Climate Change Already Impacting ‘All Continents’ According To New International Report

reply to post by amazing


I invite you to look at the articles that are put out. Depending on who publishes the article, it's either 100% sure that humans caused it, or discrediting the science to the point nothing is reliable. Every bit of what is out there is biased.

You cannot come to a scientific conclusion based on biased data. Some of the people who question this aren't saying it's not happening, just that we need to find a lot more information before anything is written in concrete.

Try this experiment. Type into google the information you seek asked in a way that either promotes AGW or detracts from it.
Then pick the sources that best fit the way you think. That's real science right?

www.google.com... ome&espv=2&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

I am going to laugh when the Earth enters a inter galactic sun warming, man made, cow flatulance induced, global warming CO2 drivin, ocean rising, wild fire inferno ICE AGE.

America and the UK are not the center of the earth, but our economies are paying the price with all of the strict EPA standards, all the while devoloping countries are prospering because they are ignoring the climate for the betterment of their economy.

So let's drive ourselves broke and hungry so we can watch a tree grow while our bellies are empty because the regulations drove out all of the workforce.

Tell me, why doesn't poor countries care so much about the environment? Maybe because they are too worried about surviving that day.

You cannot enjoy the environment if you are starving to death.

There can be regulation, but no over regulation. Which is where we are heading. There has to be balance, not snuff out all polluting industries with no way to replace the decent paying jobs.

The climate is changing, holy sh$@. Our ancestors survived by adapting to and overcoming the climate changes in the past. We will need to do it again to survive in the future. To say we need to FIX it is uttely absurd. Which is what I am seeing more and more people saying. Mother nature will fix herself. Yes we need to cut down on the pollution, but how about China and tge rest of the developing countries follow in our footsteps first. We can regulate ourselves to the point of catastrophic economic collapse, but if everyone else is ignoring it, then tell me, what is the friggin point?

China is nasty, how much global pollution would be refuced if they started regulation themselves, how much would it "slow the human toll"?

In the US we have regulated ourselves economically stagnant, too much more and we are seriously economically screwed. But that gets overlooked by the tree huggers with their wonderful clean environment out look.

We will see how much a clean environment matters when poor starving people are looting and robbing you of your resources. But lets not think about that, were just going to paint some "happy trees".

Fn unbelievable.

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Yeah but almost all Scientists agree on this. We are causing Global Warming. You could do the same thing for evolution. I'm sure evolution is true, but I could find millions of articles including some from 'scientists' discrediting it and disagreeing with it.

Even funnier are those that are crying about what this will do to us and how trying to combat Global Warming will ruin us. Yeah...let's see better gas mileage in our cars, More solar and wind power...less reliance on foreign oil, electric cars, better public transportation, more trees, less pollution in our air and water, yep...that would just be horrible. LOL

amazing
reply to post by network dude

 

Yeah but almost all Scientists agree on this. We are causing Global Warming. You could do the same thing for evolution. I'm sure evolution is true, but I could find millions of articles including some from 'scientists' discrediting it and disagreeing with it.

Even funnier are those that are crying about what this will do to us and how trying to combat Global Warming will ruin us. Yeah...let's see better gas mileage in our cars, More solar and wind power...less reliance on foreign oil, electric cars, better public transportation, more trees, less pollution in our air and water, yep...that would just be horrible. LOL

edit on 31-3-2014 by amazing because: (no reason given)

It's not just about renewable energy and more trees.

Politicians, governments want to capitalize on Global-Whatever to tax more, spend more, and line their pockets.

There is no altruistic attitude here.

reply to post by amazing


Almost. What a nice word. The universal disclaimer.

Why are there scientists still making climate models? Why are they still drilling ice core samples? Why is NASA still employing people to "study" this? Is it because we have a surplus of funding and need a way to ensure next years $?

I would think somewhere, some oversight might exist.

Or......is it possible that lots of scientist "think" they know, but are trying to "prove" the science?

See, if they are still trying to "prove" it, then it's not as finite as some would want you to think.

there was a ship that went to study the declining sea ice. It got stuck in sea ice. A lot of it. What does that prove? nothing on it's own, but it sure does make you wonder where it all came from..........

the2ofusr1
reply to post by Skymon612

 

Just another foolish document produced by the IPCC with lots of doom porn ...Anyone believing this crap care to answer me this one question ...When did AGW start ?...Peace

Here here !

Global warming is nothing but fear mongering.

Scare the population to 'accept' a bigger role of government in their lives.

beezzer

amazing
reply to post by network dude

 

Yeah but almost all Scientists agree on this. We are causing Global Warming. You could do the same thing for evolution. I'm sure evolution is true, but I could find millions of articles including some from 'scientists' discrediting it and disagreeing with it.

Even funnier are those that are crying about what this will do to us and how trying to combat Global Warming will ruin us. Yeah...let's see better gas mileage in our cars, More solar and wind power...less reliance on foreign oil, electric cars, better public transportation, more trees, less pollution in our air and water, yep...that would just be horrible. LOL

edit on 31-3-2014 by amazing because: (no reason given)

It's not just about renewable energy and more trees.

Politicians, governments want to capitalize on Global-Whatever to tax more, spend more, and line their pockets.

There is no altruistic attitude here.

We know that conservatives do not believe or practice altruism, so they cannot accept that others do.

You guys sit on the side lines and stir up enough doubt and dust to effectively obscure any issue you do not "recognize".

You are honest in your words ( even if it was inadvertent)

"There is no altruistic attitude here"

Yes! True!

and you ensure it is true for everyone, even if they do actually care, you ensure they are chastised or suspected. You make sure altruism is killed every chance you can because it is the enemy of conservative policy. So at least admit that the lack of altruism is exactly what conservatives foster by design.

