What They Don't Tell You In The Movies...

Please people this man is clearly not crazy. Why is it everybody always assumes people have mental issues? God damn stop and let people believe in what they want. If you dont agree or what ever say so without saying everybody is crazy.

You need help, for sure.
The whole section 'my reality after being diagnosed NOT schizophrenic' is just pure paranoid delusions.
You say you are a night photographer and then say your camera doesn't take good pictures at night.

I need to be blunt.
Stop taking Drugs.
Get a second opinion on your mental health.

Of course there are many weird, paranormal and unknown things, but clouds following, everyone around whispering stuff about your family, total strangers?
Naw, you have serious mental issues and need help now

Obvious paranoia and hallucinations and voices....can I please get the name of the professional that said you did NOT suffer from a schizoid disorder? Someone please get this person some help before this situation takes a bad turn and gets dangerous.
I do not see any type of alien connection and the mention of a sense of raised awareness--open third eye--would lead one to assume that drugs or mental illness may be a cause.

reply to post by stargatetravels


I never said I was a night Photographer. I said I like to take pictures at night. Taking Night Photos usually means long exposures and the Photos I take of these beings at night wont sit still for those.

I need to be blunt
If you feel the need to judge then please make sure you remember what i said and not what you think i meant.
And whether you believe gang stalking or mobbing to be real is irrelevant because it does happen. The link I provided in the original post should give you a point of referrence.. i can provide more information on the subject if you like.
Your arrogance is a serious character flaw that usually stems from a low self-esteem/defense mechanism. You should get help for that. See? i can do it too.

reply to post by Puppytoven

I think you missed my reply because it fell at the end of page 1. I can make out the eye shapes in the cloud pics. I was wondering what, if anything, you see in reflections off of shiny surfaces/objects?

tonyb1968
Obvious paranoia and hallucinations and voices....can I please get the name of the professional that said you did NOT suffer from a schizoid disorder? Someone please get this person some help before this situation takes a bad turn and gets dangerous.
I do not see any type of alien connection and the mention of a sense of raised awareness--open third eye--would lead one to assume that drugs or mental illness may be a cause.

And we all know how assumptions without research turn out when it comes to judgement. (sigh) I though I would not have to point everything out in each photo. Okay, I will repost and do the work for you.

But since you are so well-versed in what mental illness is and who is afflicted, then you should know about cognitive bias. And I actually went to 2 doctors and they both said I was not schizo.

If you doubt raised consciousness, then tell me why it doesn't exist? And don't say because it doesn't. And tell me how you are qualified to know the difference?

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So you honestly believe that total strangers are whispering to you, talking about you and following you around?
Rural areas, busy areas, in stores, basically everywhere?
You also believe that clouds are not only following you and looking at you, but are also alien craft?

I'm not perfect and i'm not saying what i'm saying to be a smartass or a judgemental dick, i'm really not.
But seriously, what you're describing isnt real. It is you, your mind, you are mentally ill and unstable and should seek serious professional help.
How many people would have to be in on it, to be paid to follow you, abuse you, at every turn, every area.
It's not plausible.
You have broken from reality.
But fine, i'm just an a-hole who doesn't get it.
Good luck man, I really hope you find some peace.

Puppytoven
And I actually went to 2 doctors and they both said I was not schizo.

And you told both doctors everything from your OP?
Clouds, total strangers whispering personal stuff about you and your family, alien craft, being followed and not left alone, even at 2 am?
The aliens in your house, hiding in the dark with their varied range of eyes?

the infinity mirror is as intense as you are.

hi.

I would like to point something out here... Hopefully I am interpreting this incorrectly...

Puppytoven
Puppy-to-oven .. . ...?

That seems questionable in itself.


Here is my question:
Have you told these doctors exactly what you are telling us?
What is it that they diagnosed you with?

Seems the clouds are following me too.

Can we please let the man finish, personally im interested in what he has to say.

reply to post by Puppytoven


To be honest with you (and I say this with experience) stop looking for the other side. You state that you are being tormented, yet you prefer to keep your third eye open.

stargatetravels
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So you honestly believe that total strangers are whispering to you, talking about you and following you around?
Rural areas, busy areas, in stores, basically everywhere?
You also believe that clouds are not only following you and looking at you, but are also alien craft?

I'm not perfect and i'm not saying what i'm saying to be a smartass or a judgemental dick, i'm really not.
But seriously, what you're describing isnt real. It is you, your mind, you are mentally ill and unstable and should seek serious professional help.
How many people would have to be in on it, to be paid to follow you, abuse you, at every turn, every area.
It's not plausible.
You have broken from reality.
But fine, i'm just an a-hole who doesn't get it.
Good luck man, I really hope you find some peace.

I understand how this sounds. Trust me. I do. However, I am my own worst critic. And it doesn't fully make sense to me either. But when things happen and I can only say WTF so many times before I look for answers that firstly involved serious professional help. Various drugs they put me on did nothing but make me a zombie that still saw and heard these things. I have looked for answers in many different ways of thinking. From Religion to Science. Which is how I have realized it has to be a balance of both for people to understand. Different philosphies and religious beliefs aknowledges things in clouds and recognizes them as spirits of the Earth or dieties coming down from the sky offering enlightenment. But only if our minds are willing to be open to things we might not understand. I am not saying i am enlightened and you just don't get it. i am saying that I am still figuring it out, but this IS real. Here are some more photos of my delusion.


