God's law; Your sons

WarminIndy
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WarminIndyFor your statement to be true, can you show us evidence of Isaac's part in the feud other than the tiny sliver of land known as Israel? I think you have underestimated the history of the area and bought into the idea that Ishmael and Isaac are at war, no, one side is at war, the other side is being defensive. Then you fall onto the Palestinian problem, but can you show me evidence of Isaac troubling the sons of Ishmael anywhere else? Ishmael is disturbing people everywhere.

Your missing the obvious; even as Palestine and Isreal attempt to solve one bitter land dispute (and STILL IS UNRESOLVED); that is just a focal point of attention because Solomans temple was supposedly built on Islamic sacred ground (therefor the claim) the Temple mount will constantly be disputed. Mecca is the birthplace of Islam yet cannot let this idea go. Neither should be at odds with each other not in this day and age of superior law; negotiation tactics, appelate court systems. Some say the real battle is over a 'portal' to the higher dimensions that exists smack dab in the center of most attention. I cant think of two brothers from ancient past that are still battling it out here in the third dimension; and what is it the conflict born of: RELIGIOUS BIAS, and CULTURAL HATRED and PROPERTY DISPUTES. Its not about that sliver of land, its about the temple mount location in Jeruselem; and the potencial for another world war; caused by a paradigm/architype that refuses to go away, that of strife; suffering and the worst "PETTY BICKERING" between major religions that should grow up (know better).

vethumanbeing
WarminIndy
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WarminIndyFor your statement to be true, can you show us evidence of Isaac's part in the feud other than the tiny sliver of land known as Israel? I think you have underestimated the history of the area and bought into the idea that Ishmael and Isaac are at war, no, one side is at war, the other side is being defensive. Then you fall onto the Palestinian problem, but can you show me evidence of Isaac troubling the sons of Ishmael anywhere else? Ishmael is disturbing people everywhere.

Your missing the obvious; even as Palestine and Isreal attempt to solve one bitter land dispute (and STILL IS UNRESOLVED); that is just a focal point of attention because Solomans temple was supposedly built on Islamic sacred ground (therefor the claim) the Temple mount will constantly be disputed. Mecca is the birthplace of Islam yet cannot let this idea go. Neither should be at odds with each other not in this day and age of superior law; negotiation tactics, appelate court systems. Some say the real battle is over a 'portal' to the higher dimensions that exists smack dab in the center of most attention. I cant think of two brothers from ancient past that are still battling it out here in the third dimension; and what is it the conflict born of: RELIGIOUS BIAS, and CULTURAL HATRED and PROPERTY DISPUTES. Its not about that sliver of land, its about the temple mount location in Jeruselem; and the potencial for another world war; caused by a paradigm/architype that refuses to go away, that of strife; suffering and the worst "PETTY BICKERING" between major religions that should grow up (know better).

edit on 16-3-2014 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)

Was it Islamic land before Solomon's Temple? No, and the sight where the Golden Domed Mosque sits was Herod's Temple. And the idea that it was a portal to someplace comes from a supposed dream Mohammed said he had, not one that he actually had, because he relates it like this....

He says he flew on Al buraqua (flying donkey type creature also known in Persian mythology) to Jerusalem, tied his Al buraqua to the place where prophets all tied their animals to and then went inside to proclaim his prophethood, the prophets there welcomed him in and allowed him to recite Quran to them.

Notice the flaws in this story?

1: There was no temple at that time.
2: He didn't understand how the temple was designed.
3: There's no such ring that the prophets tied their animals to.
4: He would not have made it past the Court of the Gentiles.
5: As there was no temple, no rabbis or prophets would have been there.
6: Even if there was a temple, the rabbis would not let him in, he would have been relegated to the outer court.
7: This all precludes his supposed ascension to heaven where he met prophets such as Moses, Adam, Jesus and Abraham.
8: None of them knew him, even though they were supposed to have prophesied about him.

He pitched this story to naive people who had never been to Jerusalem. His first orders ever were to perform prayers toward Jerusalem, but then after Medina, changed it to Mecca. Can you imagine the Jews who heard this story and laughed because there was no temple?

All this is his word.

Do you believe that he went to Herod's Temple, that was not where Solomon's Temple was? And Jesus was crucified on Golgotha, Isaac was bound on Mt. Moriah, where they say Jesus ascended from. But as the temple was still standing when Jesus ascended, then Mohammed went to the wrong place to claim he ascended from. Can you see there can be no mystical understanding about a portal to heaven, because Mohammed couldn't even get the simple details right? And you based your theory on what source?

