Pine-Cone and Third Eye Symbolism

reply to post by UNIT76


Theres an "eye" inside of your brain The one you see your dreams through.

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Also the Pineal Gland is photo receptive, just like your eyes.
Only the Pineal Gland and the Eyes have light sensitivity in the human body.

Thanks
I've heard that before and if you think about it, it makes sense. We can see our dreams so clear, even to the point where it feels and looks so real, and our eyes are closed.

That's used to trip me out as a kid, my mom called it our "dream eye."

It is apparent that several relationships exist between the pineal gland and retina. The similarities in development and morphology have been obvious for many years. A recent resurgence of interest in this field has led to a further understanding of many functional similarities between these two organs. A notable feature of the pineal gland and retina is their common ability to synthesize the indolamine hormone, melatonin. Many investigators suspect that the cyclic rhythm of retinal melatonin synthesis may be related to other cyclic events which normally occur in the retina.

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In many vertebrates, the pineal gland serves as a photoreceptive neuroendocrine organ. Morphological and functional similarities between the pineal and retinal photoreceptor cells indicate their close evolutionary relationship, and hence the comparative studies on the pineal gland and the retina are the keys to deciphering the evolutionary traces of the vertebrate photoreceptive organs.

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reply to post by UNIT76


How did I miss this! They are so similar, mind blowing! Thanks for posting that

Everything seems tied together, the same but different.

reply to post by Jennyfrenzy


Excellent OP!! S&F!
You gave great examples of how it was known that the third eye was seen, and used, by our ancestors. They realized it's importance.
I think the powers that be forgot to share this knowledge with the "common" folk.
I have a small pine cone paper weight sitting right in front of me on my desk. When I look at it, it reminds me of the powers I have within me.

I haven't had my coffee yet... just got up. Maybe I'll write more later, but for now, the coffee pot is calling.

some things caught my eye as i go through this,

I've often wondered if prior to industrialization and all the chemicals we are inundated with on a daily basis, were people more intuitive? Did they have a higher rate of lucid dreaming and OBE?

Technology is basically blanketing what we are capable of.

^encoded in those comments- how technology (materialism) dulls the spirit connection.
dear "system", do you seek to uplift or suppress us? (a condemnation upon the supposed liberator of mankind in the garden of eden)


reply to post by LittleByLittle


hi again, i'm not 100% certain (belief) but this is what i think (have faith in)
this first method is artificial, negative and is hoisted upon us;

1 Amygdala fear overload that can result in crown and third eye becoming active but the other chakras are unchanged and have to be fixed later on since it can make the seeker feel very disconnected from where they are.

that sounds exactly like the mechanism the "system" uses on us, don't you agree? (re: amygdala fear overload; fear porn)

this second method is esoteric (highly unknown, guarded, veiled, hidden from us)
kodasaufa has posted what seems to be a shortcut (skipping straight to the 6th chakra, no offence) i more-or-less agree with what they present, but i would ask that people do not overlook the significance of the first 5 in the series; that is to say- the factory production line begins at step 1, does it not? [drawing in that invisible water-- intent] (step #6 is what a customer/consumer is actually interested in, getting the actual product from the factory outlet, unfortunately the analogy there is 'through a middle man' and 'usually at a slightly higher price' ..i'll leave it at that only to say it is cheaper [and better] to grow ones own vegetables rather than buy them)

2 The root burn (kundalini rise) that flows up the spine that in the end reaches the crown.

^i think of a factory production line process that i'm not familiar with,
as you then go on to say;

Can you if you have the 2nd version have reached the third eye but still not the crown and not have the pressure on top of the a head?

i can only say, i'm not sure? (a factory production line process that i'm not 100% familiar with)
most of what i do is currently still trial and error, i've had results that simply amaze me (haven't we all) but i still don't know *EXACTLY* what i'm doing? (this factory production line process that i'm not familiar with)
it scares me because if i could harness this more completely (realize/real-eyes the method) i would be selfish about it and use it for my own purposes (human nature)
i've never liked having this kind of power over people- there is no real point in getting someone to a destination they don't know they've arrived at (it is manipulation.. kinda like what the "system" is doing to us, getting us all to a point where we don't know why we are here, these stupid vapid lives they issue for us, this stupid vapid lifestyle they plan out for us)
what they are doing is having us relate mainly to the physical world (we just call it "materialism")
(so)

And am I right in that 1 is an en-light-ment or is it just a level up to reach it even higher level of ki-flow from 2?

it would seem i have a problem with method #1
it would seem method #2 is possibly the answer we seek
(i find it telling that you played with the word en-light-ment back there, almost as if you yourself have a contention with it?)
(so)

When I think now of it, root burn is more like a signal needed to open the valve of flow from crown. Can that be correct?

