What if the World Already Ended Years Ago

reply to post by vethumanbeing


It's not the allowing that gets me, nor is it the 'I Told You So" either. It's the actually all at once, although they do allow for time for things to sink in................sometimes. First How does one actually Listen, when most would claim "Them Voices are Evil!" Okay; just might Be!

Could They have just been figments from some past/future myself, same as above. The only difference I see is anything could go except the Main Ones seem to be on some rush Timetable! Then again, It might be me doing the rushing.

Yet nowhere is a word to do anything evil, wrong nor bad. Even when I do have some form of thought; I do anyways, I hear Rethink. Hey? I'm only Human seems to be another Lie floating around since there is alot more to it Being Human.

Peace

reply to post by WanDash


Thats the tricky part, first you have to Weed out the many voices already there! Most are so high, they tend to override some small one worth Hearing. Most have to do with Ego and It's Mind Games.

I'm down to 5; I hope! Seems a new one here and there Pop in to say something from time to time. Best to stick finding out Who's doing the Talking and that takes some time. Then it's off redirecting my meaning less question's. Not that every question has no meaning, it the ones you Already have the answer too.

Like for example; I know this relationship is killing both of us, well better use stalemate. When she thinks I'm leaving some thought in her head goes about finding ways to keep me here. I've only had that though twice! 10yrs and now! Yet I myself know I have to show Her the same respect she showed me, Teaching!

So it's my time to wake Her Up! If its not what is needed, Life will come and change for us anyway. Depending on who Follows through to the end, the outcome is either good or will have to do again. Thats why lesions in Life become harder, more Heart Pounding and never the same the next time.

Then to hear what the voices do say, right on Key! Most do not tell you do do anything, they just there to show you many different angles to your question. Like The Cat. 26yrs old, dieing and should be put to sleep. Now the cat goes about its day doing the same thing as always; - a foot. It there, just Black as Hell! Eats, plays and sleeps! I've known this cat 13yrs so have a hard time dealing with it myself.

Now what needs to be done? Could go the putting to sleep, Yet I for one accept the dying at Home Idea! Taking her away to some dark room and not bringing her back is just wrong! Might as well just leave her in a Nurcing home and forget about it like some children do with their parents! many of times I had to be the one taking them, burying them and all the other pets in the house watch Me!

Now the voices claim its Her that has to do this, everytime theirs an difference its you who Killed this or that. Then another goes about saying see how the cat is doing, ask and if you hear just like Fuzzy, it's okay! Another goes about it differently. says that the reason why things are the way they are is because she wants you do deal with it and not herself, and it's something she must do!

I hope this helps you do see different points of views my voices are having in order to get an idea on how to listen. Voices never make you choose one thing for another, just show you different ways one can see how things are; and sometimes the Why.

Peace

reply to post by vethumanbeing


We should just stick to one thing for one page at a time, yet then how does one lets stuff slip by?

Although someone just Had to bring up Freewill! Most of our talks relate to each other and what we do talk about is just the OP trick to Open doors one might have not considered Before.

Time to start Untangling the Webs, update you ideas/thoughs, and get some stuff off your mind. You do not have too, share what you like and keep what is Dear to you! Some might get an Huh?, others might relate, and some just fell down the rabbit hole!

It's all Good! It's all Bad!
Learning is what's its all about!

Knock Knock
Who's There?
God!
God Who?

Peace

reply to post by Riffrafter


I would have to say Choice=Freewill. yet sometimes you just Have to choose between 2 different paths. Why this is so, I could not say.

Or the trick is being able to see the many choices instead of just 2 you thought you had.

Peace

reply to posts by Riffrafter and infoseeker

infoseekerI would have to say Choice=Freewill. yet sometimes you just Have to choose between 2 different paths. Why this is so, I could not say.
Or the trick is being able to see the many choices instead of just 2 you thought you had.Peace

Freewill equals individual choice (without any interference of a false god overlord); its not just 2 choices or paths (MANY in fact); its the freedom/ability to chose the WRONG one and create Karma for yourself (more lessons to have to learn; this is the catch 22 that can potencially undermine soul growth unless you know exactly what you are doing). For you InfoS, the Buddhist statement 'your many selves' made "live in the the NOW" is perfectly in compliance regarding undesirable nasty collections of Karma. None of this would be necessary if we would take the time to understand the truth about ourselves; who we actually are. the deal was this: You want to re-encarnate on earth? Alright, stand over in this line if you have had 500 lifetimes already, it is appoximately 150 years you will be waiting for your next body). If you are a newbie first timer, stand in this line and it will be instant; however, you may only incarnate for a few months, as SIDS baby, or you may be a baby born in Somalia, Uganda with aids or into an environment where starvation is the norm; and have 2 months to live. or/or are born into a physical natural catastophie and loose your life before you ever experienced it OR as a still born child. For some souls living in the higher dimensions its worth just being able to say they were once a human. Anyone that incarnates knows "the rule" beforehand which is this: You think you know who you are and what you are doing when encarnated and will remember where you came from; BUT your memory of your past in those realms will be swiped and you have to re-learn/completely REMEMBER who you were before you decided to become human. NOT EASY and rarely accomplished because there is no textbook (not even the bible/Koran or a visable god available to you teach/tell you this information. ITS TOP SECRET.

