everyone.

Pig.

originally posted by: blupblup

originally posted by: OptimusSubprime
so let's call it what it really is .... SODOMITE marriage.

Really? These two women have a "Sodomite" Marriage?

Um.... you may want to read a book.

I sure enjoy your comments, wow, ha-ha your the guy with the enormous sex drive as in the test, lol,
peeps are firing up your stars, good for you and whole heartedly I say I agree, what right do we have to anything nowadays, I was on a train in Just outside Prague, an old steam train on the way to Karls castle, there was this young couple on the bench in front of us not just at 2nd base, they were at total nookie stage, she was on top and looking over the bench at me and my love at the same time....we were a bit shaken but hell that's how it works nowadays, who are we to rant about how others must behave, somewhere we have to adapt, things in the world are changing faster then they can change the bible to accommodate the new views of life.

Private parts belong in the privacy of a home.

I'm not against gay marriage or anyone showing a little bit of giddyness and love to one another, but if a boob or another private part popped out I would have said something to them, much to my husband's dismay i'm sure.

I love free speech and use it any and every time I feel the need, others should too since that is what we have it for. The manager should be ashamed of himself, no one has a freakin backbone anymore.

I agree with someone else, next time take pics, not to be a pervert but to show their indecency back to them. If they really were popping boobs out that could have made front page yahoo headlines and embarrassed them, maybe would have made others think twice about behaving so lewdly next time.

"I've Had Enough of This Gay Marriage Crap"

vs

" I've had enough of this public indecency/lewd behavior/indecent exposure Crap"


A slightly less bigoted title could have made a world of a difference.

My question becomes however, if two young women behave like that, how does one know it has anything to do with the gay movement?

Maybe in their minds they were doing a Brittney, Miley, Madonna kinda thing, and lgtb politics was the furthest thing from their minds?

as someone said you posted "I've Had Enough of This Gay Marriage Crap"

is it only gay people that do that in restaurants?not for what i,ve seen.i don,t know but the way you,ve posted it i,m sensing its gays that may bother you in general and not just the act.

i,m not gay myself but i,m also not prejudice towards anyone,lifes short as it is so if people are happy then who gives a s**t if thats what makes them happy,goodluck to them.

originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: 3u40r15m
I agree the gay marriage thing is over controvised (if thats a word) and repulsive to hear about over and over... But two girls making out, hand up skirts is nothing to complain about. I would have been gawking......I guess girl/girl action isn't for everyone.

Pig.

A pig with a wig is what I'm is....

a reply to: benrl

Hold on I'm confused now, 'sodomy' no longer means what it used to?
And oral sex is now called sodomy too? Bestiality also?
Who went and changed all the damn definitions?
Just when I got used to using these words the definitions are all out of date!
No wonder everyone is so screwed up, people are doing and asking for stuff they don't know the meaning of!

And why are we talking about gay marriage and sodomy when this story isn't even about that?

a reply to: JIMC5499

You know what you made a good point in this thread! I think it is an interesting idea that marriage should be sanctioned by the religion, not by the state. Therefore, states should abolish all laws regarding marriage and leave that to the various churches, but the paperwork for civil unions should be filed with the state by everyone, straight or gay, in order to receive equal benefits.

a reply to: JIMC5499

Okay, I agree with your thread. That is a straightforward example of not being allowed to express your legitimate viewpoint due to political reasons.