Mumps outbreak at Ohio State a threat despite vaccinations... Title

thelantern.com...

Rodriguez said those who have received two doses of the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine still have a 10 to 20 percent chance of being infected.

Rodriguez called the group of cases in the outbreak “highly vaccinated,” meaning most of the people had their vaccinations.

“Even within folks that are vaccinated, they are still at risk of illness,” Rodriguez said

thelantern.com...
Mumps outbreak spreads past Ohio State to community, 63 cases reported

The mumps outbreak has spread beyond Ohio State.

Now at 63 cases, the outbreak has been declared “community-wide,” according to releases from Columbus Public Health.

A total of 45 cases are affiliated with OSU. There are 36 OSU students, four OSU staff members, one family member and four people with OSU community links who have the mumps. Eighteen people without OSU links have been diagnosed in the community at large.

Dr. Teresa Long, Columbus Public Health commissioner, said in a released statement that preventative measures are highly recommended.

“I’m up to date on all my vaccinations and I make sure I stay on top of that so that’s, I rely on that to protect me. It is kind of scary though if you got a lot of people who aren’t vaccinated,” said Thomas Tekieli, a fourth-year in biology. “One of the things we learn about in microbiology is a lot of people who don’t have vaccinations, they can kind of decrease something you call crowd immunity, which is if you got a lot of people who are vaccinated, the virus can’t really be in the community too much, but if you got people who aren’t vaccinated, it can travel through them. And even people who are vaccinated, if they get a high dose, they can be affected by it.”

Not an anti vac thread nor a pro vac thread just an interesting development IMO.
The following video though would be considered anti vac and if what he points out is true then.... you decide..

Either the vaccines DON'T work, or viruses are mutating. Either way, the truth IS NOT being told.

Immunity is a person to person thing. Just because you have received two doses of the vaccine doesn't mean that your immunity will remain strong over time. My husband works in a bio-facility, and they have to maintain their immunities there with some of the things they work with on campus. They get tested regularly, and if they don't maintain certain titers, they have to receive booster doses. Some people have to be vaccinated every time while some others don't have to because they have maintained a high enough titer of antibodies in their blood. One notable old gal has escaped needing a certain booster for a very, very long time.

So, most of these people almost certainly got their first shots as kids, and they may or may not have gotten their booster before heading off to college. Then, you're looking at how many years it has been since then. Overall, it may work out to the 10 to 20% this person you have is citing, but individually, the actual immunity maintained may vary.

And that's a personal thing, not a vaccine effectiveness thing. This is why it's important to maintain your boosters. Unless you specifically get tested to see where you antibody levels are, you won't know. This is also why people who get chicken pox later on get shingles - their antibody levels drop to where the virus can affect them again.

nugget1
Either the vaccines DON'T work, or viruses are mutating. Either way, the truth IS NOT being told.

I think the vaccines 'used' to work. The drop-off of incidence rate is simply compelling.

Are the viruses mutating ... or are they being morphed (this is good fodder for ATS)?

I suspect Fukushima. Fuku is the real deal ... and no one will ever be able to firmly place their finger on it as the culprit. Low levels of radiation, causing mutations in the smallest of bugs ... doom porn on steroids!!

Snarl

nugget1
Either the vaccines DON'T work, or viruses are mutating. Either way, the truth IS NOT being told.

I think the vaccines 'used' to work. The drop-off of incidence rate is simply compelling.

Are the viruses mutating ... or are they being morphed (this is good fodder for ATS)?

I suspect Fukushima. Fuku is the real deal ... and no one will ever be able to firmly place their finger on it as the culprit. Low levels of radiation, causing mutations in the smallest of bugs ... doom porn on steroids!!

Hummm maybe Godzilla was a documentary after all !!!

727Sky

Snarl

nugget1
Either the vaccines DON'T work, or viruses are mutating. Either way, the truth IS NOT being told.

I think the vaccines 'used' to work. The drop-off of incidence rate is simply compelling.

Are the viruses mutating ... or are they being morphed (this is good fodder for ATS)?

I suspect Fukushima. Fuku is the real deal ... and no one will ever be able to firmly place their finger on it as the culprit. Low levels of radiation, causing mutations in the smallest of bugs ... doom porn on steroids!!

Hummm maybe Godzilla was a documentary after all !!!

LOL ... I might have to dust off those old movies and see what was in there!!

We've got a mumps outbreak ... an Ebola outbreak ... what do you think will be next?

I'm throwing in with Nugget ... The truth's not being told.

There was an outbreak last month at Fordham in New York. All vaccinated.

Fordham University is suffering from an outbreak of mumps, with 13 suspected cases reported on two campuses.

“The thing is, just to get into Fordham you need to be vaccinated for mumps. So nobody knows if those kids got a bad vaccine or what,” Agostino said.

All of the students who were tentatively diagnosed with mumps had been vaccinated,” the university said in a statement. “Vaccinations do not offer 100 percent protection.”

nypost.com...

Not pro or anti vac either, but considering the poor quality controls in so many facilities...Bad vaccines is very possible.
Remember the fungus that got in a drug a few years ago which seriously injured people? Hope these people don't get anything worse.

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Fungus? I'll have to look that one up. It's weird - all these new diseases we have. The prevalence of autoimmune diseases, fatigue and other unexplained diseases...like a trade off for the ones that kill people faster. I've had all my shots and don't intend to get anymore other than the Tetanus as needed. If those of us who have been vaccinated get the umps we will fight it off or die trying - as there really isn't a choice in the matter.