Riffrafter
reply to post by vethumanbeing

There is a difference with this paradigm though; the introduction of "freewill" given to the human.

Riffrafter And yet another tangent/level heard from!
You really have a talent for this vet...So is it freewill? Or just the illusion of freewill?
Not to the degree that we're all puppets on a string, but rather that there are boundaries. We're all free to play within our sandboxes, but going outside of same is prohibited (and your mileage may vary, etc).

Not seeing any illusion here, just the scrambling of "other self inflated higherups" trying to boomerang the process; too late for the puppetmasters. Lucifer had his plan regardless (giving this gift to the human; so it caused his fall, he had a better idea) and all of the name bashing, assignation of character for thousands of years means nothing to me. There are no boundries at all. Every major decision you make pops a parallel lifetime (of yours into existance). The movie "Source Code" is full of good information, dropped upon the masses as "popular entertainment only" (I differ, it as a planned insert). Infinity rules.

Riffraffer And if there are boundaries - who created them? Ourselves? Others? Both? Why? Or are the boundaries themselves an illusion? If so - the same questions apply, although the answers to this one may be easier.
Ultimately it comes down to the question - is there such a thing as an unbounded system(s)?I think there must be, if for no other reason than infinity would be a terrible thing to waste.(Just don't ask yourself where this unbounded system resides)...

-=insert head here=-

The only illusion to what you percieve as boundries are the machinations of those that think they are in power trying to desperately hold onto the manipulations of the human. Its too late the viel is lifted; it only takes a few to recongnise this and then exponencially come together on a website such as this to expose the falseties, broad sweeping motion, major religions, .govs. There are things such as 'systems'. This is one of the finest (its more pliable/PLASTIC); and its inhabitants by mere thought are actually changing it without even knowing it. There was a longterm plan place. Id call it the best well deserved "LONG CON (confidence) SCAM" ever played by the "smarter than average bears" initiated/pulled on a fatuous blowhard demi-god and occured in February 2012.

infoseeker26754
reply to post by WanDash

 

...Thats the tricky part, first you have to Weed out the many voices already there! Most are so high, they tend to override some small one worth Hearing. Most have to do with Ego and It's Mind Games.
...I'm down to 5; I hope! Seems a new one here and there Pop in to say something from time to time. Best to stick finding out Who's doing the Talking and that takes some time. Then it's off redirecting my meaning less question's. Not that every question has no meaning, it the ones you Already have the answer too. ...

So - you 'believe' (not using the term with any derogatory taint - just, to convey the general concept) in "Ego"?
What is your understanding or definition of "Ego".
My understanding, in a nutshell, is - "an individuality/personality sustainer &/or protector".
Not saying I know this to be correct...just...my understanding of the concept.

'...down to 5...' - almost sounds like you've been killing some off, or, at least, sending them away.
Does this mean - you count them 'all' to be undesirable? Or - does it mean, you're whittling them away, incrementally, as you identify which are more or less beneficial...? Or - - - does it mean something entirely different from what I've suggested...?

infoseeker26754 ...Then to hear what the voices do say, right on Key! Most do not tell you do do anything, they just there to show you many different angles to your question. Like The Cat. 26yrs old, dieing and should be put to sleep. Now the cat goes about its day doing the same thing as always; - a foot. It there, just Black as Hell! Eats, plays and sleeps! I've known this cat 13yrs so have a hard time dealing with it myself. ...

Interesting... 13 years is how long I (my family) had a Great Pyrenees... Her last year was growing more and more difficult to watch. I had to deal with the same question... "If it was me... Would I want as many days as possible?" I don't know... I don't know how much pain she was in... She was, though, losing her ability to control herself. She was so beautiful & sweet... How can you say - "Okay - I've decided that your days in this world will end today...?" I could not. My spouse could. I don't know if that was courage, strength or...following the code. In part, I was glad I didn't have to make the decision (wimp), but also don't know that I will ever find a way of reconciling the decision to end another life (while I have ended many in prior days).

infoseeker26754 ...I hope this helps you do see different points of views my voices are having in order to get an idea on how to listen. Voices never make you choose one thing for another, just show you different ways one can see how things are; and sometimes the Why. ...

