Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

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Mode S features[edit]

Upon interrogation, Mode S transponders transmit information about the aircraft to the SSR system, to TCAS receivers on board aircraft and to the ADS-B SSR system. This information includes the call sign of the aircraft and/or the transponder's permanent ICAO 24-bit address in the form of a hex code.
ICAO 24-bit address[edit]

Mode S equipment on aircraft are assigned a unique ICAO 24-bit address or (informally) Mode-S "hex code" upon national registration and this address becomes a part of the aircraft's Certificate of Registration. Normally, the address is never changed, however, the transponders are reprogrammable and, occasionally, are moved from one aircraft to another (presumably for operational or cost purposes), either by maintenance or by changing the appropriate entry in the aircraft's Flight management system.

There are 16,777,214 (224-2) unique ICAO 24-bit addresses (hex codes) available.[3][4] The ICAO 24-bit address can be represented in three digital formats: hexadecimal, octal, and binary. These addresses are used to provide a unique identity normally allocated to an individual aircraft or registration.

Example of an ICAO 24-bit address:
Hexadecimal: AC82EC
Decimal: 11305708
Octal: 53101354
Binary: 101011001000001011101100 (Note: occasionally, spaces are added for visual clarity, thus 1010 1100 1000 0010 1110 1100)
(These all correlate to the same aircraft registration, N905NA).[5][6]
Issues with Mode S transponders[edit]

One major issue with Mode S transponders is that pilots have frequently been entering the wrong flight identity into their Mode S transponders.[7] In this case, the capabilities of ACAS II and Mode S SSR can be degraded.[8]

These systems and computer software/hardware could be unique to and only available to Boeing and only allowed to be fitted either at Boeing plants or certified Boeing maintenance facilities, that could undertake sutch a large task to basicaly strip a plane down and re-fit so many different parts

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I was just looking at that. As far as data it appears that it is in the transponder and can be changed. I wonder if it also gets sent in the ACARS reports or is used in satellite connections.

Edit:

That implies it is not the planes serial number but a second registered ID.

This is data for the Netherlands.

The provision of air traffic services (ATS) using SSR Mode S, initially in a central area of European airspace, will rely on a unique ICAO 24-bit aircraft address for selective interrogation of individual aircraft. The 24-bit aircraft address is also an essential element of the airborne collision and avoidance system, ACAS II.

The 24-bit address will also be used in ELTs and in SATCOM. It is 'hardwired' into your aircraft transponder and ELT and will stay with your aircraft whilst on the Netherlands register.

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Gotta admit was into it for a while but lost interest after the 1st or 3rd fake Chinese satellite photo & tell me why they think think the plane went south....there is no evidence of it going south or crashing for that matter!

The thing could have been flown to Pakistan been painted and sitting at JFK Airport bye now...hoping for the Aliens but 1 thing is certain if it is Aliens - CNN will have Martin Savage & Pilot Mitch in that simulator come tomorrow trying to fly to Zeta Reticuli.

auroraaus0
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I read something earlier about the cargo load (according to the airline ceo....take it with a grain of salt) and had a bit of a "Aurora needs more coffee" moment.

No hazardous cargo - just mangosteens

Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 was transporting 3-4 tonnes of mangosteens to China, said the airline's group chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya (pic) today.

Speaking at the latest press conference on the missing MAS flight MH370, Ahmad Jauhari added that there was no hazardous cargo on board the aircraft.

Mangosteens were released in a news confeerence by the CEO of Malaysian Airways. You cannot get much more 'official' than that.

I theorized a reasoning on pure tactical basis, and must
undeniable conclude that the plane is stolen and most
likely not somewhere in the Indian Ocean.

Two innocent looking Iranians had bought tickets
to board and steal a plane for their specific purpose.
They don't want to appear suspicious, so they asked for
the cheapest tickets.
Why do I say that?
The tickets were booked for March 1st , but both Iranians
did not board that plane. That in itself is extremely
suspicious.
Let's try to reason why this is suspicious.
Therefore, we ask ourselves a question.
Why did both Iranians not board their flight on March 1st?
speculating
Probably they found out that the tickets were not on the
same plane or their al Qaeda -trained pilot was not in
the cockpit of that flight. Or did they just simply missed
the plane.
So why is this not boarding so suspicious ?
It is highly suspicious that the two Iranians did not
board that March 1st because they already had both bought
the cheapest tickets.
Remember that they both had bought the cheapest tickets
and they both "missed"the plane.
If you buy the cheapest ticket, you would think that the
reason would be that they did not have the money to spend.
Missing a flight on a cheapest rate equals to the loss of
almost all the money that you had paid for these tickets.
If you have little money , then you can not afford missing
the plane, albeit they both did not board.