Meanwhile the true GLOBALISTS with names like Exxon and BP (by definition GLOBALIST operations) are protected by your efforts. Yet the AGW crowd say you are fighting the globalists, you are in fact protecting their coffers.

Wow. so much ignorance on this thread!

So, you guys are saying that you don't believe in scientists. Get your climate data from the bible...that sort of thing?

Global Warming is real and we are causing it. Just about every scientist on Earth agrees on that.

Yet, what you guys will focus on is Carbon Taxes and Al Gore. LOL When it should be focusing on what we should do about it...then we can have a debate about the pro's and con's of carbon tax and whether it benefits citizens or not.

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Funny how you focus on the word "Almost" like that's the big disclaimer. Because if that were the case...Almost every scientist agrees on evolution. Almost every scientist agrees that we went to the moon. Almost every scientist believes the earth is older than 6000 years old. Because there will always be scientists in the special interests pocket and there will always be some wacky guys with diplomas that have contrarian view.

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It's not just about renewable energy and more trees.

I see no common sense in pushing a technology that depends on the climate to work.

After all ' the climate is changing' !

amazing
Wow. so much ignorance on this thread!

So, you guys are saying that you don't believe in scientists. Get your climate data from the bible...that sort of thing?

Global Warming is real and we are causing it. Just about every scientist on Earth agrees on that.

Yeah, but Fox news and the Daily Mail say it's all bunkum, and clearly they are more trustworthy sources than 99.9% of environmental scientists on this planet.

What are you, some sort of commie?

neo96

the2ofusr1
reply to post by Skymon612

 

Just another foolish document produced by the IPCC with lots of doom porn ...Anyone believing this crap care to answer me this one question ...When did AGW start ?...Peace

Here here !

Global warming is nothing but fear mongering.

Scare the population to 'accept' a bigger role of government in their lives.

How about, maybe these scientists...like 97% of them, in the world, are just trying to deny ignorance.

reply to post by spurgeonatorsrevenge

We know that conservatives do not believe or practice altruism,

We also know that if those 'conservatives' were pushing bigger government to 'save the planet'.

Their opposites would be totally against it.

amazing
Global Warming is real and we are causing it. Just about every scientist on Earth agrees on that.

I see. Anthropogenic Global Warming causes global temperatures to drop for over 16 years.

Tell me, what caused global warming between two Ice Ages in the first place? There was no industries back then. What caused temperatures to spike 25 degrees F up, 150,000,000 ago? Was it Mammoth-o-genic Global Warming, caused by mammoths driving cars?

Tell me, who is so eager to blame everything on Mankind? Instead of desperately trying to convince people of some ever-elusive doomsday, shouldn't we stop wasting millions in trying to prove that Earth's global temperature (BTW based on unreliable records made from the ground) could have went up one half-of-degrees, and instead spend these very millions into actually solving hunger issues, poverty, and wildlife?

amazing

neo96

the2ofusr1
reply to post by Skymon612

 

Just another foolish document produced by the IPCC with lots of doom porn ...Anyone believing this crap care to answer me this one question ...When did AGW start ?...Peace

Here here !

Global warming is nothing but fear mongering.

Scare the population to 'accept' a bigger role of government in their lives.

How about, maybe these scientists...like 97% of them, in the world, are just trying to deny ignorance.

Those scientists are doing nothing, but creating a payday for themselves.

The bigger 'global warming' gets the more money they get.

That is denying ignorance.

The bigger global warming gets politicians make more money from lobbyists.

That is also denying ignorance.

neo96
reply to post by spurgeonatorsrevenge

 

We know that conservatives do not believe or practice altruism,

We also know that if those 'conservatives' were pushing bigger government to 'save the planet'.

Their opposites would be totally against it.

edit on 31-3-2014 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

But that's two separate issues. A. Global warming and it's effects. B. What we do about it. You're confusing the two, by trying to say that man made global warming does not exist, therefore we don't need to do anything about it. When you should be listening to actual, real scientific research and data admitting there is a problem and then railing against how we combat that. it's dangerous to deny there is a problem in the first place. I run a business. If I deny I have problems there it can be catastrophic and It won't survive.

swanne

amazing
Global Warming is real and we are causing it. Just about every scientist on Earth agrees on that.

I see. Anthropogenic Global Warming causes global temperatures to drop for over 16 years.

What caused global warming between two Ice Ages? Mammoth-o-genic Global Warming, caused by mammoths driving cars?

So...are you saying that the hundreds of thousands of scientists and researchers around the earth just made a mistake. Like every single one of them?

I wish people would look at the data before automatically thinking it is BS.
What If it isn't? are you willing to bet your grandkids future on it?.

neo96

amazing

neo96

the2ofusr1
reply to post by Skymon612

 

Just another foolish document produced by the IPCC with lots of doom porn ...Anyone believing this crap care to answer me this one question ...When did AGW start ?...Peace

Here here !

Global warming is nothing but fear mongering.

Scare the population to 'accept' a bigger role of government in their lives.

How about, maybe these scientists...like 97% of them, in the world, are just trying to deny ignorance.

Those scientists are doing nothing, but creating a payday for themselves.

The bigger 'global warming' gets the more money they get.

That is denying ignorance.

The bigger global warming gets politicians make more money from lobbyists.

That is also denying ignorance.

The same can be said of fox news and those 3% of scientists in the pocket of big oil and coal and the auto makers that don't want us to have better gas mileage and the politicians that financially benefit by denying the truth of man made global warming. That is not denying ignorance.

reply to post by amazing


Science makes mistakes all the time. That's why a true scientific never considers a theory as 100% true.

Unfortunately, many scientists have a salary which depends on their political allegiance.

This doesn't mean that these scientists are wrong. It means that we just can't know if they are, since it's all about politics in the end of the day.