Strange & Unexplained Symbols on My Granddaughter's Calves.

Zarniwoop
reply to post by TrueBrit

 

Either that, or wait to see the doctor.

I don't know of any MD's that would be useful in this situation.

That visit would seem like a waste of time and money.

This. Not a medical issue. He'll say the same thing I am. "She got touched with something that glows in black light." It does not look like an organic process, it looks like a stamp.

pasiphae

Char-Lee
reply to post by alienreality

 

comments suggesting practical jokers using black light ink on all their friends as a joke. Really? Yeah, everyone does that, /end sarcasm/

You must not have a teen daughter, of course they do these things! Yes they do! But since the girl is scared by it I would certainly not just take the line of she or her friends did it. i have had too many odd personal occurrences to say it is nothing.

what? i have a teen daughter who has many friends. they do not ALL "do these things". some kids are jokers and some aren't. all teens are not alike.

really I used to work with my next door neighbors mum, she thought her daughter was a absolute angel. but little did she know she smoked, hooked up with lots of guys and drank.

her mum once told me her daughter said this "Smoking stinks, I hate the smell"
I was thinking little did she know her daughter was doing all sorts of things with out her mum finding out.

Never be a naive parent and think you're child is a angel, because it could be all a act.

pasiphae

Char-Lee
reply to post by alienreality

 

comments suggesting practical jokers using black light ink on all their friends as a joke. Really? Yeah, everyone does that, /end sarcasm/

You must not have a teen daughter, of course they do these things! Yes they do! But since the girl is scared by it I would certainly not just take the line of she or her friends did it. i have had too many odd personal occurrences to say it is nothing.

what? i have a teen daughter who has many friends. they do not ALL "do these things". some kids are jokers and some aren't. all teens are not alike.

You HAVE a teenage daughter, so you don't have hindsight! Wait until you both grow up and then tell me that!A teen is a teen.

reply to post by nightstalker78

I think the one poster had it right. It's a Monster stamp,after sweat,bathing,etc.

How would you explain it has 4 lines clearly not three.

'It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.'

But I'm sure it's aliens anyway.

It is NOT a Monster energy drink logo people. The mark on her leg has 4 prongs coming down, Monster logo is an M and only has 3. And before anyone says the 4th prong is due to overlay of numerous logos, look at the pics again. They are all 4 pronged in the same manner. Overlay of more than one logo would be unlikely to repeat itself the same on each mark. And if it weren't for tbe glowing green color caused by the blacklight (the same color of the Monster logo), i doubt this connection would have even been made. It is obviously a transfer mark from something the girl pressed/presses her leg against in her normal day to day activities, what that is she may never find out. Orrrr.... a HOAX. One or the other, nothing else!!!

Char-Lee
reply to post by nightstalker78

 

I think the one poster had it right. It's a Monster stamp,after sweat,bathing,etc.

How would you explain it has 4 lines clearly not three.

You take the stamp
this represents the stamp
1 2 3
] ] ]

This represents what is happening when we apply the stamp over to the 2
1 1 2 3
] ] ] ]

easy we end up with four prints
That is how it ends up becoming 4.

amraks

Char-Lee
reply to post by nightstalker78

 

I think the one poster had it right. It's a Monster stamp,after sweat,bathing,etc.

How would you explain it has 4 lines clearly not three.

You take the stamp
this represents the stamp
1 2 3
] ] ]

This represents what is happening when we apply the stamp over to the 2
1 1 2 3
] ] ] ]

easy we end up with four prints
That is how it ends up becoming 4.

Did you really LOOK at the photos?

reply to post by Char-Lee



Yes I did thank you.. I have read this thread of start to finish.

reply to post by starfire2453


In the 90's I worked at a major blue jean manufacturer. We used several different chemicals over the years that contain an optical brightening agent. It's purpose was to make the lighter colors appear brighter. On several occasions I wound up with this stuff splashed back on me above my gloves. It would adsorb into the skin and glow under black light like the pictures shown. It would take weeks for it to fade away. Nothing would show in regular lighting. Optical brightening agents are used in many products today. Clothing, cosmetics, etc. Look around your environment, I'm pretty sure the aliens don't want her.

Char-Lee

amraks

Char-Lee
reply to post by nightstalker78

 

I think the one poster had it right. It's a Monster stamp,after sweat,bathing,etc.

How would you explain it has 4 lines clearly not three.

You take the stamp
this represents the stamp
1 2 3
] ] ]

This represents what is happening when we apply the stamp over to the 2
1 1 2 3
] ] ] ]

easy we end up with four prints
That is how it ends up becoming 4.

Did you really LOOK at the photos?

So the blue is the first stamp that was applied
the red is the second stamp that was applied


Its easy to make the pattern when using a stamp.

Maybe it was a game of who could stamp it exactly on the middle of the M making that pattern we are seeing,

Just a idea it would be a good challenge using invisible ink, because not being able to see it until you shine a black light on it to reveal who has won.

reply to post by starfire2453


I don't know if you have found any answers yet regarding the markings on your grand daughter.