Thanks for all your honesty.
My experience was such that...I eventually 'shut them down'...but only in the sense that I categorized them all as either (i) fabrications of my own psyche, or (ii) beings intent on my destruction/demise. I figured that...if, indeed, they were telling me the truth (about how bad I was, and that I was doomed without hope)...it wouldn't matter if I listened or noticed their comments...
I, though, have not been able to 'shut down' the physiological phenomena.
...and...in all honesty...don't think I want to.

Thanks again, for your insights.

reply to post by WanDash


No, in the end you need to hear them all out! Each are just your emotions, path life, views/ideas, even your True Self. Once created, they are a part of you in a way; as in the real world. Friends, pals, love ones, and them pesky ones throughout your life blocking you way!

When I say 5, means the ones who actually vote, finding some blend togetter as one and seems to alot better then hearing all talk at once! Some after listening, fade away having said what was needed disappear, blend with another, or say goodby, Thank You!

Could it be nothing more then an voice created during a time of stress, pain, and sorrow? Just might be! Might as well see to it all at least get a voice, share something and lets things go.

Thats why I count them; using my way in working with the issues I've either hid from or pushed back so long ago I've forgotten about them! Read in a book long ago, voices are your children, emotions that once created are your Children.

All they want is to be heard, and Loved! Lets say you have anger, and it came from say Teen Years. If not dealt with, is stays. Years later, for no reason you lose it because of the anger and one finds themselves with Oh No! Instead of dealing with it, it gets puched away again. Comes back even stronger the next time!

Love, Respect and some Caring is all they ever wanted in the first place. Those are the ones you use while your in Auto Pliot, so being set in your ways can have an effect on how you look at Life Itself. Like the juy who is cool; until he drinks! Then all the control went out of the window; Box we use, runs!

Much better to deal with them with an open mind, crazy as it may sound. Yet I seem to actually enjoy them now! Of course the Moons red right now and first time in 47 years to actually see one for myself! Would have never seen it if one did not remind me to look Outside!

Peace

reply to post by vethumanbeing


Or Soul Groups working on the same class Lession togetter. Some sign up early to actually have the child with health problems! Although the choice is made at the start, what I've read. Seems to hold merit.

Like the person you just meet, somehow you feel like you known them like Forever! How could one even say that knowing in this Lifetime you have never seen them before. Or dream of someone, then after some time they actually come into your life later on.

Now we can connect togetter; internet, to get some Soul Work done. Who know, all of us that stay talking are in this togetter! Help some who say abit, help some now or just to remind us that we are not going mad!

So when this is all over and we learn what we need to learn. I'm buying the First round of Soul Beer!

Peace

reply to post by WanDash


Shutting down is where you lose, hide and put things in that box of yours you do not want to deal with, or can't! Its the Leaving them there and not going back is where the problem lies.

Since there Are no actually rules; well maybe, on a good day. Bring one up! Tear into it, spread it out on the table and really see whats there. Instead of seeing whats been created out of your head, see whats been created by all involved! It set the stage, opens up the play and brings it to an end or understanding. Much better then laying low and wishing it would just go away! So far to date, nothing just goes away!

So in a way I'm opening that Box! So your having a bad day, who could give 100% everyday? Even if your best is 27.5% at least its your best! One day you might hit 90%, just as long as its your best and that all one can really even ask.

Or say you have a hole in your Heart and spend many years trying to fill that acking void! Some run and find as many people to fill that void! Did it help or do you have even more people to deal with and forgetting your own? I say, dig into the hole and make it wider!

Them holes are whats left of your Heart without the walls you so place there in the first place. So one can not Feel the Pain, see the sorrow and keep one safe from the world! How else can you send out Love; freely if them darn walls are blocking it! That song was a lie and should be rewritten! So I did.

Let the light shine in! Wrong.

Let the Light shine Out!
Let it, let it
Out!

Open up
Your Heart and
Let it Out!

Frankly. How is another going to see the Light if we all Hold It in? Being you are Light, a Being full of it you know. Hey! Thats what all the voices came up with, wanting me to see the Lie/s we tell ourselves everyday!