But no Ali just bought them some new cheapest tickets.
Just if they have more than enough money.
So there is a financial conflict in their behavior and
what they want to appear.
They bought tickets to different destinations. I assume
that they wanted to appear that they have nothing to do
with each other, likely with the purpose to confuse
investigators.

These new tickets that Ali had bought now were good.
Speculating on why.
why? I can imagine that now the aircraft may be large enough
could handle long distance could hold enough kerosene and
now they were both in the same plane and maybe with their
favorite captain.
It could be a coincidence that they both missed their flight,
but tactically it has an aspect of a plan.

The professional invaders now finally boarded that plane the
eighth of March with their false passports. They needed the
false passports to get on a flight to Europe.

While the plane took off, they waited until the plane was
out of the Malaysian tower jurisdiction and still not in the
Vietnam jurisdiction. This way their disappearance would not
be immediately noticed. A very tactical moment so to speak
noting that in this situation every second counts.

They also acted quickly within the hour, because they need
all the fuel to get the plane where they wanted it.
Tactically also a very smart move if you have to go somewhere
far away you act in the beginning of the flight.
Whilst the pilot is in the plot, as we read in the news that
the pilot had programmed the new course and had already turned
some systems off before they say goodbye to the Malaysian
control tower as to not loose any time.
It could be all a coincidence, but from a tactical point of view
it is only genius. And that would be a reason to think that it
actually was a tactical move.

Now we already have a number of possible tactical decisions.
Is that a coincidence?
Here one can rightly ask oneself if all this is quite a
coincidence at all.

Read further next post.

see prevcious post

To steal the plane, all passengers must be disabled.
The passengers are for the terrorists a possible threat.
How they do that?
The pilot puts the oxygen mask for the pilot on, and the two
Iranians back in the cabin grab all the oxygen masks of the
cabin crew and put the aneroid switch in bypass mode.
Thus, the oxygen masks remain undeployed for the passengers.
The aneroid switch ensures that at pressure loss < 14000 feet
of equivalent pressure, the oxygen masks will be automatically
deployed. This switch can be manually bypassed for a landing
above 12000 feet, such as when the plane needs to land in
for example La Paz, Bolivia. That airport is higher than 13,000
feet. At those high airports there is a risk that the oxygen
masks are activated spontaneously.
The pilot opens the pressure valves to depressurize the plane
The pilot can do that because the pilot with this operation can
for example extinguish a fire.

According to the radar, the plane climbed to 45,000 feet. flying
at 45000 feet height is forbidden for passenger air-crafts and
even so it is uncertain whether a plane can climb to this height
with full tanks however the radar data may not be so reliable
when calculating heights. I think that from the radar data can
reliable be deduced that the plane after the last contact with
the tower climbed to the service ceiling. As high as it could.
A passenger at 35,000 feet has 50 seconds before he becomes
unconscious and a passenger on 45000 has 15 seconds.
If this is a tactical movement of terrorists, then that was done
so in order to reduce the pressure in the cabin and to cause a
reduction in temperature to speed up the knock out process.
Presumably if the passengers have no oxygen for a longer time
then there are a good number of people who deceased from cerebral
hypoxia. Some strong people would have survived.

Then we read that the plane dived souring to 23,000 feet.
It seem to have been seen diving at high speed.
If this were a tactical movement, then we can assume that the
pilot after knocking out the passengers was interested in not
killing at least some passengers and stick with some hostages.
That is then the why in "he was souring down".

Then they flew low over Malaysia perhaps within the reach of GSM
towers. We read that phones still seemed to ring, but dead /
unconscious people do not answer their phones.
I read somewhere that the aircraft above Malaysian territory
flew along the mountains. This is a known military pilots tactics
to fly in the mountain radar shadow. The plane will not appear
on the radar for a while.

The plane was supposedly spotted in mainland Malaysia by fishermen
at very low heights. It seems indeed that they wanted to disappear
by flying under the radar field of view to lead future researchers
astray.

From radar data it seems they flew West using existing flight
corridors. This indicates that the plane was indeed steered.
The last radar sighting by the army was close to a small island in
the Strait of Mallaka .

Everything indicates that the aircraft was stolen and that maybe
some living hostages may exist .

From the signals issued from the engines of the aircraft it seems
that the plane appeared to have enough fuel for seven+ hours
of continuous flight.

It is obvious that they only flew international waters, most likely
by a route south of India or maybe they know an unseen corridor
in the radar shade of the Himalayan mountains.
The plane probably landed at an unknown airstrip in Iran or
Afghanistan or even Pakistan. This airstrip must be built by them
because you can't land and hide a plane this size on a known
airstrip. They can camouflage the plane and the airstrip.

Be able to build an airstrip to hold a 777 indicates the financial
power and organization they have.

