Breaking! Bundy Ranch Double Cross? More Feds, Cops, Vehicles, Equipment Arriving!

govmule
reply to post by Quadrivium

 

If that video boils your blood, look at this evidence that was just posted 30 minutes ago!! Vote him out? I say a jail cell sounds better. They are trying to cover it up!!!


www.youtube.com...

oh my god....

and here i thought the chinese solar thing was more bunk, like the fracking thing..

goddamnit, this is for real..

reply to post by diggindirt


don't worry....apparently libel is the cool thing to do these days....think planking, only with vicious lies

i've been libeled on this very site, several times, and nothing ever happens..

reply to post by nighthawk1954


False.

reply to post by nugget1


A friend was telling me the same thing....I cant find any either...I think they dont wanna advertise it knowing that more would join or could join. It does have an erie feeling though...like a calm before the storm.

I dont see how they can turn away....if they dont enforce their law...even though we can argue the legality of that...then this shows if we stand on anything they should stand down...I think they are going back in....and I think they will get what they can for now...could end up being nothing or could be a pretty significant event in history.

cosmicexplorer
reply to post by Runasimi

 

That is actually a really good video...probably my favorite so far of all this...

edit: at least on the harry reid connection

edit on 14-4-2014 by cosmicexplorer because: (no reason given)

hey man...lemme ask you...

does this situation (in terms of the discussion here on ATS) remind you at all of the dorner incident?

i keep waiting for you know who to come in here, and call us all idiots, and accuse us of living vicariously thought "homeboy bundy", lol

reply to post by Daedalus


Im not sure who you are referring to and I tried to remain neutral in that thread...

It is always tough for me because Ive been on both sides...and have feelings for both sides...

FirePiston
I will bet anything that it will happen at night.

Don't snakes hunt at night?

The thing to remember about psychopaths, aka sociopaths, is that they are totally rational and sane, yet without compassion or remorse. ... when you are dealing with a true psychopath, there is no possibility of a positive outcome. Their destructive nature is as immutable as that of a poisonous snake. Snakes in Suits

So, far all those who think there will be a fight (or hope there will be) how does this come across?

Former Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack revealed on Monday that he and other organizers who traveled to Clark County, Nev., to support Cliven Bundy during his land dispute with the feds planned to put women on the front lines in case the “rogue federal officers” started shooting.

Mack made the chilling revelation on Fox News’ “The Real Story” Monday, two days after the tense standoff between Bundy and the federal government came to a peaceful end.

“We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front,” he said. “If they are going to start shooting, it’s going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers.”

There is a video at the link.. Link

ETA: looks like a thread just went up about this topic...

LadySkadi
Not sure the Feds can get away with "shedding blood" unless they can first paint the situation as a danger to "the rest of us" so far, they haven't really been able to do that with Bundy or the supporters.

edit on 14-4-2014 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)

Demonizing the enemy 101.

Phase 1 begins here on ATS...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by LadySkadi


About time they let women in combat hahha.....I understand the tactic...think its stupid..if there is gonna be a fight .. then do it right...if they are trying to persuade them to not shoot then they should remain as peaceful as possible....two thumbs down for me on that move if its actually being considered.


Edit: Also.. a move like that makes me think these groups and supporters arent serious. This isnt a game. When I see the footage going around people seem too calm...which is good to portray anger however..make no mistake they are in a dangerous area...the feds as well. Its like a driving drunk...sure youll probably make it home ok most of the time but its dangerous as hell to ride that edge.

LadySkadi
So, far all those who think there will be a fight (or hope there will be) how does this come across?

Former Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack revealed on Monday that he and other organizers who traveled to Clark County, Nev., to support Cliven Bundy during his land dispute with the feds planned to put women on the front lines in case the “rogue federal officers” started shooting.

Mack made the chilling revelation on Fox News’ “The Real Story” Monday, two days after the tense standoff between Bundy and the federal government came to a peaceful end.

“We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front,” he said. “If they are going to start shooting, it’s going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers.”

There is a video at the link..

Link

To answer your question I think its dumb and cowardly not unlike human shield being used in the ME on both sides.

That said, I don't believe he speaks for the militia, the Bundy's or the protesters and if I heard it correctly, he didn't get there in time because of traffic to submit his idea. Something tells me there is enough common sense to prevail to NOT do that but does it surprise you that MSM would hone in on that? Sculpt the discussion in a way that forces you to assume the collective there are just a bunch of anti-gov nutters.

They report, you decide.

reply to post by Rosinitiate

Well, I would actually agree with you (but for the Mack supporters) it is something to think about...

reply to post by ausername

Or an opportunity for a new beginning?

A phoenix rising is pretty much our only hope at this point isn't it ?
But these flocking basturd engineers of demolition, have her buried
so deep, I see no hope for the spark that would ignite. I think if this
goes vile, evrything will disintegrate. And some one try to tell me that
isn't exactly what THEY want. And no should have to ask me to define
THEY either.

reply to post by nighthawk1954

I don't know if its the real deal or not. Drudge hasn't run anything on it so its hard to say.
What I do know is you have some truly pathetic excuses for human beings who would love to see this come down to an armed confrontation and see civilians get the worst of a shootout. They'd also love to see the feds sacrifice their lives so they could use them as propaganda tools. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail, on both sides. I find it hard to believe agents would commit murder( and risk jail time, loss of pensions and jobs) likewise the same goes for the protestors. One or two knuckleheads on either side is all it would take.
I'd worry too about actual GOONS... Blackwater types or the losers at Craft International( Boston Bombing) that serve no other purpose than to look tough and cash a paycheck that might be brought in to fill in the feds ranks. These are the people who shouldn't be anywhere near the place.