Right above my head

Center of Photo

Center of Photo

Center of Photo

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As someone who has experienced similar events, I just want to let you know that you're not alone and you shouldn't be afraid of what might be happening to you.

Without a doubt, all of this can be really hard to prove to most of the people being shut off from the other side of the coin. It's not hard to see from the responses to the pics you have given that many don't want to look past their own eyelids. To me they were very obvious from looking at them for a few seconds to spot what wasn't 'normal' and what you were probably describing.

First off I'd like to ask did you talk to an authentic mental health specialist in both cases? What kind of advice did they give you about dealing with said events?

Second: Have you gone through any lifestyle changes that you'd consider severe leading up to the occurrence? (eating habits, certain ritualistic doings, entheogenic experimentation, moving etc...)

You mentioned 3rd eye, did you resort to trying to focus it or did you just allofasudden start feeling violated?

In my opinion what's happening to you is possible but there are many things that you can probably rule out as being yourself but I haven't walked in your shoes so I cannot say for sure. Having noticed little happenings myself in regards to this phenomenon I will say that you can't let them get you down or have them push you in the direction that they'd like for you to go.

I'm very interested in seeing how this pans out and from hearing more about what has been transpiring. The only real advice I can give you now is I wouldn't put too much faith in any governmental agencies to take you seriously and avoid some like the plague and also to ignore the baiters on ATS. Maybe I'll share some of my stories if I feel so inclined.

misoginger
I would like to point something out here... Hopefully I am interpreting this incorrectly...

Puppytoven
Puppy-to-oven .. . ...?

That seems questionable in itself.


Here is my question:
Have you told these doctors exactly what you are telling us?
What is it that they diagnosed you with?

Seems the clouds are following me too.

Puppytoven was a nickname for a dog I had that was a Saint Bernard.

I have told my shrink everything. To be honest, he believed me because he's had other patients who have not been nuts but have been mobbed. He said that its very hard to prove, if at all.

As far as the clouds are concerned, he says there is something there but there are a lot of possibilities in this world.

My official diagnosis originally was depression that turned into social anxiety which turned into paranoid anxiety due to PTSD. Because thats what it comes down to. Either way, he gives me pills. He also suggested I move if I think I need to and to seek out alternative healing.

The mobbing is here until they decide...whatever it is they decide. From what I've read, these guys are sociopaths so they do it because they like it.

Yeah your perfectly sane.. all this proves is you are mentally ill.

There is absolutely nothing in those pictures.

What exactly are in those pics..I see absolutely nothing and I am sure I am not the only one.

reply to post by Puppytoven


By your ability to seek and reason out what is happening to you.
Together with an obvious concern for self preservation in the words
you use. What I mean by that is the fact that you haven't let these
events drive you from sanity. Speaks volumes to your sanity.

Consider for a moment that what your going thru, would drive a weak mind
over the edge in no time. So my totally unprofessional deductions are, you
aren't one damn bit in need of a psych, or his meds. When they can only
add to the confusion you have got be feeling sometimes. This confusion,
was also obvious in your writing. Which some in this thread wanted to rush
to extreme conclusions. But mixed up, is not crazy.

I'd kick that psych and any and all substances prescribed, or from any where
else if applicable, to the curb. Get into some nutritional eating maybe a good
cleanse. That way, you are solid in what you know is going in is good for body
and mind. Nothing to mess with your mind as far as question marks. Also, why
would aliens come here to act exactly like demons? To mess wih your mind?

Makes more sense to me, that demons are just being demonic, by slowly loosening
your bolts til you come apart and you will. While the whole time, you were
selling the bigger lie of thier agenda for them, telling the world, it was aliens
what did it!

Puppytoven

I have told my shrink everything. To be honest, he believed me because he's had other patients who have not been nuts but have been mobbed. He said that its very hard to prove, if at all.

As far as the clouds are concerned, he says there is something there but there are a lot of possibilities in this world.

My official diagnosis originally was depression that turned into social anxiety which turned into paranoid anxiety due to PTSD. Because thats what it comes down to. Either way, he gives me pills. He also suggested I move if I think I need to and to seek out alternative healing.

The mobbing is here until they decide...whatever it is they decide. From what I've read, these guys are sociopaths so they do it because they like it.

He wants you to keep coming, he wants to help you.
He's not likely to just tell you it is all in your head and risk you thinking he is one of them.
You seem pretty coherent and you are well aware of just how odd it all sounds so hey, as long as you keep seeing the shrink, keep trying to get to the bottom of it all and stay safe, then that's fine.

Good luck with it all

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I'm sorry but your advice not only sucks but it's potentially dangerous.
You're telling someone with paranoid delusions and anxiety and PTSD to stop seeking medical help and stop medication?
And you're telling him that his deluded, non-existent 'aliens' are actually demons.

ATS really should have something in place with threads like these, too many people telling others to stop treatment and medication when they clearly shouldn't.
Eating a healthy, natural diet should be a goal everyone has but the OP should probably sort out his mind too, in fact I would say it's a more pressing issue

reply to post by stargatetravels


I love how people who seem to be fighting tooth and nail
to hold on to thier sanity. Are sent to a psych and given
dope that causes violent rage. Then someone gets hurt
maybe and because of the perscribed fits of rage it's
decided an electro shock labotomy is the only answer.

And I don't remeber giving out any advice.