Russia and Ukraine at Vernal Equinox: Change and schism-- astrology

Apparently there exists a “peace agreement” between Russia and Ukraine, that is in effect until the 21th March, date of the vernal equinox. In respect of ATS member khnum and his/her thread 2014-15 Blood moons prophets and seers apply within, a series of upcoming ecclipses and ‘blood moons’ coincide with Jewish feast days, the first lunar ecclipse happening during Passover, the next on Feast of Tabernacles then, Rosh Hashanah and so on. While this must seem like a miracle to some, there is a perfectly sound explanation behind it. The Hebrew calendar is directly related to the 18 years ecclipse cycle called the Saros cycle.

However, there are more of these funky alignments which is special to 2014, at vernal equinox when the armistice/peace agreement ends, the Moon will be companied by both Mars and Saturn, two of the planets visible to the eye, passing eachother just North of the Moon. There are quite a few things to be said about this alignment in astrology:

All in all this grouping of planets is believed to involve:

"Weakness of will, a mood or fit of depression, lack of courage. — Illness, separation or death of members of the female sex."

This last aspect is what has made me think about the situation in Ukraine, like the mother-child relation between Russia and Ukraine. According to ‘The message of the stars’ and ‘The combination of stellar influences’ there will be a breakup in this relationship, it doesn’t look all that good.

When Luna passes Mars a day before vernal equinox 2014, she does so in Virgo, and this may indicate a time of quarrel and dispute which fits well. Also symbolic of — the suffering or separated wife, separation from the wife (or mother). In respect to Virgo there is also the element of dictation and orders, like Russia bitching Ukraine around. However there is also the element of ambition and a quick intellect, so it might not be bad at all, but more like how a mother instructs her child, which seems to fit the situation by the Black Sea.

In Saturn’s respect when Luna passes it the day after vernal equinox it reflects possible

“Inhibitions or feelings of inferiority, the desire to overcome difficulties, lack of determination, self-control to the point of torment, soul-conflicts. Illness and separation of women.”

The same female aspect plays in, hinting of a schism or division of some sort. Will Ukraine be divided between a Ukrainian North-West and a Russian South-East? ‘The combination of stellar influences’ gives room for it and it is a possible outcome if we are to believe ‘The message of the stars’:

“Saturn in Libra is exalted and very strong and therefore his good aspects bring out all the fine saturnine qualities and on that account secure for the person public esteem and recognition. The marriage partner is chaste and pure as gold. This position also bring out good health and long life, but when Saturn is afflicted in Libra the marriage partner is either treacherous or removed by an early death. If the person goes to law he is likely to lose, and become the object of public disfavor. He will also be subject to urinary troubles.”

Any way you’d put it, astrologically speaking, vernal equinox 2014 will be a time of change and possible breakup and schism, with the Moon standing right at the border between Virgo and Libra with Saturn and Mars in each hand at vernal equinox.

Anyone care to elaborate?

reply to post by Utnapisjtim


Technically, the Vernal Equinox is 3/20/14, 16:57 UTC. That is 3/20/14, 6:57 PM in Kiev.

BUT, since sunset marks the beginning of the next day of the biblical calendar, 3/21/2014 would be the first day of the year 6122 from the Fall of Adam.

This is only you follow the bible's solar calendar, not the rabbinical luni-solar calendar, of course.

In my opinion, that makes the alignment all the more significant...as if they are planning a war for 2014. I hold the opinion that the 2014-2015 lunar tetrad is a cleaverly crafted conspiracy as it only follows the rabbinical luni-solar calendar rather than the true Biblical solar calendar.

Thanks for the find, I had no idea about the treaty expiring.

Edit:

I would also like to point out that the 1365 days between 12/21/12 and 9/16/16 is bi-sected by 11/4/2014. This is the mid-term elections in USA. If a war is started in 2014, the mid-term elections may prompt major involvement on the part of USA.