WarminIndy
veteranhumanbeing
WarminIndy
reply to post by VeteranHumanBeing

VHBYour missing the obvious; even as Palestine and Isreal attempt to solve one bitter land dispute (and STILL IS UNRESOLVED); that is just a focal point of attention because Solomans temple was supposedly built on Islamic sacred ground (therefor the claim) the Temple mount will constantly be disputed. Mecca is the birthplace of Islam yet cannot let this idea go. Neither should be at odds with each other not in this day and age of superior law; negotiation tactics, appelate court systems. Some say the real battle is over a 'portal' to the higher dimensions that exists smack dab in the center of most attention. I cant think of two brothers from ancient past that are still battling it out here in the third dimension; and what is it the conflict born of: RELIGIOUS BIAS, and CULTURAL HATRED and PROPERTY DISPUTES. Its not about that sliver of land, its about the temple mount location in Jeruselem; and the potencial for another world war; caused by a paradigm/architype that refuses to go away, that of strife; suffering and the worst "PETTY BICKERING" between major religions that should grow up (know better).

WarminIndy Was is Islamic land before Solomon's Temple? No, and the sight where the Golden Domed Mosque sits was Herod's Temple.

I disagree, Herods shrines (home) to himself were seaboard and are speculative, given the foundation measurements of Solomons Temple the Mosque is built upon are exact, and these are the golden numbers held today by Freemasons (Solomon being a sort of well, kindred spirit, God=Sacred Geometry=God numbers).

WarminIndyAnd the idea that it was a portal to someplace comes from a supposed dream Mohammed said he had, not one that he actually had, because he relates it like this; He says he flew on Al buraqua (flying donkey type creature also known in Persian mythology) to Jerusalem, tied his Al buraqua to the place where prophets all tied their animals to and then went inside to proclaim his prophethood, the prophets there welcomed him in and allowed him to recite Quran to them.
Notice the flaws in this story?
1: There was no temple at that time.
2: He didn't understand how the temple was designed.
3: There's no such ring that the prophets tied their animals to.
4: He would not have made it past the Court of the Gentiles.
5: As there was no temple, no rabbis or prophets would have been there.
6: Even if there was a temple, the rabbis would not let him in, he would have been relegated to the outer court.
7: This all precludes his supposed ascension to heaven where he met prophets such as Moses, Adam, Jesus and Abraham.
8: None of them knew him, even though they were supposed to have prophesied about him.

He may well have astral traveled, accessed Akashic Records; knew his destiny and met the persons he thought he was dreaming of. In this period of history, during the time periods of 0 AD to 700 AD 3 prophets emerged. Buddha, Jesus and Mohammed. Do you think this was happenstance/accidental? or these three people were aspects of the same being; just superimposed (overlays to asuage architypes) upon different places on the planet to cause change in human treatment of each other. Sort of like Missionaries to save or GIVE HOPE to regions in dire need of something other than subjugation to Roman rule (or the potencial of or anyone elses).

WarminIndyHe pitched this story to naive people who had never been to Jerusalem. His first orders ever were to perform prayers toward Jerusalem, but then after Medina, changed it to Mecca. Can you imagine the Jews who heard this story and laughed because there was no temple? All this is his word.

How many of them were educated? You could say the same thing about Moses proclaimations; Id be the first one to ask "where the heck did you acquire/steal this Ark of the Covenant from, I dont remember ever being in UR, its place of creation); oh now I remember you stole it from the Egyptions along with the qabalah knowledge; during the hasty removal of yourselves; the EXODUS, the "battery" powered by Uranium encased in gold (so as not to fry yourselves) symbol of creation/destruction (God force). What or whom exactly were you going to chasen with this symbol of mass destruction Moses? Were you going to threaten Yahweh with this? How did you loose it? Where did it get off to, to eventually disapear? (someone should have been fired).

WarminIndyDo you believe that he went to Herod's Temple, that was not where Solomon's Temple was? And Jesus was crucified on Golgotha, Isaac was bound on Mt. Moriah, where they say Jesus ascended from. But as the temple was still standing when Jesus ascended, then Mohammed went to the wrong place to claim he ascended from. Can you see there can be no mystical understanding about a portal to heaven, because Mohammed couldn't even get the simple details right? And you based your theory on what source?

I dont think he ever went to Jeruselem. He traveled to and from Mecca and Medina and close surrounding areas; (stayed in Medina eventually because his life was endangered from those that took the Koran to a different law level, that of Shiria). In whatever dreams he had at least did a better job of documenting his life; unlike Jesus who never wrote a thing (even though could write and or speak Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek). I never said Mohammed was/had any knowledge of a portal to the higher dimensions. This was/is a Solomon derivation and so also a Templar Knights and Freemason litergy; as in fabled/myth (all myths have the ring of truth).

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