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Or like me being evil, I still have wings! Small as a flea's, yet growing. How so?
VHBMy superficial Ego died in the process; like a phoenix reborn (we are not speaking of anything remotely like as if being reborn into a christian faith dogma); this was a soul driven awareness to the becoming "in Gnosis" of what and who I am. 2005. Yes, the process started in April and ended in November. There were a series of incidents I was involved with (as directed) to change the human paradigm/its relationship to its percieved DemiGod creators and the process was long and arduous. Baby tippy toe steps here and there because this change had to happen beneath their finite gaze; as in using sublime trickery (look this other way instead of here)(all is fair as in to blatently cheat *alter percieved time* in order to right grievous wrongdoings). No one would believe me anyway, the shennanigan goings on; I should write a book. Tell me more about your experience.
WanDash In the same sense that your and my writings and insights appear to be on different planes of the multi-dimensional chessboard, my experience was nothing near yours in scope or effect.
WanDash I have written of it, before, on this site - - - may even have been in one of the threads where you and I participated, together.I often refer to it as the "Two Owls" experience. I'm sure everything had been leading up to the event...for a number of months (don't know that April would be exact - but it would have been within a month on either side, if not).
WanDash Simply - questioning and evaluating the beliefs and belief-system that had been such a huge part of my life, theretofore - and keeping a record of those questions, evaluations, thoughts and answers in the form of web-pages.
I was 'mud-logging'. I would work 24 hours, turn the responsibilities over to a geologist for the next 24 hours, return and resume said responsibilities for 24 hours...week in and week out. We were nearing the 'completion' of an 18,000' well. We had expected it to be completed weeks before, but they had encountered numerous problems, and...the geologist had to leave for his yearly (never missed) vacation, which meant that I would be in the mud-logging trailer until the well was completed.
When he was leaving he said - "Max - 3 days."
As the cards turned, 3 days developed into 15 days.
Well - much of the time through those 15 days was 'down' time - meaning, something went wrong in the drilling process.
I would spend much of that 'down' time documenting the progress of my earlier-noted 'belief-system evaluation' quest.
Probably 10 or 12 days in...I was growing excited - thinking I was approaching a threshold - some 'world/history/life'-changing revelation (the Two Owls noted above, played a part in that growing excitement).
At, or around the 13th night - late in the evening (around midnight), I asked a question of myself that I never thought I would consider...much less - ask.
I started to just erase...and skip it...but knew that if I was ever to be fully convinced of this prime tenet (premise), I should not fear the question - or its answer. I wrestled with it for quite a while. Initially, resorting to 50-years of catechism & pat/cliché answers...but, eventually settling into my responsibility...to myself (at least), and...ultimately, arriving at an answer I had never thought possible. My belief was that - such an answer...if wrong...could result in the wrath of 'God'...and that I might be dead on the floor before I finished writing it...
And, just as I believed...immediately, my chest started to seize - fear gripped me like a vice...and - I won't give all the details of what followed, except to say that...when I came too, outside the trailer, in the dirt, and made my way to the end of the 'pad', I had one of the most amazing experiences of my entire life, that involved one of the Two Owls.By the Way - 2 years later - I was crazy... ETA: When that well was complete - I resigned.
Hexadecimus
Ah, this is a fairly old concept in philosophy. I am sure it dates back several hundred if not thousands of years.Wikipedia: Brain in a vat
vethumanbeing
So, whos responsible for yours being fished out, patted dry; wired up and re-animated?edit on 9-4-2014 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
vethumanbeing
So, whos responsible for yours being fished out, patted dry; wired up and re-animated?
Hexadecimus One can never know, can one? That is the whole point, yet at the same time it disarms this concept because it can only be purely hypothetical.
