Owner of Minneapolis restaurant defends Nazi-themed dinner party

dashen
I'm Jewish and I am NOT thrilled with the display. But there is a First Amendment and this is in a private restaurant. So let Nazis be Nazis and enjoy their hateful and angry knockwurst and sauerkraut.

I guess the fact that it was a reenactment, and nothing to do with hatred went high above your head.

To everyone who is all offended by the reenactors: GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!
Do ypou flip out and get all offended and send hate mail to actors who play the roles of German soldiers, Nazis etc on TV shows and movies?
Did you send hate mail to Harrison Ford when he put on a Nazi uniform in both Raiders of the Lost Ark or Last Crusade?

Did you send hate mail to the producers of Shindler's List?
I doubt it.
These are guys who reenact World War 2 and the battles that occurred. I used to be a WW2 reenactor, one of the guys that I did it with effected a Nazi personna, and guess what? He was JEWISH, and his grandfather (or great grandfather, dont remember) was a prisoner in one of the camps. I met him, he still had the tattoo on his arm. He encouraged his grandson to do the Nazi Role, so people dont FORGET what happened, and what many Americans fought and died for.
All you PC crybabies: grow up, pull on your manpants and get over yourselves!!!

Here in the south they reenact the civil war over and over again. I think they keep hoping it'll turn out differently. LOL. But on a similar note there are folks who get very upset when they see a confederate flag flying. They've made a big stink about it on more than one occasion. Seems like the photographer was one sided in his pictography though as there were American and British uniforms in house too.

The conditioning against this topic has worked beyond anyone's wildest expectations.

reply to post by AutumnWitch657

Here in the south they reenact the civil war over and over again. I think they keep hoping it'll turn out differently.

Some of em might, but I think most just want to make sure people dont forget what happened way back then

Here is an old movie from when the civil war veterans met at Gettysburg, Blue and Grey met as friends and brothers

So let me get this straight. A bunch of reenactment actors got together, and had a PERIOD SPECIFIC party, representing the bigger players of the war, on both sides it seems.


I'm sorry, but how is that offensive? Should they have done a crusades party & dressed like the big players of THAT era instead?

wingsfan
The conditioning against this topic has worked beyond anyone's wildest expectations.

Sorry what?
Care to expand on that?
Do you mean that it has been demonized to hell and back?

Taobender
I thought this was America, where people could do what they wanted as long as it doesn't trample on others liberty ?

I may not like what you think or say, but I will defend your right to think or say it.

For your review since I think you may very well misunderstand just what the First Amendment entails:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Congress cannot pass a law prohibiting the free exercise of speech. That is all it says. The intention of the First Amendment is to create a "free market of ideas". Just because an activity is protected under the First Amendment to avoid prohibition of a certain activity, it does not mean that the free exchange of opinions and thoughts (also free speech) is also prohibited. Whereas it is these individuals' right to throw a Nazi dinner party re-enactment, it is also the public's right to speak their minds about it. It's their First Amendment right to throw it and our First Amendment right to state our opinion of it.

Free market principles. Just because you have the right to do something, it doesn't mean that you'll be protected from the freedom of speech of others on what you do. The only protection is should anyone try to make a law against it. We're doing exactly what the First Amendment was intended to do. If one has an opinion that the majority doesn't like, the majority can freely disagree with it in both private and public forums but they cannot prohibit it by law (with some exceptions).

Yusomad

wingsfan
The conditioning against this topic has worked beyond anyone's wildest expectations.

Sorry what?
Care to expand on that?
Do you mean that it has been demonized to hell and back?

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I think that's what he meant. It's gotten so that you can't even talk about Nazis without someone going apes**t.

Yusomad

wingsfan
The conditioning against this topic has worked beyond anyone's wildest expectations.

Sorry what?
Care to expand on that?
Do you mean that it has been demonized to hell and back?

edit on 2014u45201403pm19 by Yusomad because: 3rd line

I'm trying to find the correct quote to put what I said in proper perspective. But demonized to hell and back is the gist of it.

Lichter daraus
Typical, make something big outta nothing. It was a party and there were more than just people dressed as nazis.

Which was conveniently left out of the OP to illicit rage. The OP was unfairly presented.

reply to post by WhiteAlice

Speak away, I just said I didn't care

reply to post by HomerinNC


That was sarcasm friend. Peace.

As there are no thought police in America, WWII themed party for Nazi themed party, shouldn't be a concern as we are free people in the land of liberty.

Abhorrent and illegal are vastly different and never should abhorrent speech/thoughts be illegal.

Derek

reply to post by HomerinNC


I read manpants as man parts. Totally different meaning ooops.

reply to post by AutumnWitch657


ok, my apologies
I'm a yankee living in the South, and in some cases youre right. The town I live in celebrates CIVIL WAR VETERANS DAY, and of course, they focus on those that wore the Confederate Greys. Hell they sing the Confederate Anthem at this so like i said, some folk still think the war is going on LOL

Guess I am fine with it as long as the held true to the tenants of the Nazi ideals... and didn't serve the "gays" or let Jews attend... LOL...

Just Kidding

Easy to get mad when only one part of the story is told... but then we find out that it was WWII themed dinner party and not a Nazi only event. Gotta love the media and close minded, butt hurt individuals to throw black clouds over something that seems not only harmless but well in line with the owners rights.

reply to post by Metallicus


Who cares if they glorify Nazi's or not.. it was a private party. They have the right to do whatever they want. I Applaud these Americans for standing up for their rights and freedoms !

JohnPhoenix
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Who cares if they glorify Nazi's or not.. it was a private party. They have the right to do whatever they want. I Applaud these Americans for standing up for their rights and freedoms !

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A nice reminder for us -

Josh Lyman: Tell me democracy doesn't have a sense of humor. We sit here, we drink this beer out here on the stoop, in violation about 47 city ordinances. I don't know, Toby, it's election night. What do you say about a government that goes out of its way to protect even citizens that try to destroy it?

Toby Ziegler: God bless America.