Yet, still have the cat issue, hate humans, and dis-like myself some! Looks like It's going to be a 78.3% Day! LOL

Peace

Just remember if its hard now, Do you want to do it again? If so, remember it will be even stronger the next time! can not take the same test over again.

reply to post by infoseeker26754


This is what freaks me out right now. I know I'm not "failing the test", but still...I don't remember my studies.

infoseeker26754
reply to post by veteranhumanbeing

inforseeker Or Soul Groups working on the same class Lession togetter. Some sign up early to actually have the child with health problems! Although the choice is made at the start, what I've read. Seems to hold merit.

This is reason for 150 years of solitude, if you are traveling in a 'soul group' the next available body (within your FAMILY tree) will be available in 2x75 years (average human lifespan). So I may be my own great grandfather/mother born to my own grand daughter/son. Do you follow my reasoning? I could very well be my great mother/father (but thats confined to soul groups traveling in families).

infoseeker Like the person you just meet, somehow you feel like you known them like Forever! How could one even say that knowing in this Lifetime you have never seen them before. Or dream of someone, then after some time they actually come into your life later on.

You probably did, soul groups also travel with other soul groups; and its not happenstance you meet again, its all orchestrated/planned to hash out Karma, even if one is from across the world, its life circumstance will bring the two of you together. Impossible? no because it was all planned before incarnation to suit a specific purpose, generally to solve a problem NOW (aquarian age); (in the past Pieces era) was to create future problems; diabolical but true.

infoseeker Now we can connect togetter; internet, to get some Soul Work done. Who know, all of us that stay talking are in this togetter! Help some who say abit, help some now or just to remind us that we are not going mad!
So when this is all over and we learn what we need to learn. I'm buying the First round of Soul Beer! Peace

You have much knowledge, you impart many ideas that totally resonate with my understanding; very worthwhile. Im not going mad niether are you; its refreshing to see such honesty by all revealed in your thread (I have no doubt you and some others here have met before in another 'revelation think tank' place off planet) how to reveal some of the hidden truths 'school". Soul Beer? Ill buy the Mind Mezcal shots (got to reign in those voices and make them clarify and stop argueing ie. get them drunk and take the advantage).

reply to post by awakendhybrid


See it another way. Karma has many different Ways to teach you, in Life and after Death. Say your going to school and get caught cheating! Surely you do not thingk your gonna get the same Test you were caught cheating on! No, it would be a different test just for you!

Or say one has a friendship going and using tricks and con's, hurt's that person Very Much! Karma come about sending someone to friend you to do the same Back at you, just with more cruelness, pain and lets you know how It Feels!

It is been said that what you send out comes back to you someday. Year/s, months, weeks and some on that Day! If your having a problem wondering if by chance, Your gonna get yours. Stop, rethink and repent!

Skip the repent; saw the blood moon LOL! I have a hard time doing this myself, we all do! Yet to have Fear about it means that you already Know what you did, are doing and can do. Yet that same Fear, we are born with it came from you past life; Karma or say you were broke your past life. So you stole things to survive, cheated and maybe even robbed!

This Life you have money, Yet your still repeating the same thing from your past because of that fear that is no longer here in this life! Until you address that fear, would you know? Actually, Fear is A Blessing! Its a part of yourself you do not accept, want or need so people run, hide and do whatever to avoid it!

I still have my own Fears, deal with them everyday. Now I stop and Ask, where did this come from and why now? At that moment, fear when it arises. was it already there, bleedthrough or it happened just now! By just stopping and asking that question brings the Now in and you see what is really playing at that moment.

Then you can say to yourself, okay. Whats in frount of me this instant is not/is where the Fear began. Your looking at the Cause of Fear instead of the fear itself. For me, I dis-like people, don'y do good in croweds places. yet I have a kick-ass time that night!
Where did the hate, fear, add any Feeling and look deeper into it.

Funny thing is. New World Order, Peace, Slaves, Earth Changes, add them all togetter and like Vet said, "Reset"

I see it that a New Dictionary will be Created and whatever word you use is 100% That word and not 20 different ideas just on One Word! As soon as you have that thought, Blam! Happens!

I'm Repenting Now!

Peace

reply to post by vethumanbeing


Ha! I think I was a cat once, know I've seen Cat World at Least. Evil Thought flowing by; hummmmmm.

Did you know the worst of it all? Here we can actually think of something and with anought Though. It would be Instant Creation! Yet Humans downrate themselves so bad; could not care if god actually showed up!

Yet! You are your own God. See it in your mind, feel it with your Soul, and add some Heart to it. Every Human did this. Peace would have already Been.

Peace

awakendhybrid

Just remember if its hard now, Do you want to do it again? If so, remember it will be even stronger the next time! can not take the same test over again.

reply to post by infoseeker26754

 

This is what freaks me out right now. I know I'm not "failing the test", but still...I don't remember my studies.

