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Ghost shadow appears in Live Fox Sports Transmission.

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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 01:27 AM
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a reply to: Agartha

He does look very fast in the original footage. But not so much in the better quality version.

Based on the high-res footage at actual speed (from about 1:43 in the new video, shown with the on-screen clock and the on-pitch action alongside), I time him at 3.3 seconds from the moment he rounds the corner behind the steward to the moment he reaches the end of that section of seating. Obviously this is subject to measurement error, but I timed it with a stopwatch five times and got 3.2, 3.3 or 3.4 seconds every time.

The length of each seating block is almost exactly 20 metres, according to Google Maps:



(I think he is actually running along the one further along than this, beyond the edge of the pitch, but the spacings are regular. It is complicated slightly by the fact that the blocks start to angle around the curve, but then they are narrower than 20m at the bottom and wider at the top, and he is somewhere in the middle. So 20m is fair.)

20m / 3.3 sec = 6.1 m/sec, or 13.5 mph.

By comparison, Usain Bolt's 100 metre record is 9.58 sec, or 10.4 m/sec (23.3 mph).

Now, we have to take into account that he is accelerating, as he started off by rounding the corner.

Again with a stopwatch, and estimating the midpoint, I measure the time taken to cover the second 10 metres as 1.5 seconds, as compared to 1.8 seconds for the first half.

That is still only 6.7 m/sec, or 14.9 mph.

Fast, but not supernaturally fast! Professional athletes sustain that pace for a whole mile, so a reasonably fit man doing it for this kind of distance is perfectly feasible.
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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 01:39 AM
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a reply to: Agartha

Well there goes my theory. If 2 separate cameras captured it I have no idea what else to say. It really does seem like the figure runs directly through people... but maybe that's just my eyes playing tricks on me. Why does this sort of thing never get captured in HD?



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 01:52 AM
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I am baffled, but I do wonder why the camera cut away from the players at that moment to the figure that wasn't doing anything too special yet, but immediately the camera pans along with the figure as if it is the subject, not the field. Indeed, there is absolutely nothing else of interest in the whole shot, so that raises my suspicions. Also, at the end of the run, there is a sort of haze at the right side of the picture. It looks like the camera is behind glass and the glass is reflecting something. Those two together make me wonder if some of the crew wasn't playing some sort of prank.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 02:06 AM
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The guard that the guy passes doesn't register any surprise or interest in this guy bolting past him. Wouldn't the guard want to see his ticket? Be concerned that this guy is going to hurt someone or maybe is running because someone is chasing him? Nobody is fazed whatsoever at this superhuman speedy gonzalez?
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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 02:17 AM
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a reply to: lindalinda

Not superhuman. Look at my post above. Maybe 15mph which is four-minute mile pace. Anyone can run that fast for a few tens of metres. No idea why he was running, but the final whistle was about to blow so that night have something to do with it.

Seeing as I screwed the pooch with my original idea I thought I ought to spend a few minutes crunching the numbers to redeem myself a little

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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 02:24 AM
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There is a wider aisle at that point that the man is running along,if it was along the very narrow spacing between the normal rows then he would have had to slow down when he came to the people standing there to squeeze past them.
The first video appears to have been selectively edited and speeded up,and then the recording played back and re-recorded on a handheld video camera in front of the TV set,knowing that the loss of quality will further enhance the illusion of a "ghost".



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 02:27 AM
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a reply to: Rob48
This stadium is at something like 4000 metres above sea level,so unless the runner is an athlete who runs up there regularly,he wouldn't be able to keep that speed up for very long.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 02:40 AM
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a reply to: Imagewerx

Ah, less air resistance though


Seriously, yes it baffled me too but it's just a man. Dull but true. Even if he ran twice as far as we see him running that is still no more than 100 metres, even taking into account the steps.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 03:39 AM
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So, a very fast guy who is probably local as foreigners struggle breathing properly there (in 2007 FIFA wanted to ban the stadium from international events as they stated playing there would give the Bolivian national team an advantage over other teams. The Bolivian president and Diego Maradona reacted saying it would discriminate all high altitude countries in Latin America and the ban was lifted)....ok back to topic:

We have:
-A very fast guy, probably local and incredibly fit.
-A guy who can run on a stadium aisle where there's not much space and lots of people sitting and feet on his way.
-A guy nobody seems to notice, not the policeman, not the other football fans.
-A guy who is not coming forward to say that was him......did he go alone? No friends or family recognize him?
And all those people seated: nobody remembers a very fast man running in front of them?

I don't know what to think, to be honest, and I am usually skeptical.......I don't think it's a hoax as it was captured on live television by at least two different cameras......but is it really a mystery?