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Yes, you're right, there's an error in the op. 21 March is the day after vernal equinox, which is when Saturn passes .5°N of Luna. I am also puzzled as to how a nation can urinate, let alone have 'urinary troubles'. Don't know why I included that part. Must have been half asleep.

Dates for the celestial meetings:

19: Mars 3°N of Luna in Virgo
20: Luna enters into Libra
21: Saturn .5°N of Luna in Libra

Breaking: Crime declares independence. The schism is real.

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Either way, there is a true significance. I will be watching closely.

BELIEVERpriest
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Either way, there is a true significance. I will be watching closely.

Yes, the alignment starts tomorrow by Luna passing Mars, the messenger of war.....

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Do you believe they have selected these dates as a "script" for their astrological significance, or do you think its a supernatural co-incidence?

Im personally leaning toward "garnd conspiracy".

BELIEVERpriest
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Do you believe they have selected these dates as a "script" for their astrological significance, or do you think its a supernatural co-incidence?

Im personally leaning toward "garnd conspiracy".

That's always a thing you have to take into concideration when it comes to prophecies and magic systems of prophecy like astrology. It does seem to be a little too many coincidences for this to be coincidental in my opinion. Does look a bit tailored to fit the message of the stars....

Breaking: First man down. The situation in Crimea has escalated, with Russian troops shooting and killing a Ukrainian officer in Simferopol and wounding another soldier. Thus, the peace agreement has been broken, days before it was supposed to. NATO and the US responds by sending a squadron of F-16 fighter jets to Poland. I don't like this....

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I've been expecting this for some time now. If indeed, the "Master of Puppets" seeks to reduce America to ashes by end of the 13th Katun (on 9/16/2016, as the "Sacred Seal" of the $1 bill states), then we would have to be dragged into a war with a formitable enemy...one that has the capacity to reduce us to ashes.

I say the whole thing is staged for the prospect of a "controlled demolition" of USA.

If this conspiracy does come to fruition, then we shall see if the TRUE Prophecy will come to pass on 9/16/2016, 1:54 pm New York time.

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Please elaborate on the $1 bill and the Maya calendar. I know you have explained it to me before, but give a quick round up if you may

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Sure. Here's the crash course:

The media portrays the Mayan calendar as years of 360 days back-to-back. My research indicateds that the Mayans included periodic intercalary periods to make up the difference of those annual 5.25 day omittions...probably at the end of every 144,000 days.

The last 13 katunes of the Great cycle is a count down to the end. The year 1776 completed the 1st of 13 Katunes--Foundation of Ameruqa (land of the feathered serpent) and 12/21/12 is the end of the 13th Katun, counting 360 days back-to-back.

Therefore, to intercalate the 13 Katunes, multiply 13 counts of 20 year by 5.25 days....13x20x5.25=1,365 days (see Num 3:50). Thus, the completion of the Great Cycle is 9/16/2016.

America was established on the completion of 1st Katun, and therefore will fall at the end of the 13th Katun to make way for the return of Osiris/Nimrod aka, the Anti-christ. This is represented by the "Eye of Horus" hoovering over the 13th Katun. The 13 level pyramid is a representation of the 13 Katunes.

reply to post by BELIEVERpriest


Thanks, but I thought you said you had found the date 9/16/2016 in the seal of the $1 bill. If this is so, please explain.

Some might say there are a few interesting things with the Great Seal of the United States (the reverse one with the pyramid and the all-seeing eye in particular). There are 13 layers of 79 rocks, and 53 of them are unribbed stones (or 26 ribbed ones). The Allseeing Eye is the 80th stone, the capstone. 26 is the atomic number of iron, while 53 is iodine (in 2003 scientists successfully managed to transform Iodine-129 into Iodine-128 using lasers ==> www.modernpowersystems.com...). More interesting, 79 is the atomic number of gold, while the 80th is mercury, both core metals and principles in alchemy. Mercury was by many regarded as the ever infamous Philosopher's Stone, and it was said it could turn the 82nd element lead (or anything) into gold. So is the allseeing eye in the Great Seal supposed to be understood as the Philosopher's Stone? Compare the symbol of the Philosopher's stone with the All-seeing Eye on the reverse side of the Great Seal:

vs.