The fact you think you may be missing something here (why am I alive and whats the point) is a huge step regarding your eventual total self awareness. Moses had it easy he had a fired up talking bush to advise him.

reply to post by vethumanbeing


And that Stick! That would have been so cool to see a sea actually parting!

All we get is Nukes!


Peace

D/P

infoseeker26754
reply to post by vethumanbeing

inforseeker Ha! I think I was a cat once, know I've seen Cat World at Least. Evil Thought flowing by; hummmmmm. Did you know the worst of it all? Here we can actually think of something and with enough Thought. It would be Instant Creation! Yet Humans downrate themselves so bad; could not care if god actually showed up!

Cat? its possible, and rare because you had to have been a very special good cat soul to wind up standing in line with other souls 'potencial humans
waiting for their bodies. I have only once met a person (a dog groomer) that I knew was its first time around as a human (dog in her last life). Of course we change things by thought, the humans creativity/imagination can change everything good or bad (Im not sitting on that judgement panel). Humans just dont know how special they are because they are not 'LAUDED" as anything of merit; in fact its the opposite and whatever demi-gods are left are still in the business of shackling our natural instincts/insight.

infoseeker Yet! You are your own God. See it in your mind, feel it with your Soul, and add some Heart to it. Every Human did this. Peace would have already Been.Peace

Im no different from anyone else, I may have just intuited the realization before others have. No foul; as that foolish someone has to step up the game and be the one holding the megaphone standing on a soapbox in the towns square.

For some reason, while pondering the 150 year period between lives, I started wondering what happened to a bunch in my generation the last time we were here. Speaking of just my generation, we are all in our 20-30s right now and 200 years ago, well, a LOT happened.

So many of us are just totally freaked out--barely scraping by, some half-educated, some moving back in with their parents, most already in the last stages of a failed relationship...what the heck happened to us? We are acting traumatized! I think some are working hard to pull themselves up out of the mire...I dunno...I probably only say this because I'm IN it and because I'm very sensitive to my time and purpose here on Earth.

Also, sorry I can't remember which of you briefly mentioned Feb. 2012...I was just wondering. Did I miss something? Was this date significant to you personally...or to all of us? That was the month a random web-search about when souls enter a fetus brought me here so I was just curious.

Also (again), I know I'm not responding personally to everyone that has responded to me...just know that all of the responses have given me some thought to keep digging a little deeper. So, Thank You

awakendhybrid
For some reason, while pondering the 150 year period between lives, I started wondering what happened to a bunch in my generation the last time we were here. Speaking of just my generation, we are all in our 20-30s right now and 200 years ago, well, a LOT happened.

It seems like a long time linearly but as a soul 'inwaiting' its an eyeblink because it does not experience time at all. Yes a lot happens now in 5 to 10 year cycles, time is speeding up but say 150 years ago 1000 years ago was nothing felt from generation to generation. There is a natural byproduct of time/culture/civilations/technologies rapid improvement; entropy/statis is removed or becomes a mute point.

awakenedhybrid So many of us are just totally freaked out--barely scraping by, some half-educated, some moving back in with their parents, most already in the last stages of a failed relationship...what the heck happened to us? We are acting traumatized! I think some are working hard to pull themselves up out of the mire...I dunno...I probably only say this because I'm IN it and because I'm very sensitive to my time and purpose here on Earth.

Id never thought about the struggles of our youth reincarnating again into such an accelerated environment when used to the past sludge moving forward say in 700AD or 1000BC, advancement/communication between cultures moving so slow you wouldnt notice "hey someome just invented the wheel 75 years ago".

awakennedhybrid Also, sorry I can't remember which of you briefly mentioned Feb. 2012...I was just wondering. Did I miss something? Was this date significant to you personally...or to all of us? That was the month a random web-search about when souls enter a fetus brought me here so I was just curious.

That would have been me. You missed nothing regarding that occurance but if affected everyone. Significant to me personally because I had a score to settle with a blowhard poser Demi-God. Souls enter the fetus at first drawn breath of oxygen, the cry at birth heard when entering is one of "Now Im really trapped in a physical body what have I done". Its almost never happens that a soul enters an embryo/fetus until birth unless it wants to experience 'horrible confinement'.

awakennedhybrid Also (again), I know I'm not responding personally to everyone that has responded to me...just know that all of the responses have given me some thought to keep digging a little deeper. So, Thank You all.

Its all good. Dig some more and have fun with your revelations (its all about you anyway).