For Those Who Insist A Cloud Is Just A Cloud...

Having looked very hard at the OP's original photo I can now state my considered conclusion: It's a cloud.

AngryCymraeg

That's not a cloud angel - that's the phoenix thingy from Battle of the Planets!

No, it's a white wookiee bending over to pick something off the floor. Its butt is up in the air.

reply to post by Puppytoven


This is like a satire of Arken's threads. Are you serious? I can see nothing that resembles what you're seeing. They're clouds. Maybe circle where you see the shape? You look so convinced that this picture is the flaming gun as if it was obvious. No matter how I look at it all I see is clouds, clouds and clouds.

reply to post by Puppytoven

And perhaps that is the problem. I expect people to apply various concepts in interdimensional physics and spirituality when they look at these photos.

Yes that might be a problem,

The readers are using logic when they should be applying 'various concepts in inter-dimensional physics and spirituality' when they look at them.

Stupid us, (the readers of your thread that is) Sorry OP for not using your train of thought, does such a train exist anywhere else other than your head?

That and the common understandiing of natural wind patterns vs deliberate design when it comes determining how to read any particular cloud.

So in other words

Xy - pp + Sr7x9x(16x93)+4z = this common understanding of reading clouds.

Silly us, its all so clear now, we were living in the stone ages until this revelation.

reply to post by Puppytoven


It's not a question of if we believe you or not... We don't accuse you of editing the pics... The problem is we can't see what you're describing, all your pictures look like normal boring clouds.

I just took a picture of the clouds above me right now, do you see any ships? Should I be worried? Let me know.

It would go a long way to back-up the claims raised in these cloud threads... if the OP could provide multiple photos of the same cloud maintaining the same exact shapes.

One photo of a cloud doesn't do anything for the OP's point. However if the OP could show that these shapes stayed constant within the cloud as the cloud traversed his skyline, the OP would have some pretty good evidence worthy of discussion/examination.

reply to post by OatDelphi


Are you saying you also see what the OP is seeing in these cloud pictures? If they did stay that way, you know, like clouds do then I guess we can agree they are indeed regular clouds. Anyone can point me to where there is any resemblance of an animal in these pictures?

reply to post by MrMaybeNot


No I don't see anything except for examples of cumulus, nimbostratus, stratocumulus and cumulonimbus clouds. But the OP claims to see "machinery-looking complex shapes" and "beings IN the clouds".

I'm just pointing out that if these supposed ships and monsters were present long enough to photograph them once, why not continue to photograph them as they transited the sky.

reply to post by OatDelphi


I'm reassured I really tryed to find the supposed 'obvious' animal in there but can't, nothing even close.

cosmikDebris

Puppytoven
I expect people to apply various concepts in interdimensional physics and spirituality when they look at these photos.

i'm sorry but I can't take any of this seriously after that statement. You can't expect that of people when you post a picture of clouds that to everyone else is totally random. I will completely "eat crow" if you can explain in an intelligent way what concepts of interdimensional physics and spirituality apply to that particular photo.

And it doesn't count to answer by telling me that I don't get it - or that anyone who isn't on your level won't understand or some narcissistic statement like that.

edit on 2014-04-05T12:39:00-05:002014000439kSatAmerica/ChicagobSat, 05 Apr 2014 12:39:00 -0500 by cosmikDebris because: (no reason given)

Okay, sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday. I was busy. Here goes:

Lets us start with the Spiritual aspect of this. You have to ask what you personally define life to be. More so, you have to detremine what you decide intelligent life to be. Because it seems to be at the base of this discussion. I believe there are 5 apsects to us and this planet. Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and Mind. The first 4 are all things based on laws in the physical and easy to quantify, but not so with the mind. Yes, we can take readings of neurons and write papers on the mechanics of a brain, but what of our soul? Most of us believe we have one, but why? Faith. Being self-aware isn't enough. Knowing you exist as a person enough. But faith in all of us being connected. To look out at the world and see that there is life of all sorts out there. Obviously, "life" is defined differently to some of us. But the fact is, there is a lot in the world and universe (s) we do not understand. I accept that and one of the best quotes I've ever heard has been "I know that I know nothing." I gives me an open mind. To be frank, I also believe we as a species need to realize this in order to comprehend where we are heading. Because, for whatever reason -- technological advancement or natural disaster or human blunder -- there are a lot of signs of what we know going out the window. Conspiracy Theorists know that. But this doesn't mean we have to be so cynical. Because that's where the world is now. A constant state of cynicism where we assume everyone is lying. Trust me. (:ham We also tend to believe the worst and defensively laugh at or shun faith in us being connected. With each other, the planet, the universe, and who knows what else? This is NOT to say i believe these beings I see are divine. I AM NOT saying that. Though it'd be a lot easier on me if I said I saw angels. I don't know exactly what they are. But I do feel an open mind is key to understanding. But that is true with all things.

I gotta go, but I will answer physical aspects of these beings later.