DonVoigt
Honestly I've actually already thought of this possibility, what's more is that it would explain a few things.and once we get out of this coma/stasis /controlled environment. Or whatever you want to call it I'm kicking a few people or beings A$$es . I'm totally not ok with some of the things that have been done to me within this construct.
vethumanbeing
As a visual Gene Roddenberrys version of 'Vulcan Chess'?. My experiences are not of the real world, anyone observing it would think 'crazytime occurance' is happening. Generally there is shift in the local surroundings, its not reality as you would know it but almost as if being in a completely different dimension simoultaneously strattling both at once. Majick happens in this arena or for lack of a better analogy a no time exists field of energy 'cookpot'; demigods are not aware of what is happening because it occures between pulses of (their invented linear time) or invisable to what they can observe or think they can. Picture events happening right under your nose, you are not always aware of the breaths you take unless you are practicing Prantic breathing. You would understand this method of hiding information from them just by watching the special effects in a movie such as "Jason and the Argonauts" Ray Harryhausen, the jerky motions. So is true for Demigods, they blink; there are ways to outsmart/out think them. One way is to plan events between what they percieve to be a flowing even construct. Nope, their are pulses involved and that inbetween is where change can happen (I dont expect anyone to swallow this as the truth as it is beyond belief; terrifically abstract). …
WanDash
I can only address or respond to bits and pieces at a time, as your comments cover SO much territory…So much of what you describe is equally applicable to my experience/s.
My family, while not counting me crazy, were concerned that I might commit suicide (early in December, 2007)… A Mental Health officer from the Sherriff’s department paid me a visit…which resulted in a trip (in handcuffs & in the back seat of a Police cruiser) to the local hospital for…evaluation.
Everything about the event was…surreal.
WanDash
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Amazing!
Will be back, tomorrow.
Be well.
bugbite
After reading the first 2 pages of this thread I became interested in some of the ideas you guys are throwing around with karma and reincarnation. While I definitely believe in karma im still wary about reincarnation but it would make sense. Is it just me or looking back on the first few years of your life feel robotic or very trance like state almost as if your being controlled to get you ready for the life ahead of you. when i was 2 years old i had a dream where i learned to count all the way to 100 out of no where it was very strange. Almost as if i tapped into knowledge that ive possessed in the past? When i think of karma and reincarnation i tend to think of deja vu. ive had lots of crazy times where it feels like ive already done what im currently doing like it was already a memory, maybe because im watching or reliving my past lives as a way to judge karma and morals for a greater purpose. it honestly trips me the # out haha but i have plenty of more ideas about ancient knowledge and stuff of spiritual nature or maybe its just because im a pothead haha
What vexes me, is why I Believe this to be true ... As if belief would somehow matter - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
vethumanbeing
As a visual Gene Roddenberrys version of 'Vulcan Chess'?. …
…My experiences are not of the real world, anyone observing it would think 'crazytime occurance' is happening. Generally there is shift in the local surroundings, its not reality as you would know it but almost as if being in a completely different dimension simoultaneously strattling both at once. Majick happens in this arena or for lack of a better analogy a no time exists field of energy 'cookpot'; demigods are not aware of what is happening because it occures between pulses of (their invented linear time) or invisable to what they can observe or think they can. Picture events happening right under your nose, you are not always aware of the breaths you take unless you are practicing Prantic breathing. You would understand this method of hiding information from them just by watching the special effects in a movie such as "Jason and the Argonauts" Ray Harryhausen, the jerky motions. So is true for Demigods, they blink; there are ways to outsmart/out think them. One way is to plan events between what they percieve to be a flowing even construct. Nope, their are pulses involved and that inbetween is where change can happen (I dont expect anyone to swallow this as the truth as it is beyond belief; terrifically abstract). …
vethumanbeing
April (eastertime was the catalist, 3 days of the entire world asleep to realign what? the planets; probably someone awake would notice if the sun did not come up on one of those days). It was easy reset the atomic clock and all is fine. Being awake during this period was the oddest of experiences. No one on the roads, could walk into empty grocery stores berefit of people not having to pay anything (even my animals were asleep). Not a dream; this happened; this was a serious event and was glad to be a prt of it. All ritualistic Majick took place in my front room of all places with others I could feel but not see. …
vhb
What was your revelation? What about the significance of the depth of the drill hole 18,000 ft? Two owls would represent two paths offered to you take one. I had a bat fly before my face 2 feet away in stasis/static for 2 solid minutes (being asked the same question) what are you going to do? I said YES anything I can; right afterwards the moon in full had a cloud shaped triangle placed around it, on either side one a dove and a snake appeared. What I had just agreed to was very clear (a dangerous venture that offered the potencial of my mental state falling apart in a complete state of insanity or great hope for the human specie if I could pull this one off). Apologies to all I know it sounds like a made up big fish tale; but this adventure was just one of MANY to follow.