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Russian President Vladimir Putin managed to amass enough troops in Crimea to take it over without bloodshed, yet the US, via NSA spying, didn’t know until it was too late and according to a WSJ piece, quoting top officials, this has the US in a “crisis response mode,” to put assets in place in order to spy on the Russian military’s actions better in the future.
U.S. military satellites spied Russian troops amassing within striking distance of Crimea last month. But intelligence analysts were surprised because they hadn't intercepted any telltale communications where Russian leaders, military commanders or soldiers discussed plans to invade. America's vaunted global surveillance is a vital tool for U.S. intelligence services, especially as an early-warning system and as a way to corroborate other evidence. In Crimea, though, U.S. intelligence officials are concluding that Russian planners might have gotten a jump on the West by evading U.S. eavesdropping.
"Even though there was a warning, we didn't have the information to be able to say exactly what was going to happen," a senior U.S. official says.
The Obama administration is "very nervous," says a person close to the discussions. "This is uncharted territory."
maghun
reply to post by hellobruce
The second source, The Wall Street Journal good enough?
U.S. military satellites spied Russian troops amassing within striking distance of Crimea last month.
And what about the recent leaks? They were confirmed and then ignored?
Estonia's Foreign Ministry says a leaked phone conversation between Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and European Union foreign-policy chief Catherine Ashton is authentic.
Tymoshenko confirmed the authenticity of the conversation on Twitter, while claiming that a section where she is heard to call for the nuclear slaughter of the eight million Russians who remain on Ukrainian territory was edited.
She tweeted “The conversation took place, but the '8 million Russians in Ukraine' piece is an edit. In fact, I said Russians in Ukraine – are Ukrainians. Hello FSB Sorry for the obscene language.”
The Crimea houses Russia's only warm-water port.
Without its Black Sea fleet, and a naval base to accommodate it, Russia would be a further diminished power. Viewed from the Kremlin, the anti-Russian successor to President Yanukovych put at potential risk the treaty giving Russia access to its base in Crimea until 2042. Obviously, such a strategic threat was to be dealt with immediately.
strongfp
reply to post by maghun
Putin is in crisis mode more than anything. He made a bulldog move to gain control of something he never really needed. And now he's facing massive financial ruin by being kicked out of the G8 and having sanctions thrown at him left, right and center. His main source of agriculture (which is Ukraine) no longer wants anything to do with Russia, the only thing he has going for him is China is still his friend and Crimea is in his control. Unless he takes military action, which I doubt will happen, he's shot himself in the foot on this one.
This isn't 200 years ago, this is 2014, nations don't just invade or annex a part of a nation that has potential to be stabilized on their own from them, you suffer consequences beyond military intervention.
maghun
reply to post by strongfp
The Crimea houses Russia's only warm-water port.
Without its Black Sea fleet, and a naval base to accommodate it, Russia would be a further diminished power. Viewed from the Kremlin, the anti-Russian successor to President Yanukovych put at potential risk the treaty giving Russia access to its base in Crimea until 2042. Obviously, such a strategic threat was to be dealt with immediately.
Did you noticed, that the crimean ukrainians voted for joining Russia? I wish invasion of this kind for all invaded people everywhere, and referendum before shooting.edit on 25-3-2014 by maghun because: (no reason given)
strongfp
reply to post by maghun
Putin is in crisis mode more than anything. He made a bulldog move to gain control of something he never really needed. And now he's facing massive financial ruin by being kicked out of the G8 and having sanctions thrown at him left, right and center. His main source of agriculture (which is Ukraine) no longer wants anything to do with Russia, the only thing he has going for him is China is still his friend and Crimea is in his control. Unless he takes military action, which I doubt will happen, he's shot himself in the foot on this one.
This isn't 200 years ago, this is 2014, nations don't just invade or annex a part of a nation that has potential to be stabilized on their own from them, you suffer consequences beyond military intervention.
"You can't bring a baguette to a knife-fight."
elementalgrove
strongfp
reply to post by maghun
Putin is in crisis mode more than anything. He made a bulldog move to gain control of something he never really needed. And now he's facing massive financial ruin by being kicked out of the G8 and having sanctions thrown at him left, right and center. His main source of agriculture (which is Ukraine) no longer wants anything to do with Russia, the only thing he has going for him is China is still his friend and Crimea is in his control. Unless he takes military action, which I doubt will happen, he's shot himself in the foot on this one.
This isn't 200 years ago, this is 2014, nations don't just invade or annex a part of a nation that has potential to be stabilized on their own from them, you suffer consequences beyond military intervention.
I believe that the BRICS with half the world population more than makes up for the G8 nations of debt. Their combined power will bring the west to their knees with no military involvement.
What concerns me is the lunatics that rely upon the petrodollar and what they will do to keep their power. I am from America and those powers have crippled this country and now we wait and see!edit on America/ChicagoTuesdayAmerica/Chicago03America/Chicago331amTuesday6 by elementalgrove because: (no reason given)
AutumnWitch657
elementalgrove
strongfp
reply to post by maghun
Putin is in crisis mode more than anything. He made a bulldog move to gain control of something he never really needed. And now he's facing massive financial ruin by being kicked out of the G8 and having sanctions thrown at him left, right and center. His main source of agriculture (which is Ukraine) no longer wants anything to do with Russia, the only thing he has going for him is China is still his friend and Crimea is in his control. Unless he takes military action, which I doubt will happen, he's shot himself in the foot on this one.
This isn't 200 years ago, this is 2014, nations don't just invade or annex a part of a nation that has potential to be stabilized on their own from them, you suffer consequences beyond military intervention.
I believe that the BRICS with half the world population more than makes up for the G8 nations of debt. Their combined power will bring the west to their knees with no military involvement.
What concerns me is the lunatics that rely upon the petrodollar and what they will do to keep their power. I am from America and those powers have crippled this country and now we wait and see!edit on America/ChicagoTuesdayAmerica/Chicago03America/Chicago331amTuesday6 by elementalgrove because: (no reason given)
BRICS Brazil, Russia, India, China South Africa . Which one of those economies is going to replace G8? And do you really believe that South Africa won't side with Europe if push comes to shove? Or even Brazil?
And if China goes they never get paid back by the US do you think they can afford to write that off?