Continue your snickers.

Puppytoven
reply to post by blupblup

 

Like i said, Believe it or not. It makes no difference to me. No matter what I say you have it in your mind I am either an idiot or disturbed.

Yep.

2nd

Spiro

Puppytoven

Refresh my memory on what you needed answered

Well like I said, if you had hung around in your other thread[s] you wouldn't need me to " refresh " your memory.

In any case, in This Thread you said the following >

I wanted to have the beings in the clouds mimic shapes as a way to communicate. After the first few rounds of basic shape were successful, i decided to make it a symbol as a way to rule out it being dismissed as random coincidence.

Further into the thread you claimed to have made a shape and showed an image of the shape in the clouds from these supposed cloud beings.

Fair enough. Then you said >

If you guys need everything done for you in order to see anything then you've got no right to be so glib.

So I replied with a question seeing as you can summon them to make shapes at will.

So my question is here again, after all you did ask. I quote >

It appears we do. I for one don't have the power to interact with these cloud beings you speak of. Would you mind doing another experiment? Would you ask the cloud beings to make an exact replica of our DNA spirals please?

The question is in bold text. Thanks

Spiro

edit on 6-4-2014 by Spiro because: someone pinched my dictionary

I suppose I could ask them, but I don't know if it would be an exact replica as they do start to blow away before everything is done. Thus far I have kept it simple. And i have used things that are specific to me in order to rule out conincidence.

As far as the experiments go, I have kind of taken a break on them. As it is now, I get followeI when I leave the house (go ahead and laugh, but it's not happening to you), and the neighbors kind of dislike me. I have recently taken up video instead of photo in some cases. i might post, but I'm in enough trouble as it is.

OatDelphi
reply to post by MrMaybeNot

 

No I don't see anything except for examples of cumulus, nimbostratus, stratocumulus and cumulonimbus clouds. But the OP claims to see "machinery-looking complex shapes" and "beings IN the clouds".

I'm just pointing out that if these supposed ships and monsters were present long enough to photograph them once, why not continue to photograph them as they transited the sky.

Transited how exactly? All the photos I have taken are as they go across the skyline. And they aren't a fan of having their picture taken. I experience a lot of "negative reinforcement" of varying degrees because of this. But I haven't been able to say if it's them or gangstalkers. Unless there's too much going on to resist, I try to keep the amount down. And even then i have to do it in doses as the neighbors don't like it.

reply to post by Puppytoven

I suppose I could ask them, but I don't know if it would be an exact replica as they do start to blow away before everything is done

Do you mean like clouds do?

OatDelphi
It would go a long way to back-up the claims raised in these cloud threads... if the OP could provide multiple photos of the same cloud maintaining the same exact shapes.

One photo of a cloud doesn't do anything for the OP's point. However if the OP could show that these shapes stayed constant within the cloud as the cloud traversed his skyline, the OP would have some pretty good evidence worthy of discussion/examination.

edit on 6-4-2014 by OatDelphi because: removed gender specific comments

I thought i had done that when i had posted the first set of photos where I they made the shape I had drawn on paper. Not only was the shape formed, it stood intact for a a little bit. The general response was not favorable. Besides, say I present something deemed worthy of discussion/examination. What then? I have had people threaten me for saying anything, and threaten me for not saying anything. Bullied beyond comprehension by people I don't even know. It's seeming more and more that even if people do believe me, no one wants to actually help me. The amount of aggressive discrediting in this forum alone proves that.

reply to post by Puppytoven

It's seeming more and more that even if people do believe me, no one wants to actually help me. The amount of aggressive discrediting in this forum alone proves that.

A Doctor would probably help you.

Argyll
reply to post by Puppytoven

 

I suppose I could ask them, but I don't know if it would be an exact replica as they do start to blow away before everything is done

Do you mean like clouds do?

Yes, smart guy. Just like if you have a glass of water and it gets tipped pver, the water still spills. Just because something is used in a certain way, doesn't mean it's made out of something different. Smart guy. Manipulating vapor to take shape doesn't change what it's made of or how various states of matter characteristics. That was some razor wit though.

reply to post by Puppytoven


So all these years I thought it was rain, now I come to find out that it's not, its cloud creatures making sissy on me. Gross!

Puppytoven
Transited how exactly?

Transited... as in conveyance or transportation from one place to another. Clouds move, they are not stationary.

All the photos I have taken are as they go across the skyline. ...I thought i had done that when i had posted the first set of photos...

What sets? In each thread you have posted 1 photo, that's it.

Not only was the shape formed, it stood intact for a a little bit.

So let me get this straight... you did have time for more photo's, but "they" aren't big on more than 1 photo and/or your neighbors don't care for you photographing the clouds as well. OK...

Besides, say I present something deemed worthy of discussion/examination. What then?

I don't know that's up to the general public to decide.

:facepalm: did you just turn 19-21 by chance puppy?