Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

reply to post by MRuss


Also the two Iranians already had legitimate passports and switched to the fakes in Malaysia...

I've now concluded that they must have been running/hiding from something/someone in Iran and were trying to make it seem their final stop was in Thailand, rather than onto Beijing & finally Europe as they hoped...allegedly!


Peace!

Restricted
Just heard on NBC that the 777 has 10 generators and all of them would have had to fail to kill the transponder. I heard earlier that the transponder can be disabled with a circuit breaker.

Makes one wonder about the onboard server.

Practically every piece of electrical equipment on board is circuit breaker protected. The circuit breaker panels on Boeings are quite impressive (the ones in the cockpit access all equipment so they can be disabled or isolated). Given that, just about any piece of electrical equipment can be disabled by merely pulling the associated breaker.

More updates: terrorism is being downplayed and those that boarded using stolen passports reported as not having known terrorist links. That doesn't mean they weren't though, the 7/7 bombers weren't suspected until after.

Looks like China's naval fleet is being kept busy for a while or an excuse for maneuvering from port into more open sea.

www.theguardian.com...

MH370 search: confusion over theory that Malaysian airliner turned back – live

Interpol: plane’s disappearance probably not terrorist linked

Psychological probe into background of passengers and crew

Photos released of Iranian passengers on stolen passports

18-year-old trying to migrate to Europe, ‘not a terrorist’

Search area extended west on theory the plane turned back

Where and when was the plane last detected?

This is perhaps the most confusing aspect of all. Malaysia Airlines repeatedly said that Subang air traffic control – which covers Kuala Lumpur airport – lost contact with the aircraft at 2.40am, almost two hours after takeoff, but later revised its last known contact to 1.30am.

A relative of a passenger on board the missing plane. Photograph: Imaginechina/Rex
That appeared to make more sense, since its last recorded position was 120 nautical miles off Kota Bharu on the east coast and online flight data showed it at that spot about 40 minutes into the flight, at roughly 1.20am, heading towards Vietnam across the South China Sea. The pilot of another aeroplane closer to Vietnam said that just after 1.30am he relayed a call to MH370 at the request of Vietnamese air traffic control and heard mumbling at the other end but then lost the connection.

A mid-air explosion: The lack of debris could be explained by it falling into Malaysian jungle

A terrorist attack: Director of CIA has said terrorism could not be ruled out

Power failure: Possibly caused by deliberate cutting of power to communication instruments

Electronic warfare: 20 passengers on board were experts in this technology.

Hijacking: Radar data indicates the plane might have made a U-turn.

A pilot error: There is a chance of them in all air mysteries, claim experts

Structural failure: Possibly involving damage sustained by an accident in 2012

Pilot suicide: There were two large jet crashes in the late 1990s caused by this

Aeronautical black hole: Plane is stranded hundreds of miles from current search area

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... errorism-men-revealed-immigrants-19-29.html#ixzz2vhTtoc00

reply to post by MRuss


Forgot to say, you could maybe start a separate discrepancy thread so it doesn't get lost in this one...

It's bound to be done once there is an official, or "official" story I guess!!!


Peace!

Yep. Definately something odd about the photo!

I wonder if it was a printing error? But then guess that something simple like 'printing error' would have been spotted before going to press!

And now the photo has been removed!

If even one member of the ground crew and one member of the flight crew were involved, it was a fairly easy job.

If you're a passenger and the oxygen masks drop, you're going to put it on. Especially if you wake up to it.

So who says it was actually oxygen?

If the co-pilot and even one crew attendant were involved they could pull it off without even needing a gun or bomb.

reply to post by MRuss


Cannot agree more. And, did anyone see the story now, slamming the pilot as a party guy, that had chicks in the cockpit, smoking, hamming it up in photo's, posting on FB? Looks like an attempt to discredit the guy. Admittedly, in one pic, he looks high as a kite, but, so can blinking mid shot cause that effect.

There is an optic forming here, an "official O.S." is forming right before our eyes. If we are bright as we think we are, we can likely outline this before the "O.S." becomes "official".

Remember, this pilot they are now attempting to smear is the one that allegedly had the flighf sim in his house, with thousands of hours of use and real flight experience.

Also, in reading, both the pilot and co-pilot have been referred to as "muslims".

Whether or not this will be part and parcel of the "O.S." remains to be seen.

I have seen so many theories, at this point, any input on what you all think the official optic is going to be would be great! Would love to see if we can call this before the official "official O.S.".


www.theguardian.com...

www.truthrevolt.org...

nypost.com...

www.standard.co.uk...

reply to post by Mikeultra


That's what I have been thinking the whole time. Somebody stole it. Now who?

maybe this is a big stunt for a new season of Lost...

The legs photo shopped are one thing, I find the fact that the bags are the same as more more curious. Like someone else mentioned, what is under that bag that was shopped in? We will never know I suppose.

I myself still think that Freescale has something to do with this. They just released the fact that they now make products that can jam radars etc.. Also of note, there were also passengers from IBM as well which really isnt getting much notice, but that too me seems to go hand in hand.

I wrote all about this way back in the thread. You can see it HERE if you would like to look it over again. The links I added there have also updated a lot more information.

judydawg
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

That's what I have been thinking the whole time. Somebody stole it. Now who?

I hate to be callous, but I guess we'll know that if it hits a target. Sigh....

reply to post by Libertygal


Yeah at first they were acting like the pilots were fine....if they in coherts then it's the truth but they seem desperate to point finger to something...not sure if it's the biased media though pushing a perspective

Interesting.....

