The Best Flight 370 Scenario So Far - Theory of an actual pilot

roadgravel

Vasa Croe
I keep hearing that the "alright goodnight" is unusual for the signoff on the news. Has any info been released on if the co-pilot who said it has said it before, as in maybe his usual signoff? I don't find it that odd to say if you are switching over to a new region, but I am not a pilot. Is it possible the controller said goodnight and he was just answering? Not sure why this keeps coming up in the news.

Hearing controllers and pilots say 'good night' or 'have a good day' is not unusual, at least not in the states. (from what I hear listening to the radio traffic)

In Asia, they always like to end with a "thank you" even if you didn't do anything. Anyways, maybe it was the way the pilot said it? I imagine authorities wouldn't release info regarding what subtle code they have agreed beforehand in the event of a hijacking or emergency. For all we know, "all right, goddnight" said in a different manner IS the code...which would explain a lot.

Note: What happened to the other plane contacted MH370 and the pilot just heard mumbling. Did anyone pursue that angle? Or was it false?

The Australian PM is announcing just now, that they think they may have found parts of the plane, just as an FYI, not meaning to off topic the thread, but it is important when the PM makes such an announcement.

I now return you back to your thread.

ETA - an Orion ship has been dispatched to the area, along with 3 planes. There is going to be a press conference in a few minutes. It is almost 12:30 am Eastern Daylight Savings Time.

I transcribed the press conference as best I could:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by IQPREREQUISITE

It would make more sense to have a specific word not as commonly used during hand offs. But who knows.

reply to post by xmaddness


If those scenarios were true how do you explain the fact that the ELT has NOT been activated?

reply to post by IQPREREQUISITE


That would be consistent with both hypoxia or wearing an oxygen mask.

reply to post by Staroth


Power to the units was shut down to fight the fire. Or the fire started in the ELT.

Moved to correct thread

Libertygal
The Australian PM is announcing just now, that they think they may have found parts of the plane, just as an FYI, not meaning to off topic the thread, but it is important when the PM makes such an announcement.

I now return you back to your thread.

ETA - an Orion ship has been dispatched to the area, along with 3 planes. There is going to be a press conference in a few minutes. It is almost 12:30 am Eastern Daylight Savings Time.

I transcribed the press conference as best I could:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

edit on 19-3-2014 by Libertygal because: (no reason given)

Its been more than 8 hours since they spotted these pieces.... they still haven't been able to get there and identify them? Also, one of the pieces is said to be over 70 feet in length, just like the ones the Chinese had found last week. I find it kind of odd that 1, they found such a large chunk of the plane, 2 that its taking so very long to get to it and see what it really is. The longer this goes, the longer I feel that we are being lead on a wild goose chase to nowhere. What really happened to that plane???? I still stand by my theory of a hijacking.

reply to post by Cydonia2012


They have to get ships there to positively ID it. Ships are a lot slower.

These Videos Show Just How Hard Searching Is In The Remote Southern Ocean


www.businessinsider.com...

I found an excellent article with some valid points on the topic at hand.

www.zerohedge.com...

I found these points from the comments section highly relevant:

The events read like a checklist specifically for putting an aircraft beyond forensic recovery.


1 Fly just beyond Malaysian airspace
2 Go dark, switch off the transponder and also switch off ACARS
3 Turn back into Malaysian airspace
4 Overfly the nearest port of safety
5 Navigate through various navigational waypoints
6 Plot a course away from landmass, and out over the open ocean
7 Steer around various over horizon RADAR systems including Diego Garcia.
8 Skirt the outer range of Australia’s Jindalee system
9 Stay airborne using every drop of fuel to maximise the recovery distance.

Suggests to me that somebody was deliberately trying to put this plane and whatever was onboard beyond the reach of any rescue and recovery efforts.

Where the aircraft apparently finally splashed down is an area of Ocean that is 2,400km from the nearest search and rescue capability (Perth), the water depth is 10,000ft which is beyond the reach of all but a few ROV's, and the ocean swell this time of year is 20m building to 40m in June / July (winter time). No vessel can overboard any kind of subsea equipment in that kind of sea state. If you wanted to avoid recovery of the aircraft this is the single best location anywhere on the planet.

When are they going to release the cargo manifest?

reply to post by SMOKINGGUN2012


A suicide then, to bring a new kind of terror via aviation hijacking with no chance of closure whatsoever?

Wow...that's scary.

reply to post by IQPREREQUISITE


That's a pretty interesting scenario and very scary. How could a pilot accomplish this? Seems like such an elaborate way to commit suicide. And if he did point the plane in the direction of Perth, than why for a week did the world think he was headed the opposite way?

It was said to be either path. Seems Malaysia and China were north pathers. Didn't China criticize the US for moving it's search south.

To Chris Goodfellow,

Well thought out post. Thank you. But am I missing something here, or has anyone more knowledgable that I come up with a cyber highjacking as a plausible explanation. Is this too far fetched (and frightening) to consider?

reply to post by Alloy

I have a post on the big thread about the alleged proof concept for ACARS-FMS hack. You might start there.

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So while this new discovery near Perth has come up, they seem to have quit reporting anything about the radar data that was given to Malaysia by an un-named country which Malaysia sent to India to do a search with. Has anything else been said about this? It was just yesterday they were announcing this being done and was a big stink because the country who supplied the radar data did not want to be named and they were not going to publicly announce the coordinates either. Then this Perth search comes up and the media completely stopped reporting on the radar data that was provided secretly. What gives?

game over man
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That's a pretty interesting scenario and very scary. How could a pilot accomplish this? Seems like such an elaborate way to commit suicide. And if he did point the plane in the direction of Perth, than why for a week did the world think he was headed the opposite way?

The suicide angle puzzles me. I don't understand it. The account goes something like this: A very experienced pilot is politically active in his home country. He is very upset that his favorite politico, head of the opposition party, gets sentenced to jail on trumped-up charges. So he takes an airplane full of almost 200 Chinese citizens, plus a smattering of other foreign nationals, and intentionally crashes the airplane, killing himself and all aboard, and doesn't tell anyone. The Malaysian government and by extension, the party in power, takes the lead in the investigation, as it is expected to do, and kind of flubs it a bit by bungling and general incompetence, but overall it is an international effort that so far has failed to find the plane. So this doesn't really hurt the ruling party all that much.

This makes no sense to me. There is no "statement," no "Death to America!" as he lights himself on fire, no downside to anyone the pilot ostensibly doesn't like, and all the wrong people are killed. The pilot is a pro who is well-regarded with 18,000 hours experience who is said to love his job and love flying. For him to kill himself under these circumstances does not sound reasonable.

reply to post by Alloy


It can't be done without modification. The crew can override or bypass the computer.

reply to post by roadgravel


You might get in but you won't be able to do much before the crew takes over and then you can't do crap.