Crown
I
I
I
O------- Third Eye
I
I
I
Kundalini rise (root burn)

again, i'm not 100% certain, but it would seem there is something nested in this now; you used the word "signal" and spoke of "opening a valve" and i am likening this to a factory production line process- what we seem to be arriving at here is how this is all an automated process (that flows from this first signal - that starts with how the base chakra pulls in the invisible water - that is analogous to the automation/factory process, the same way one simply has to press a button and begin the whole process.. however, this -does- bring up the issue of first having 'prepped the line') -- in other words; what has this person designed their factory automation process to do in the first place?

sorry i can't be of more use than that but i think you understand all this quite well;

My guess is that they where probably very good at intention->manifestation healing that invokes the natural healing/placebo effect in the body by flowing enormous amount of ki into the body. Think Reiki on steroids.

-that's a pretty good (educated) guess (see how this stuff just starts to intuitively make sense as we go?)
-and one last time; when it comes to the "system" (and note how this word 'system' also harkens back to this factory automation process yet on a much larger planetary scale) i simply ask again; does the system seek to elevate or subject us?
anyway, i hope some of that makes sense..

reply to post by Jennyfrenzy

Theres an "eye" inside of your brain
The one you see your dreams through.

indeed. (but ewwwwwww!!!!) (edit: i'd heard of it before, but that was the first time i'd actually "seen" the eye in the brain like that... yuck) /giggles some more

Also the Pineal Gland is photo receptive, just like your eyes.
Only the Pineal Gland and the Eyes have light sensitivity in the human body.

matthew 6:22
22"The eye is the lamp of the body; so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light. 23"But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light that is in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!

How did I miss this! They are so similar, mind blowing! Thanks for posting that
Everything seems tied together, the same but different.

(the ancients would say; as above, so below)
we are all contributing to one anothers understanding
thanks for starting this topic.. i'm really curious where this will all lead to now?

I've posted these videos many times in similar threads, and I think it fits well for this one too, in case anyone missed it.

reply to post by sled735


in regards to sources like that,
a person will have to make the decision for themselves but i find something flawed in it all,
if you can make it through all these "anti NWO presentations" you'll eventually arrive at all this pineal gland stuff, true.
(david wilcock, michael tsarion, etc)
what they all say sounds great; "the governments of the world have been lying to us folks, this is the real deal"

i'd simply ask people to consider how 'the empire' compromises eastern traditions(earlier sources), obfuscates them, then is happy to put the info out with their own dark slant on it (example: the east india company, those vatican pine cones, etc)

the snake sheds its skin, and will put up a scape-goat (remember that tradition?)
yes, some of the governments of the world are going to take a fall- this is what the "new world order" is all about

i'm going to leave this topic alone for a while to see where it goes now ..keep in mind, having access to this knowledge will put them all out of business, you already know that much. something isn't right here. all i'm saying is, cut out the middle man and go directly to the source.

reply to post by UNIT76


Thanks for the answers and what you wrote made sense. Time to play around in the water/ki.

Kings of Leon Radio-active.

reply to post by UNIT76


That is really fascinating. I had never noticed the similarities between the scarab beetle and the brain.

If that is indeed what is being represented by the scarab beetle image, I wonder if the headdresses worn by Isis and Rah (and perhaps a few other) Egyptian gods and goddesses were also pointing towards or representing the pineal gland.




The pineal gland seems to be located in the center of the wings on all images.



The brain cell and universe images always blow my mind. It really makes me feel so insignificant! Also makes me question whether maybe we are just tiny little organisms living inside a much, MUCH bigger creature.