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 03:41 AM
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originally posted by: Agartha
So, a very fast guy who is probably local as foreigners struggle breathing properly there (in 2007 FIFA wanted to ban the stadium from international events as they stated playing there would give the Bolivian national team an advantage over other teams. The Bolivian president and Diego Maradona reacted saying it would discriminate all high altitude countries in Latin America and the ban was lifted)....ok back to topic:

We have:
-A very fast guy, probably local and incredibly fit.
-A guy who can run on a stadium aisle where there's not much space and lots of people sitting and feet on his way.
-A guy nobody seems to notice, not the policeman, not the other football fans.
-A guy who is not coming forward to say that was him......did he go alone? No friends or family recognize him?
And all those people seated: nobody remembers a very fast man running in front of them?

I don't know what to think, to be honest, and I am usually skeptical.......I don't think it's a hoax as it was captured on live television by at least two different cameras......but is it really a mystery?






it leads me to think its a sort of "double exposure" but the camera tracks so that is just impossible, its either CGI and as we all suspect something really odd and paranormal



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 03:50 AM
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originally posted by: Biigs


it leads me to think its a sort of "double exposure" but the camera tracks so that is just impossible, its either CGI and as we all suspect something really odd and paranormal


I considered that too but it was spotted on live television and captured by different cameras, so I don't think it is CGI.

I am not thinking it's paranormal, but definitely odd! lol




posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 03:54 AM
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I was exaggerating when I said superhuman, although in the regular video it looks ridiculously fast for the conditions, but my point moreover was that anyone going that fast surely should raise an eyebrow for security. Someone breezes by the guy and there's no reaction.
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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 04:41 AM
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I am baffled, but I do wonder why the camera cut away from the players at that moment to the figure that wasn't doing anything too special yet, but immediately the camera pans along with the figure as if it is the subject, not the field. Indeed, there is absolutely nothing else of interest in the whole shot, so that raises my suspicions.


I think you must be just looking at the zoomed in version. In the full screen original clip, the director switches from a close-up of the player to a wide shot at 0:05, because the goalkeeper is about to take the goal kick.

The figure is visible running as soon as the cut to the wide shot occurs, but the camera doesn't start to pan until about 0:10, as the keeper takes the kick. The pan follows the ball down field just as you would expect.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 05:17 AM
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Ok, I think my husband came up with a new and very possible explanation. What if this is a totally real, life on air, clever, projection?
It has all the hallmarks of a projection and is definitively showing a running shadow. What if it is a clever advert, for Nike or Reebok?
We all talk about it aren't we?

I am not saying that this is it but I thought I'd throw this in as another possibility.
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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: Rob48
a reply to: MrConspiracy

That video shows what it is. It's a person. I know I said it was a camera shadow, but I was wrong. The original blurry camera smears him out and makes the motion look all wrong. The sharper SS-365 camera shows him clearly.

Just a person, in a dark jacket with a white shirt underneath, running down the stairs, jumping past the steward, and running. You can even see his jacket flap up as he hops over the corner of the seat row behind the steward. As the video description says: "Otra cámara de otro angulo,muestra en realidad que es una persona que va corriendo y no un fantasma." - "Another camera from a different angle shows that in reality it is a person running, and not a ghost."

The person walking along the touchline turns just as the man runs past. At first I thought he was turning to look at him, but the more I watch the more I think you can see his face, so he is actually turning towards the pitch.


Yeah, I understood the camera stuff until I saw the original video slow mo.

I'd think this was a person too. But I can't help but wonder why nobody he runs passed seems to move out of his way or even notice he's there. If someone was running passed me like that, I'd at least turn my head to look or try and move. Nothing!

Werid



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 11:18 AM
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I'm curious if the camera itself sped it up?
Is it possible to find out the measurements between the seats?
also to me it looks like the most of the people are standing at their seats.


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posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: MrConspiracy
Also the bit where he's running down the stairs and turns to go down the aisle and gets VERY close to one of the stadium officials wearing a hi-vis jacket stood right in the middle.Even if the guy in the hi-vis knew the runner,you'd think there would be some sort of reaction from him,even it was just to turn slightly that way to say "Hey Pedro" or similar.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 06:32 PM
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a reply to: Imagewerx

Agreed. It's like nobody knew he was there!



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 06:43 PM
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Very strange. I can't make sense of it.

It could be a double exposure, I suppose.

I have heard of rumors of shadow people. Not sure how they are different than ghosts.



posted on Apr, 22 2014 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: Agartha

Great find. Sad that the original video uploader decided to ignore that part in effort to fuel a ghost story. It's still interesting that the security doesn't seem to react, as well as if there would be enough room to move that fast through the aisle.

I'm wondering if there would be a higher resolution video so we can clearly make out that the security doesn't react to him, as it does appear a person later on looks left (our right) after the person/object passes him.

It's also interesting that the person/object decides to leave the stairs at the location of the security officer, making it appear as though it's an actual person.

Hard to say, though. At least the camera theory is put to rest, though.



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