To my Dearest American brothers and sisters...

For the first time in a very very long time ..through out our History ( im Scots/Uk ) .. this incident has truly made me sit up and look at you with a very different eye...

For too long a time we here have seen the Americans as they were represented by their government..cowards and c*nts...

But I saw the true spirit of a none federalist in this incident.. independent Americans that are about to buck the feds and banker w*nkers back into their troughs in such a way they will choke on their own feed....

Its about time really..and i can say with my hand on my heart..if you stay strong and fight the fed government..you will not only follow the usurpation against overly powered and cowardly governments ( as seen in the east ) ..but lead the way for every nation of every people upon this earth to put our governments into place..i.e. THEY are public servants... as are the civil services..the armed forces and the police..THEY are NOT our leaders.....

Good luck and be strong....for all of us that feel a little weakened by the propaganda and bullsh*t that is fed us...give up your fluorinated tap waters and ignore you're TV's .... march on and be strong......

My prayers and hopes are with those that are strong..and especially with those that falter...do NOT GIVE UP..they ( the feds ) will be back and will try to push you down or slaughter you.....

Stay true to the cause and the importance of the sovereignty of the individual and his family......

Yours Aye.....

Weavs.....

Rezlooper

Poppies

Murgatroid
reply to post by Poppies

 

Poppies
In a civilised society, matters such as this are settled in the courts of law. Disliking the findings and rulings of the courts of law is not proof of injustice. Each and every one of us is subject to the rule of law. To think otherwise is pure folly.

For one to actually believe that we LIVE in a civilized society is not only pure folly, it is sheer delusion.

The entire Judicial system is 100% corrupt and one would have to be very naive to think that the criminal justice system has absolutely anything to do with justice.

The judges and high level law enforcement officials are totally Illuminati indoctrinated.

The entire system is designed and has been re-purposed to protect the sociopaths in control of the government AKA the "elite".

The below quote from an interview with Chip Tatum makes this extremely obvious:

"The court system as it's set up today is not setup as a tool for justice, it's setup as a tool for retribution... Anyone that they want, they can get." Chip Tatum - Black Ops Interview (@ 1 hour 16 min)

Our court system has been infiltrated by members of this secret society sworn to protect each other from prosecution of any criminal activity and to render favorable judgments to its member. Other members of society are victimized in the courts.

A short time ago I received an email with a court excerpt, clearly showing how Freemasonry has infiltrated the court system by putting judges, prosecutors and attorneys in key positions. As long as this continues there is no justice but theirs, as those people stand above the law, because they ARE the law.

If people don't know about Freemasonry and its influence on the legal system, they have no clue that they are setup and have little chance of an honest trial.

In this particular case, John, the defendant observes how the Attorney General, Mr. Anthony Krastek is giving a hand signal (the palm up) each and every time his attorney makes a statement, until he cannot take it any longer. He asks Mr. Krastek if he is a Freemason (Exhibit 1, page 7), whereas the Attorney General turns red and gives the full "raised arm palms up" (high distress sign) to the judge, Lawrence J. O'Toole. The judge suddenly loses it on the record, and gives reference to Freemasonic symbols, the ones on the one-dollar-bill (Exhibit 1, page 7).

Freemasons Control the Court (And Thus the Legal System)

The Court System And Freemasonry

The legal system is a joke

What chance does a non - Mason have going into a court of law against Masons when there is a Masonic judge and Masonic attorneys. All a Mason has to do is let a Masonic Judge, or even a Masonic Juror know that he is a Masonic brother and that is that.

Sometimes you look the way a case, is going and it just doesn't make sense. We had one in Seattle not too long ago, in fact the Union my sister worked for was involved in it and nothing went right, even simple points that were obvious to everyone but the Judge. They couldn't figure out what was wrong and I asked her, "Are the defendants and the judge Masons?" She checked it out and found out that they were.

I said, "You don't have a chance. There is no way you can win because, they passed the word to the judge in the lodge or they gave that Judge a signal, they gave him the sign of the square, or the sign of distress, gave him one of a dozen different signs they could give him and that judge was bound by his Masonic code to find for his brother. He is going to do that for the Mason whether he's right or wrong."

There is no way you can win

Good book on this: Lawyers and Judges, American Trojan Horses

To be perfectly honest, I have approximately zero confidence in the justice system when it comes to 'Joe Public versus The State', because in almost every instance, the The State comes out victorious, but at the same time, it is unwise to flout the rule of law, because that makes you an outlaw in the eye of the courts, The State and crucially, the public.

If you flout the courts, you are declared an outlaw - a criminal, and will be treated like one.

To put it bluntly, The State is essentially evil.

At the highest levels, it occupies itself in deciding who to kill.

Sober thinking is advised.

edit on 14-4-2014 by Poppies because: (no reason given)

Sadly, you may be right, so when is enough, enough if the State (feds) is wrong? When does the common man have a say and what will it take? How does one stand up to injustices without being labeled an outlaw?

The system is built from the ground up to protect the power of The State. They are willing to shed as much blood as they feel necessary to maintain the status quo. The common man has his say every day, but The State doesn't listen, and doesn't care what he says. That's not the way I think it should be, but that's the way it is.

I don't think ATS is the best place to announce your Patriotism.

Beware..

reply to post by nighthawk1954


I have just been on the Oathkeepers Las Vegas facebook page, one person has said the Feds are going to attack, a mass exodus of people needs to go to the Bundy ranch.

That is all I could find on the matter, I doubt the feds are going to advertise their intentions.

no link just go to their facebook page.

reply to post by LadySkadi


As long as it's voluntary, what is the problem? I would have a problem if they grabbed some woman and used them as shields unwillingly.

I think something like this happened: