Anyone watch Survivorman Bigfoot?

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Destinyone
reply to post by DeadSeraph

 

I await footage and proof of Bigfoot then.

If they prove me wrong, I'll b the first to admit I was wrong.

Until then, it's just another reality TV show with a twist, clamoring for TV ratings.

Des

edit on 21-3-2014 by Destinyone because: (no reason given)

^this
Survivorman was "different" when he first came out, (everyone was talking about Bear drinking Capri-suns in the back of a truck in between scenes) but that doesn't mean it's not reality TV, and that doesn't mean that's how the show is maintained now.

please bear is a adrenaline junkie who likes his comforts and parting at night. goes back to the hotel and has steak and lobster with champagne for diner and sleeps in a king size bed.
he is never alone out in the big bad wild, and everything he does is scripted. he always has a med team with him and his camera crew.

les on the other hand, only has a radio and has to wait, if ever he is in real trouble.

big difference.

reply to post by Shepard64

It has not eluded a solid sighting????
it is seen all the time ....

reply to post by hounddoghowlie


Hey now no dissing bear he has a med team because he purposely puts himself in the worst possible situation just to show you how to get out of it. If you read his book you will find he is the total opposite of a lobster steak eating person. However Les's survival show is more realistic.

reply to post by paradiselost333


Sorry let me rephrase it has eluded solid proof and evidence

The issue to really be determined after we use some basic logic, is this. If we allow for the fact new creatures are appearing everyday, and others thought once extinct are being re-discovered as well...it begs the response to only one real question.

If it can exist, does exist, most likely has always existed, is real and not an imagined cryptic...(and of course Im assuming all of that is true)...then where are the remains of those creatures deceased???

Shepard64
What do you all think? Could a Bi pedal ape species live in remote regions of North America? Could it have eluded a solid sighting for all this time?

It's extremely unlikely. They're supposedly very big animals, and they have to eat a lot and poop a lot and range around a lot to do that.

I like the idea of a kind of crossover show, however. I would also like to hear from Bigfoot Hunters to see how many UFOs they've encountered during those late nights alone in the wilderness.

Ive watched Les Stroud for years. I saw the episode where he talks about an encounter in the woods. I tell you this much, the man has taught me more about survival than any other human being on the planet. If I was in a survival situation Les is who I would want with me. As far as this new show " I dont know". Maybe Les decided it's time to get paid. Either way, Les Stroud is the real deal. Bear Grylls would waste away in some of the habitats Les has been in. Not to mention Les Stroud will put things in his mouth that most folks would'nt hold in their hands!! A true survival guide.

reply to post by openyourmind1262


have you seen the things Bear Grylls has eaten?

He thought he saw a Bigfoot but it was the energy he needed to look for more food for more energy to look for more food for more energy.

Shepard64
reply to post by openyourmind1262

 

have you seen the things Bear Grylls has eaten?

I'm not sure which was more vile... The cave spider or the camel spider... But I think I'm going to go with the camel spider.

reply to post by DeadSeraph


And remember if your ever dehydrated and have no water just pick up a steaming pile of elephant dung and squeeze the juices out but make sure it gets all over your face to, that is key.

I hope know one is eating and reading this

Shepard64
And remember if your ever dehydrated and have no water just pick up a steaming pile of elephant dung and squeeze the juices out but make sure it gets all over your face to, that is key.

I think I might just follow the elephants to see where they get their water.

In regard to the show (the bigfoot episode the OP asked about), I have to say I am disappointed. As somebody who believes that there is likely something behind the thousands of anecdotal reports, I still think objectively. A big part of the show is looking at these tree "structures". Les is totally buying into Todd Standing's story that they are made rather than natural.

If you take a second to look around, that particular forest is literally covered with fallen timber. If you look in the background, you will see lots of single trees that have fallen against other trees. All it takes is one of these to be in the right place and with the number of trees that have/are falling in that particular forest, you will get "structures".

Look carefully, and you will see that a large percentage of those trees are standing and dead, just waiting for the right wind gust to topple them. I can't say what caused the forest to be like this, but it looks like old fire damage where the newer trees have caught up with approximately the size of the trees that died. They even zoom in on the rotted bases of the toppled trees showing they have just been toppled in place. There are gobs of onsey-twosey toppled trees, it is just a matter of luck to get a grouping IMO.

As to the broken smaller trees used to "mark territory", who knows, they may have been victims of the thousands of falling trees. They are broken at anywhere from waist high to 10-12 feet up. I wouldn't look at them and jump to "bigfoot did it!".

The noises they heard is about the only thing I give Les credit for being objective about, but so much of the show was focused on these tree structures. Supposedly, the 2nd episode has supposedly got some good stuff, so I will wait for that. I think Les is the kind of guy/situation that would (if they exist) be able to capture good footage, so I like the fact that he has made a specific effort, but may need to do it alone next time.

Anyway, there was nothing groundbreaking in the show and I think he could have done it a lot better without Standing's input.

reply to post by Halfswede


First of all, yeah, of course they're rotten, they've probably been there quite a while. Secondly, I guess you didn't see the one with the tree that was upside down, or the one that had the bottom two feet off the ground? How do you fall and then turn upside down, and how do you fall upwards? They claimed to have found large footprints right next to the place they left apples (which were gone btw) for it (in high enough places so that hopefully nothing else would get it) as well.


I remember watching an episode of Joe Rogan's podcast (at least I think that's where I heard this) a while back, where Joe interviewed Les. Of course Joe being Joe, he had to ask him about this bigfoot experience, and Les tells him the whole story. Then I think Joe said something about Les should do a "REAL" show about finding bigfoot, instead of this bigfoot crap we have on tv now, and Les seemed to like the idea if I recall. So maybe Joe Rogan is partly responsible for this show? lol

Also, Les Stroud is the sh!t btw. I never believed any of those reality tv shows were real, but I've watched every single Survivorman episode, and I'm almost certain he's the only one out there. There are plenty of scenes of him walking away from the camera just to get a cool shot, and a couple times they showed him walking all the way back (some of them were pretty long walks/climbs) too the camera, and he cracks some joke about having to come back to get the camera. He also has quite a lot of night footage of him out there, so it's not like he's pulling a Bear Grills and going to a hotel. Most of the places he goes, there wouldn't be a hotel for hundreds or possibly even a thousand or more miles anyway.

All that being said, they still have no actual footage of bigfoot, so I'm not exactly convinced yet. It's a good thing I watched that episode on youtube when I did, because just as I finished the last part of the video, they were all taken down. Apparently it's part of a series though.

reply to post by JohnnySasaki


I did see the upside down ones. This is actually pretty easy to come across. A rotten tree falls against another that is already toppled, and when it strikes, it snaps below where it hits. The top continues over with the butt now sticking up in the air. The lower half just falls to the ground.

Don't get me wrong, I am not just trying to debunk. That is why I gave credit to the whoops and wood knocks. I just thought all the tree stuff was really stretching when there was clearly acres of toppled trees. Also, I couldn't discern enough from the "prints" to make any judgement. Definitely have to just trust Les on that one as it just doesn't come across enough on film to be verifiable. As to the apples, it could have been raccoons (just saying there is a known possibility).

I am mixed on if bigfoot is real or not.

No one has ever found a winter bigfoot den.
In areas where the temperatures get below -20 i can see no way a bigfoot could survive without dening up some place

And no one has ever got clear game camera photos.
Or security camera photos.

Caught this as Les Stroud is one of the few people qualified to look for Bigfoot who's income is not reliant on perpetuating the myth.

Very interesting how these mysterious trappers seemingly lived in the area for many years without leaving any sign of human interference...according to Les' guide -everything was Bigfoot activity done long in the past ( note the aged trees in the arrangement).

Where did these trappers live/occupy ( those structures are more likely teepees/shelters/animal pelt drying frames/moonshine camo if we acknowledge hunter/gatherer type humans did inhabit the area in the very recent past)?

As others have stated; unless Bigfoot is paranormal it certainly seems to be out of sorts with what we know about large warm blooded animals and I'm not encouraged by Bigfoot allegedly breaking his species wide, near omnipotent, radio silence to call during the night/break branches etc etc.

Looking forward to next one but I could say the same about (Not) Finding Bigfoot for the first 5 episodes as well LOL.

reply to post by Destinyone


If you're interested in survival type stuff I really recommend giving the show a chance. It's quite entertaining and in my opinion honestly portrays what it claims. There's no surreptitious discovery of food and he doesn't perpetually look like he hopped off an LLBean catalog. He goes hungry a lot and often looks like he's quite miserable. Also he seems to have no qualms in showing the negative results of his poor decisions when they occur.

reply to post by Josephus


No doubt Les Stroud knows what he's doing but I would give thr best none aboriginal survival in wilderness award to another Les: Major Les Hiddins of Bush Tucker Man fame

reply to post by Destinyone


Survivor man has no camera crew, just himself.