Like to comment?

When Mars passed over Luna about ten hours ago, the fixed star Spica was just below the Moon. There is a few things to be said about this alignment, and is regarded as one of the most favorable stars of all, see link below for details:

==> www.constellationsofwords.com...

This star, α Virgo, Spica, marked the 12th manzil (Arabic Moon Mansion), Al Simak, The Unarmed.

Influences of the 12th Arabic Moon Mansion Al Simak: Causes marital love, cures the sick, helps sailors but hinders journeys by land.

With Moon transiting here: dig but do not marry or travel. [Robson*, p.72.]

The Hindus knew Spica as Citra, "Bright", their 12th nakshatra (Hindu Moon Mansion), figured as a Lamp, or as a Pearl, with Tvashtar, the Artificer, or Shaper, as its presiding divinity.

Influences of the 12th Hindu Moon Mansion Citra: Ruled by Mars. A soft asterism belonging to the serving caste and favorable for friendship, married love, purchase and making clothes and ornaments, music and auspicious deeds when containing the Moon. Those born on the lunar day will be mathematicians, surgeons, oculists, weavers, writers, singers, manufacturers of perfumes and dealers in jewels and cloth. With Moon here at birth native will be fond of clothes and flowers of many colors and will have beautiful eyes and limbs. Rules water banks and the neck. [Robson*, p.80.]

At ==> kennethjohnsonastrology.com... you can read the following about Spica. Note the references to Virgin Mary and the Christ (also Isis and Horus):

Spica (23 Libra) Spica has always been universally regarded as one of the most positive stars in the sky. In late Egyptian times, the constellation of Virgo was sometimes perceived as the goddess Isis, and Spica was the divine child Horus seated in her lap. Later, Virgo became identified with the Virgin Mary, and Spica with the Christ child. But it is most commonly seen as the sheaf of wheat which Persephone, the goddess of Virgo, holds in her hand. The Hellenistic astrologers saw Spica as a mixture of Mercury and Venus; hence its natives are said to be learned, philosophical, eloquent, creative, clever, artistic, pleasure-loving, practical, high-minded and successful, but sometimes fickle or promiscuous. Anonymous of 379 wrote that Spica, in particular among the Mercury-Venus stars, produces men who act as “hierophants” or high priests as well as philosophers, and that it produces women who become priestesses of Isis, Demeter, or Persephone.[xxi]

The lunar mansion of Chitra is centered on the star Spica, and Hindu tradition asserts that natives of Spica are elegant, charming, charismatic, sensual, seductive, creative, clever, and excellent conversationalists, though with a tendency to be self-centered or shallow.

Sky above 47°N 7°E at Wed 2014 Mar 19 4:00 UTC:
==> YourSky map for March 19

Sky above 47°N 7°E at Fri 2014 Mar 21 4:00 UTC:
==> YourSky map for March 21

According to Reuters on Tuesday 18 March:

(Reuters) - The United States is considering sending troops for war games in the Baltic states bordering Russia, Vice President Joe Biden said on Tuesday in an effort to reassure NATO allies alarmed at the Kremlin's intervention in Ukraine.

Source: www.reuters.com...

Now what?

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Well 9/16/16 isnt actually written anywhere on the seal, but the year 1776 does terminate the first Katun. That means that 1756 initiated the 1st Katun. The year 1756 brought the French and Indian War. Without this war, the 13 colonies would have not solidified into USA by 1776. The Mayan-American connection is also found in Washington DC, where there is a stone mural depicting the Mayan priests greeting the Spaniard while standing before the Mayan Round.

A good book that draws the connection is "Zenith 2016", by Tom Horn, but Horn fails to recognize the fact that the Mayan Countdown extends to 9/16/2016 rather than resetting on 12/21/12.

I dont disagree with the alchemical connection to the seal, after all, these conspirators are alchemists as well. As Albert Pike put it, each symbol has a different meaning in each esoteric circle.