MARANG: Eight villagers here lodged police reports today claiming that they had heard a loud noise last Saturday coming from the direction of Pulau Kapas and believed it was linked to the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight on that day.
All of them, from Kampung Pantai Seberang Marang, made the reports at the Marang district police headquarters at about 10.30 am.
One of them, Alias Salleh, 36, said he and seven fellow villagers were seated on a bench about 400 metres from the Marang beach at 1.20 am when they heard the noise, which sounded like the fan of a jet engine.

"The loud and frightening noise came from the north-east of Pulau Kapas and we ran in that direction to find out the cause. We looked around the Rhu Muda beach but did not see anything unusual," said the lorry driver.

Replying to a question, Alias said they lodged the police report so that it would be of help to the authorities who were trying to locate the missing MAS aircraft

www.nst.com.my...

~Lucidity

judydawg
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

That's what I have been thinking the whole time. Somebody stole it. Now who?

I hate to be callous, but I guess we'll know that if it hits a target. Sigh....

Unfortunately I think we will be finding out the target soon.

These guys don't like to wait.

reply to post by MRuss


Well now that the info is floating around maybe they can figure out something..hopefully pieces come together...

Libertygal

And, if this is the obviously photoshopped image you are referring to, it was released by Interpol, only published by Dailymail. Not fair to pick on Dailymail, when they didn't appear to do the photoshopping...

Oddly, once the shopped image was pointed out, Dailymail removed the shopped image, leading people some to believe they were the ones doing the shopping. Why? Were they told by Interpol to remove the image? Makes no sense, as it is widespread by now. So, did Dailymail take one for Interpol? Curiouser and curiouser.

article.wn.com...

Video at link of Interpol with the images.

That video shows a woman holding the printout, but she doesn't look like interpol to me. Here's the video:



Maybe you're right that interpol did the photoshopping, but if so please find better evidence than that video which proves no such thing.

When I go to interpol's site here is the photo they show:

www.interpol.int...

See the first one. I don't see any photoshopping.

~Lucidity
reply to post by Libertygal

 

Someone commented about the legs in the Daily Mail. Ha.

Yep, they commented that they were shopped in the Dailymail comments section. Dailymail pulled the pic, and it now only shows the same image, only waist up.

I find that fascinating! Why would Dailymail pull the pic, giving the optic THEY shopped the image, when, it takes simple browsing to discover that was the image released from Interpol?

Why would Dailymail intentionally allow that blemish to their image, rather than update the article with a statement that this was the image, as released from Interpol? I am just really stuck on this, atm, I guess. A few little oddities like that get in my craw.

I also find it interesting Interpol is International, and wish to remind in case any forgot, that Obama gave Interpol jurisdiction and immunity in the US.

Just a side note I felt should be reminded of in case it was forgotten. Not necessarily noteworthy, at THIS moment, but something to keep back in the reachable memory for a bit.

For example, foreign cops operating in the
US will not be forced to comply with the
provisions of the Freedom of Information
Act. The government has already given
the International Criminal Police
Organization, or INTERPOL, most of
privileges enjoyed by foreign diplomats in
the US.

www.examiner.com...

If anyone doesn't like my source, find another. It happened, it's true, it was just easier to grab this quote here. MSM left it largely untouched, as usual. Executive order, again.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


You are free to google Interpol releases image of imposters. Since it came to light the image was shopped, that is the new image being pushed. Just check dates and times on the articles. They are pushing the new image hot and heavy now, along with the pilot/teen story.

www.timesofisrael.com...

Same image, here is the caption, same as the video I linked:

Pictures of two Iranian men who boarded the now missing
Malaysia Airlines jet MH370 with stolen passports, held up by a
Malaysian policewoman during a press conference, on
Tuesday, March 11, 2014 in Sepang, Malaysia. (photo credit:
AP Photo/Wong Maye-E)
IAirline)

newsinfo.inquirer.net...

Same image, again, here is the caption:

Pictures ofthe two men, a 19-year old Iranian, identified by Malaysian policeas
Pouria Nour Mohammad Mehrdad, left,and the man on the right,his identity still
not released,who boarded the now missing Malaysia Airlines jet MH370 with
stolen passports, isheld up by a Malaysian policewoman during a press
conference, Tuesday, March 11, 2014 in Sepang, Malaysia. One of thetwo men
traveling on a missing Malaysian Airlinesjetliner was an Iranian asylum seeker,
officialssaid Tuesday, as baffled authoritiesexpanded their search for the
Boeing 777 on the oppositesideof thecountry from where it disappeared nearly
four days ago with 239 people on board. AP PHOTO/WONG MAYE

These images/captions range 11plus hours old.
The newer image ranges about 9 hours old.

Libertygal
Cannot agree more. And, did anyone see the story now, slamming the pilot as a party guy, that had chicks in the cockpit, smoking, hamming it up in photo's, posting on FB? Looks like an attempt to discredit the guy. Admittedly, in one pic, he looks high as a kite, but, so can blinking mid shot cause that effect.

Are you saying that it's not possible for pilots to attempt to fly that way?
Last I looked humans are still pilots and their is no limit to the selfish, careless and cowardly behavior that humans can do.
Look no farther than any idiot that has been arrested multiple times for being drunk and driving.

reply to post by CharlieSpeirs


www.freerepublic.com...

On Monday the 10th one uk new broadcaster stated how the two - who had stolen passports- were from Africa,

The above states the same and goes on to explain a bit more about said Mr. Ali.

Talk about confused, I am.