I think the best way to describe vaccination is 'pseudo-immunity'. It produces part of the immune response that the organism would produce given contact with the wild pathogen, but not all of it. This, plus the fact that it wears of with time, is why you can still get the disease. Another problem with vaccinations is that the point of entry bypasses major immune systems in out bodies - mucous membranes and our gut, and they contain a bunch of chemicals which are very insulting to our systems. The sad thing is we have the knowledge to fight infectious diseases but we use it very seldom.

The use of doses of tens of thousands of milligrams of vitamin C per day may be the most unacknowledged successful research in medicine. High doses were advocated almost immediately after ascorbic acid was isolated. Notable early medical pioneers of high-dose vitamin C therapy are Claus Washington Jungeblut (1898-1976); William J. McCormick (1880-1968); and Frederick R. Klenner (1907-1984). More recently, important work has been published by Hugh D. Riordan (1932-2005) and Robert F. Cathcart III (1932 – 2007). Jungeblut first published on ascorbate as prevention and treatment for polio, in 1935. Also in 1935, Jungeblut showed that vitamin C inactivated diphtheria toxin. By 1937, Jungeblut demonstrated that ascorbate inactivated tetanus toxin. Between 1943 and 1947, Klenner, a specialist in diseases of the chest, cured 41 cases of viral pneumonia with vitamin C. By 1946, McCormick showed how vitamin C prevents and also cures kidney stones; by 1957, how it fights cardiovascular disease. Beginning in the 1960s, Robert F. Cathcart, M.D. used large doses of vitamin C to treat pneumonia, hepatitis, and eventually AIDS. For more three decades, beginning in 1975, Hugh D. Riordan, M.D. and his team have successfully used large doses of intravenous vitamin C against cancer. The medical literature has virtually ignored nearly 75 years of physician reports and laboratory and clinical studies on successful high-dose ascorbate therapy.

See here

You only have about a twenty percent chance of getting mumps if you are not vaccinated. People with an immune system that is working right will fend this off most times. I don't think that the benefits they tote are real. Another money making scam in my book.

reply to post by Dianec


Here, I'll save you the time...

In September 2012, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), in collaboration with state and local health departments and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) , began investigating a multistate outbreak of fungal meningitis and other infections among patients who received contaminated preservative-free MPA steroid injections from the New England Compounding Center in Framingham, Massachusetts.

www.cdc.gov...

reply to post by Maluhia


Thank you. I didn't get any shots in any of those states that year or years close to 2012 thank goodness - I would be fuming if so. I did have a steroid injection for a "trigger finger" and will never do it again. That thing was 365.00! If something like that were to also cause a systematic fungal infection it would be my first and only lawsuit (not a litigious person). Unbelievable. I wonder how many other illnesses have been caused by the mix they put into our inoculations and symptom relieving shots.

nugget1
Either the vaccines DON'T work, or viruses are mutating. Either way, the truth IS NOT being told.

Or, the vaccine, similar to EVERY other medical or natural therapy, isn't 100% effective.
In fact in the field it's around 78% effective.

I don't know what rickymouse is talking about saying you have a 1 in 5 chance of catching it if you're not vaccinated, that's nonsense.
If you're not immune to it i.e. you've not been vaxxed or you haven't had mumps you will more than likely catch it if you're exposed to it. It's extremely contagious
How symptomatic you are with it will probably depend upon the general state of your health. Around 1 in 5 don't experience any symptoms and around 30-40% will develop parotitis (swelling of your salivary glands) as well as a fever.

The thing is that there is quite a long incubation period with mumps, 2-3 weeks so given that the transient population of the college is around 60,000 people there will undoubtedly be many more cases over the next couple of weeks.

My brother got the MMR vaccination in the 70's. Three years later he got the mumps anyways. A couple of years after that, he got the measles.

I've never been vaccinated for anything (my mom lost trust in the vaccines after my brother's failed) and never caught the mumps or measles from my brother when he had them. In fact, I've never even so much as had the chicken pox, even though I've been exposed to them numerous times.

I think some people's immunities must be better than others or something, because it makes no sense otherwise ?

reply to post by 727Sky


According to the vaccine insert for MMRII, the antibodies are detectable in your system for 12-13 years. College age students and adults are advised to take another MMRII before traveling outside the US. College students on spring break are the target audience for this recommendation.

Then you have 70-80% effectiveness, best case. People who get the mumps and recover, and in the US, all healthy people do, will enjoy lifetime immunity. Congrats.

Medical science does not completely understand the human immune system. I hope that goes without saying.

Before you advocate vaccines for yourself and others, read the vaccine package inserts.

link where you can get them all..

Since Dayton beat Ohio State in the NCAA tourney maybe Columbus has just given up.

Is mumps worse now than long ago? I had it as a kid, and it was a nuisance if anything. Measles and chicken pox too, we just ran around with itchy dots on our face.

reply to post by saneguy


Vitamin C is awesome, have you seen the liposomal vitamin C thread?

It's funny that vaccines get credit for what very well could have been vitamin C, it is the ultimate in virus killing.

nugget1
Either the vaccines DON'T work, or viruses are mutating. Either way, the truth IS NOT being told.

Immunity, even natural immunity, is neither 100% nor always life-long.

Aleister
Since Dayton beat Ohio State in the NCAA tourney maybe Columbus has just given up.

Is mumps worse now than long ago? I had it as a kid, and it was a nuisance if anything. Measles and chicken pox too, we just ran around with itchy dots on our face.

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Those diseases are mild in a child (usually) but are much worse and even devastating in adults (college students.)

Has anyone given global dimming a thought on all these new diseases? Less sunlight would mean more fungi? Maybe?