And for the speculated motif:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

No hazardous cargo - just mangosteens


Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 was transporting 3-4 tonnes of mangosteens to China, said the airline's group chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya (pic) today.

Speaking at the latest press conference on the missing MAS flight MH370, Ahmad Jauhari added that there was no hazardous cargo on board the aircraft.

qmantoo

auroraaus0
reply to post by liteonit6969

 

I read something earlier about the cargo load (according to the airline ceo....take it with a grain of salt) and had a bit of a "Aurora needs more coffee" moment.

No hazardous cargo - just mangosteens

Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 was transporting 3-4 tonnes of mangosteens to China, said the airline's group chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya (pic) today.

Speaking at the latest press conference on the missing MAS flight MH370, Ahmad Jauhari added that there was no hazardous cargo on board the aircraft.

Mangosteens were released in a news confeerence by the CEO of Malaysian Airways. You cannot get much more 'official' than that.

On the IATA site it has a heading "Dangerous Cargo (HAZMAT)" which lists lithium batteries.

Regulations for Commercial Transportation

Hazardous materials (a.k.a dangerous goods) sent using commercial transportation must comply with Hazardous Materials Regulations, 49 CFR Parts 171-179. These regulations apply to those who offer, accept, or carry hazardous materials to, from, within, and across the United States.

FAA

Guess Malaysia has a different definition.

puntito

What engine signals?

Can a link to a source be posted.

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Bravo! puntito
Not really in a position to weigh the merits of your theory...but, wanted to give the only applause available to me, for the effort and thought put into this hypothesis.
Question, though (off the top of my head) - have you ever considered that they might not actually have been Iranian...and, rather, could have been IOU-ranians?
Ever considered that?
Thought not...

Yeah - one Scotch too many, tonight.
Maybe time to call it quits.
Be Well!

Just found something else also suspicious.
at 50:09 in flight, the MH370 states: flight altitude 350
then it is noted that it is unusual that the pilot said at 1:1:14
MH370 remaining in flight altitude 350.
He wanted to provoke an early checkout to obtain 11 more minutes of fuel.
He did not get it though, but that I can think is the only reason why
he would have done that. Maybe the pilot was miscalculating
thinking to be on the edge of the radar because he was flying in
fuel saving mode. (Slower)

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puntito, those 2 guys, their original tickets at the lowest cost would have put them on two different flights, Alle ordered them another set which put them on the same plane.

that was a good post you made.

Found on another site...

So CNN's Richard Quest met and interviewed the co-pilot 2 weeks prior to the plane going missing? If that is true then it is a very strange occurrence.

STAGED! CNN's Richard Quest Met Flight 370 Co-Pilot Before It Vanished!

Now 275 pages.
All this speculation only deflects from the obvious.
This plane was Hijacked and mostly likely by ME's.
Whether it crashed or landed, it was H.
Its either in the north and has landed or in the IO.
If H and directed to go north, it either arrived at its destination or the pilots fooled the H's and steered the
plane in the direction that would guarantee it would run out of fuel before it could it land again. This would have been
done to reduce the number of casualties because the pilots will have been wise enough to know that the plane would be used
for a 9/11 type of attack. Im sure that most pilots now have an understanding amongst themselves of what they should try and do
if H.
If planes crashed far from land then the pilots are heroes!!
If the plane landed then we will find out soon enough when the 2nd half of the plan is executed.
The passengers are either dead from crash or 45000 feet, or are hostages and bargaining chips and most likely dispersed across
numerous locations by now (nice defence weapon)!
Thats my opinion which I have stated numerous times since beginning of this thread and that took less than a page!

Biigs
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Its hard not to "get the feeling" its all going to kick off big time, soon.

I dont think of my self of a doomsayer for WIII tinfoil helmet, but the sheer amount of aggression being shown around the world in the past year, its getting crazy.

Indeed an aggression by one single former global power pretending the world's police force. Don't you agree? just look at Libya a huge mistake.

RP2SticksOfDynamite
Now 275 pages.
All this speculation only deflects from the obvious.
This plane was Hijacked and mostly likely by ME's....

First you say "all this speculation" then you say "This plane was Hijacked"...

Are you aware of the fact that it is speculative to say that it was hijacked?

JRCrowley

RP2SticksOfDynamite
Now 275 pages.
All this speculation only deflects from the obvious.
This plane was Hijacked and mostly likely by ME's....

First you say "all this speculation" then you say "This plane was Hijacked"...

Are you aware of the fact that it is speculative to say that it was hijacked?

I am not saying i speculate. I am saying that it is common sense that this is what happened (It was a H and I am saying this is a fact.) Crash or Landing!!! No speculation there. I do offer 2 outcomes though and I am not sure which is reality but one sure enough is.