There are Egyptian scrolls which describe the first documented brain surgery so thats why they knew its shape and location.

reply to post by sled735


Thanks for posting the videos, Sled I'm going to watch them tonight, want right now but the sound on my phone is broken. I've seen a quick presentation from him before. He was talking about the silver cord, it was pretty darn interesting. Can't wait to check these out.

Awesome post will have to get back to this and really digest it all.

One of my favorite topics

reply to post by jacktorrance



to reiterate previous comments;
remember, this is where zechariah sitchin & pals were trying to take us
some of that, and other related material in this link (video presentation)

reply to post by Jennyfrenzy


It's not a pine cone, it's a flower or plant.

Did pine trees even exist in Ancient Egypt?

The "pine" in pine cone bears no semblance to the "pine" in pineal gland. As far as I know even the pronunciation is completely different.

Aside from this, the resemblance that the Eye of Horus bears with the Pineal Gland is remarkable. Perhaps there is something more here.

However, pine cones are a bit far fetched.

Pinecone Ginger
Dragon Fruit
Sugar Apple

There is really not enough evidence to suggest that what is depicted is actually a pine cone. Yes, it's pine shaped, but you're not going to fine pine cones littered across the deserts of ancient Egypt.

Known trees of Ancient Egypt

reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy


Maybe you need to watch the full version of the short version I posted above. This one explains the pine cone and it's symbolical meaning in the ancient texts, stone art, and other places shown throughout history.

He begins the discussion at the 23:50 mark.

reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy

about that flower, you'll spot that pine-cone again here






under the arch study this topic




^arch was clipped in that one (sorry)



when all roads lead to rome, make sure you enter by the narrow gateway

reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy


I have always pronounced it with "pine" but I have friends who pronounce it "pin."

As far as pine cones being littered across ancient egypt, never stated that. I only showed one reference of the Staff of Osiris.



To me, the staff looks like the spine and the pine cone the pineal gland or brain. It's pretty obvious it's a pine cone, so while conifer trees may not be native to Egypt, there is representation of pine cones in this particular example.

The pineal gland is reddish-gray and about the size of a grain of rice (5–8 mm) in humans, located just rostro-dorsal to the superior colliculus and behind and beneath the stria medullaris, between the laterally positioned thalamic bodies. It is part of the epithalamus. It is located in the quadrigeminal cistern and is bathed in the cerebrospinal fluid.[7] The pineal gland is a midline structure (the geometrical center) shaped like a pine cone,[8]

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reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy

Did pine trees even exist in Ancient Egypt?

lebanon was/is close enough in this regard. pretty sure we're not talking about physical things just here?

you're not going to fine pine cones littered across the deserts of ancient Egypt.

i'll bet you didn't expect to find that eye-of-ra embedded in your brain, either?
come on in, the water's fine..

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Siberian cedar" ... "cedar" in texts translated from Russian usually refer to this tree or related pines, not to cedars.

while doing some bible study on cedars i came across this little oddity (highlighted/bold text)

ISAIAH 41:18
18"I will open rivers on the bare heights And springs in the midst of the valleys; I will make the wilderness a pool of water And the dry land fountains of water. 19"I will put the cedar in the wilderness, The acacia and the myrtle and the olive tree; I will place the juniper in the desert Together with the box tree and the cypress, 20That they may see and recognize, And consider and gain insight as well, That the hand of the LORD has done this, And the Holy One of Israel has created it.

reply to post by UNIT76


You mean the lotus flower? Lol.

Aside from ask.com and other sketchy sources, can you find some reputable proof that pine trees existed in ancient Egypt? It would seem a bit out of place, would it not? Seeing a random pine tree in the middle of the desert? The climate would not be very hospitable.

Occam's razor suggests it's not a pine cone. The pine cone has no known spiritual property that links it to ancient cultures and religions. There are pine shaped fruits and flowers. Keep in mind that these are crude iterations and our minds are going to recognize that which is most familiar to us.

For example, let's say pine cones had some kind of healing property; it would then make sense for them to be featured in ancient art.

reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy


yes..
..are you coming in for a swim or not?


good grief, charlie brown,
what's your fascination with literal pine cones?
and if it was --did you miss the stuff about lebanon & cedars back there?
...this is not about some magic pine cone that fell off a tree



if this is doing your head in, wait til you get around to that corn in Rosslyn chapel..

you either know more than you're letting on, or.... not