But notice the Kabalistic numerology. 1776=666+1110. Under Nimrod, 1110 represented Babel--the Old World Order, 666 represents the New World Order at his return. Or maybe its the other way around, I forget.

But, 666 and 1110 has the same value as a currency exchage between the Babylonian system and the modern Algebraic system.

Pope Gregory the 13th confirms the 9/16/16 date in his unifying calendar: 12/21/12 being the 355th day of the leap year, and 9/16/2016 being the 260th day of the leap year.

Within Pope Gregory's lifetime, Francis Bacon wrote New Atlantis, which is an eerily similar description of today's USA.

It seems to me that America was designed to Rise and Fall by the 13 Katuns. Thats why all the presidents walk the same path; whether Democrat or Republican, the goal is the same.

BELIEVERpriest
It seems to me that America was designed to Rise and Fall by the 13 Katuns. Thats why all the presidents walk the same path; whether Democrat or Republican, the goal is the same.

I am not sure destruction is what will happen by the end of the 13th Katun. Seeing that the capstone is the 14th level of the pyramid, which is apparently symbolic of ever elusive (or should I say, illusive) Philosopher's Stone, it would also symbolise great change and alchemical concept of transformation. A new Renaissance perhaps, the completion realisation of the US Ordo Novis in a sense. Not nessasarily a bad thing at all. But naturally, with great change comes great challenges, so who knows what they might have planned or what might happen?

BTW: Last night I dreamed about a greyish white triangular flying object. It was rather sizey, and had some kind of propulsion system with lights emitting along openings on it's tail side. Funny thing was, that in my dream I wasn't in any way troubled or even curious, just as if it was a common object like a plane. I just watched as it made a right turn, while I took a giant leap (I do that all the time in my dreams) of about 50 yards, with that tickling butterfly sensation in the tummy region.

BELIEVERpriest
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A good book that draws the connection is "Zenith 2016", by Tom Horn, but Horn fails to recognize the fact that the Mayan Countdown extends to 9/16/2016 rather than resetting on 12/21/12.

Please bear with me here. As far as I understand a Katun is 7200 days or 20 years à 360 days, or 19.713 tropical years. If we start off at 1756 and add 13 Katuns we end up in 2012. How is it that this last Katun will extend to 2016 or the equivalent of 1/5th of a Katun? I don't get it

Utnapisjtim

BELIEVERpriest
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A good book that draws the connection is "Zenith 2016", by Tom Horn, but Horn fails to recognize the fact that the Mayan Countdown extends to 9/16/2016 rather than resetting on 12/21/12.

Please bear with me here. As far as I understand a Katun is 7200 days or 20 years à 360 days, or 19.713 tropical years. If we start off at 1756 and add 13 Katuns we end up in 2012. How is it that this last Katun will extend to 2016 or the equivalent of 1/5th of a Katun? I don't get it

edit on 19-3-2014 by Utnapisjtim because: added 360 part

The mainstream view of the Katun is 20 years of 360 days. I am saying that the accumilated 5.25 days of omittion must be intercalated to truely complete the Great Cycle. Without periodic intercalation, the 13th would have ended on 10/22/1948 or 49. That is only if you realize that the Flood shifted the years from 360 days to 365.25 days.

The triangle is the 14th level of the Pyramid because to the "Illuminati" he is the Messiah. The number 14 is the messianic number. But, I content that this "Philosopher Stone-Messiah" is the false-messiah.

America has done its part in consolidating the nations into power blocks. Theoretically, the fall of USA is a way of passing the tourch to the "Philosopher Stone-Messiah".

Why do you think the Eagle on the Dollar bill favors the image of a Pheonix. From the ashes of America rises the New World Order.

BELIEVERpriest
The mainstream view of the Katun is 20 years of 360 days. I am saying that the accumilated 5.25 days of omittion must be intercalated to truely complete the Great Cycle. Without periodic intercalation, the 13th would have ended on 10/22/1948 or 49. That is only if you realize that the Flood shifted the years from 360 days to 365.25 days.

