Joe Brandt's Earthquake Dream - Your thoughts and opinions? Is it likely? Is it coming or not?

reply to post by Dianec


Oh yes there is no doubt about the damage. I am 57 I remember the news coverage and the destruction that occurred. I'm not trying to downplay that at all. Gosh that would be total ignorance on my part. But that damage happened in spite of it not being a large 9. Quake. I am not saying that a seven wouldn't be devastating. I'm saying that California breaking off and falling into the sea is not possible along the San Andreas. That the big one that will take California out is probably not ever going to happen. There's certainly no history of that unless California used to be bigger and part of it is at the bottom of the Pacific. I'm saying that the alarmist conversation is not warranted. That's all. Am I a bad guy because I won't share the doom porn mentality? If so I really have no place here on ATS.

reply to post by Dianec


I read it somewhere that the fault is not the type to create large quakes. It's a slip fault not a subduction line. I am no expert not by a long shot. I really don't know a lot about it
I just remember seeing that somewhere.
The quake that destroyed San Francisco caused the damage that it did because the city was built on landfill that liquefied when the shaking stirred up the water below. We know this.
According to wiki (citation needed ) the quake in 89 was a 6.9 maybe the limit was as high as 8 for San Andreas.

The other night on Coast to Coast AM they had an opening guest (just for a few minutes) that was a geologist, Jim Berkland, who specializes in earthquakes and served for 20 years in Calif. He said that the Northridge quake was a 8+ or 9 quake but that the authorities had revised it to allow for insurance coverage of the damage. I'm sorry for the lack of links and details but I'm leaving on an overseas trip and have been turning my hours around to avoid jet lag which has left me a bit foggy on details…. If anyone heard the show and can step in with the specifics that would be great! So no, I don't believe 7 is the highest possible quake there….

reply to post by AutumnWitch657


um, well, i think probably at least some of the native american problems and social issues can probably be traced to the mass murder of millions of them by europeans during colonisation, which disrupted their culture and society etc, etc, etc....

but this thread really was started to discuss california quakes not native american indians, so its a little off topic.

i think that if cayce can have a vision or prophecy of the future, so can native americans....in their culture this kind of thing is held in high regard i believe, ....i tend to believe it is possible for some to sense or see the future in dreams or visions, and it does interest me when different groups of people all dream or see the same or similar scenario, to me this gives it more possible credence....

however this is only my opinion, you are entitled to yours....

seems that you may have an issue w native americans though, from reading your post, but don't rly want to get drawn into a discussion on that with you...

reply to post by AutumnWitch657


I wasn't aware this theory was out there - that it may have an upper magnitude limit. I suppose we can't know for sure but they are the experts. It doesn't make it certain but I will take it as a working theory, and thanks for the information. I hear of people saying that the State will break off into the ocean (for eons I've heard this), and this is just ridiculous. Even if a 9.5 hit on that fault that would not happen. It's a long fault.

As far as this guys dream - I think it's interesting because he described things that he was seeing that actually came into being (short skirts, etc). In the 30's - who would have known. He was actually walking around in the city in the dream as if he had time traveled. Very cool actually that he talked about it so we could discuss it now. Most would write it off as a strange dream but he felt it meant something more for some reason. I think it's worth consideration.

Cayce, this guy, and the Bible all describe similar things but I'm not aware if the Hopi or another Native American tribe describing a great quake. I'll have to refresh my memory on those prophecies. If it is limited to those who also read the Bible it could very well be this influenced their visions but with this guy he saw details so definitely weird.

reply to post by Dianec


Well i disagree. My father's a petroleum engineer who knows a lot about geology (don't hate me, you drive cars too...) and he said the san andreas fault could possibly result in part of cali going into the sea....

so anyone who says it can't, show me your credentials - are you a geologist or seismologist? or did you just read that somewhere?

seentoomuch
The other night on Coast to Coast AM they had an opening guest (just for a few minutes) that was a geologist, Jim Berkland, who specializes in earthquakes and served for 20 years in Calif. He said that the Northridge quake was a 8+ or 9 quake but that the authorities had revised it to allow for insurance coverage of the damage. I'm sorry for the lack of links and details but I'm leaving on an overseas trip and have been turning my hours around to avoid jet lag which has left me a bit foggy on details…. If anyone heard the show and can step in with the specifics that would be great! So no, I don't believe 7 is the highest possible quake there….

edit on 3/30/2014 by seentoomuch because: (no reason given)

I have been saying here in this site over and over and over and over that they do this all the time. They regularly downgrade the magnitudes of quakes by HUGE levels. I keep trying to explain this to people here and unfortunately most people refuse to listen to it, and then you have an onslaught of what I believe are government shill posters here.......

and they immediately start attacking you when you start trying to point this out to people. Thank god someone like Berkland then said that. I've been trying to explain that to people here for a very long time. They actually will even turn down the intensity on the machines so that they don't resister the quakes as high as they really are. So that if someone actually was to really investigate it, they won't be able to prove it.

They can just say, "oh we made a mistake, we had the machines turned down". I brought that up just a few days ago here in an earthquake thread, and I was immediately attacked and got some posts deleted immediately.

rapunzel222
reply to post by Dianec

 

Well i disagree. My father's a petroleum engineer who knows a lot about geology (don't hate me, you drive cars too...) and he said the san andreas fault could possibly result in part of cali going into the sea....

so anyone who says it can't, show me your credentials - are you a geologist or seismologist? or did you just read that somewhere?

He's right. It most certainly can. The other stuff is just nonsense BS. San Andreas and New Madrid are both practically totally safe and nothing at all to worry about. Look the other way, go back to your daily routine, all is well.

They don't want to create a panic, and they don't want to cause economic issues. That's the supposed reasoning. And every time these types of topics come up, the paid internet shills flock to the discussions as well. And if the mods here want to delete posts for saying that, it's been proven in both wiki leaks and the Snowden files that it is true the government pays people to do that.

reply to post by Red Cloak


Yeah I've been getting flack re Yellowstone and Cali threads...
Flack always makes me more suspicious....

Concerning big quake: I am in direct contact to Jesus Christ since more than 17 years. He told me that there will be three warning quakes and then 2 big quakes lasting 14 and 8 minutes. The whole world will shake. Concerning timing: it will start about end of April in the year of the 3. World War. (starting in September/October). My latest infos told me that it will be in 2014. The USA will break in the middle.