Ah, I forgot that part. You already said that. Sorry for being a bit slow here

The triangle is the 14th level of the Pyramid because to the "Illuminati" he is the Messiah. The number 14 is the messianic number. But, I content that this "Philosopher Stone-Messiah" is the false-messiah.

Many, if not most of the US founding fathers were freemasons. The capstone is like the ultimate brick, perhaps symbolically not so much of an "Philosopher's Stone-Messiah" as you put it, but a "Philosopher's Stone-Mason"?

America has done its part in consolidating the nations into power blocks. Theoretically, the fall of USA is a way of passing the tourch to the "Philosopher Stone-Messiah".

Why do you think the Eagle on the Dollar bill favors the image of a Pheonix. From the ashes of America rises the New World Order.

I believe the spurious connection between the Great Seal's eagle and Ai Phoenix is related to the North-American Civil War. The reverse of the Seal, the pyramid, shows the ascent into divinity, from the ground up-- or from 1776 to 1976, 2012, 2016, 2076 or some other year, past or future, when Adam's seed reaches divinity, perhaps materialised in the shape of that triangular craft I saw in me dream last night? Mystical Illumination isn't to be confused with the rogue 19th century society founded by Adam Weißhaupt.

Illumination is what the Buddhist refers to as Enlightenment or the Christian refers to as Seeing the Light and what Einstein discribed as the religous experience it is to rise to understanding of fundamental and universal Truth. "Smack!" and you got it!

There is no Antichrist to worry about, that will only disapoint you. Instead there is the promise of the Christ walking in the street like a son of Man, as if he was human, the seed of the other Adam of the NT books of Hebrews and the Apocalypse, the son of Jebus so as to say, he's walking here among us these days, I bet. Blessed "lamb" of the victorious "ram" kindof: Grazing grass for grace with a thing called a "lawn-mower", with Eden's switchblades underneath and powered by the explosive juice you get by squeezing the remains of fossilised dragons and plants.

Metapause: One of my cats actually roars, he did it like right now....

Anyway. We are living in the future. We're in Heaven, Earth is in suspended orbit circling the Sun, together with all the other stars in heaven, fixed or moving (or as with Sirius, something in limbo of those two states).

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In the Bible, Jesus was the rejected Capstone, so the capstone containing the eye has a "messianic" flavor to it. You are correct in stating that the founding Fathers were freemasons, they were also non-christian, so their idea of the Messiah is contrary to the Christian idea of the Messiah.

They have identified their messiah with the eye of Horus: the Osirian trinity of Osiris, Isis, and Horus. This identifies their messianic character as ressurected Osiris. In the Bible, Osiris corresponds with Nimrod, his resurrected name/title is Apollyon.

I use the term "Illuminati" loosely to describe the global ecumenal conspirators. Adam Weischapt's Illuminati was not a rogue sect, but a "puppeteer" of the lower, more ignorant puppet-groups. His group may have dissolved, but they were but one tentacle of the "beast".

Read "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion". This leaked or willfully disclosed document details their plans for Global Domination. While the immediate claim is that Nilus confessed to forging the "Protocols", the truth is, that the words found in the document were copied from a much earlier Rosicrucian document. So, the "Illuminati" disclosed their plans, falsely in the name of Judaism, to make the non-zionist Jewish people the scapegoat of this grand conspiracy.

Where is the proof to validate the "Protocols"? Its in history. False flag events, assassinations, empire building war, corrupt global banking, consolidation of religion, the rise of the United Nations, the rise of the Zionist agenda, the rise of the Zionist State of Israel, the iligitimacy of the US Constitution, etc.

My model dictates that on 9/16/2016, 1:54pm eastern time, all believers in Jesus as Messiah will be removed from earth. This will trigger the fall of USA.

If this event occurs, the within 36 days after 9/16/2016, a hole will open in the ground, and Osiris will rise as Apollyon. This is the Antichrist.

If however, I am full of it, and nothing happens on 9/16/16, then you have no antichrist to fear...at least for the time being.