I have a few questions/ideas to propose.

You said previously that your grand daughter grooms dogs, could one of her tools covered in a shampoo or cleaning agent that is used on the dog(s) have been on one of the tools and then a part of the tool somehow/someway touched her leaving the marks.

Does she keep the dog(s) in a crate ? If she were to lean on the crate, the bars could rub on her skin and leave a marking.

Does she use a grooming table that she leans on while doing the work, that somehow could be leaving this imprint on her ?

If you could be so kind as to take some pics of her grooming tools and supplies and give names of the cleaning agents she uses.

We could then pin down what the cleaning chemicals are comprised of and would know if it would or could cause the skin irritation on her. If we could see the equipment and tools she uses perhaps there will be a clearer picture on whether or not one of those objects could have caused the markings.







I was also wondering if this could be some type of parasitic reaction occurring that she may have contacted from one of the animals ?

All right... just posing more questions.

Please do come back and give us an update on the status of the markings. As we are now very curious to know what the results of the said markings were all about if any answers are actually found.

leolady

amraks

Char-Lee

amraks

Char-Lee
reply to post by nightstalker78

 

I think the one poster had it right. It's a Monster stamp,after sweat,bathing,etc.

How would you explain it has 4 lines clearly not three.

You take the stamp
this represents the stamp
1 2 3
] ] ]

This represents what is happening when we apply the stamp over to the 2
1 1 2 3
] ] ] ]

easy we end up with four prints
That is how it ends up becoming 4.

Did you really LOOK at the photos?

So the blue is the first stamp that was applied
the red is the second stamp that was applied

Its easy to make the pattern when using a stamp.

Maybe it was a game of who could stamp it exactly on the middle of the M making that pattern we are seeing,

Just a idea it would be a good challenge using invisible ink, because not being able to see it until you shine a black light on it to reveal who has won.

Guess we'll just have to disagree, on the Monster logo the center fork is longer, the top of the third one is set lower, and it would have to mean all of the marks some how had to bleed at the top exactly the same way each time.

reply to post by amraks


To you and all others who honestly disbelieve that good, obedient teens exist---they do. I have had teenagers---raised or helped raise at least 8 of them. Some were good, some were very typical. Same for the children of friends who are now raising their grands. I'm sorry you all have such a twisted view of the world that you must fall to the level of calling a person a liar and hoaxer simply because you or your children have/had bad behavior patterns. And, without even reading the posts, you certainly have vivid imaginations and little reading comprehension. I shouldn't be surprised since in 30 years of doing public education I should be used to "non-readers" comments but I honestly thought this site was somehow above average---sadly, I was wrong.
Deny ignorance indeed, some of you blathering about that----take a good look at your posts and see for yourself that your lack of actual knowledge is what needs denying. Since the OP posted pictures, you can't use your normal "pix or it didn't happen" so even faced with actual pictures, you simply make up preposterous theories and call the OP names. Again I say, Shame on you. This IS the "Gray Area" is it not? I'm new here but at least I've read the guidelines for discussions---perhaps some of you should do likewise--- www.abovetopsecret.com...

Char-Lee

Guess we'll just have to disagree, on the Monster logo the center fork is longer, the top of the third one is set lower, and it would have to mean all of the marks some how had to bleed at the top exactly the same way each time.

I'm skeptical that the majority of folks hereon are that interested in the 'real truth.'

I'm beginning to wonder if the OP will be back . . . given the enormous 'charity' shown to her.

I think your observations on the marks are more than reasonable.

It's plausible to me that some sort of stamp was involved. Or, some other sort of applicator which consistently 'drew' the same mark.

It would be worth doing, imho, to get the 'ink' analyzed to see how conventional or exotic it was.

I think all the noise about dog trimming tools, baskets, grids etc. leaving the marks is close to irrational nonsense.

I don't think ANYONE on this thread could take such tools and any variety of black light sensitive inks and carefully, deliberately, under very controlled conditions--produce marks that would be even 25-40% close to the images in the grandmother's photos.

To say that such incidental actions are going to near 100% faithfully produce close to 100% of the same marks repeatedly is . . . not well thought out . . . to put it extremely mildly.

Then there's the design of the marks. They do NOT REMOTELY LOOK LIKE

INCIDENTAL marks. They just don't.

Pretending they do is a supreme grope a galactic cluster or more well toward the opposite of Ockham's simplicity principle.

They VERY OBVIOUSLY LOOK LIKE

a DELIBERATE DESIGN . . . and a very repeated consistent deliberate design.

I don't understand how that is soooooooo difficult for people to notice . . . unless their biases and egos are getting in the way of their perceptions and the data.

Then there's the whole issue of the tattoo like tenacity of the 'ink' to remain there and avoid any kind of smearing or removal.

Does that mean that the ink is special or the application is special or both?

Unless the teen was totally zonked out by some med or technology, as routinely happens with critter abductions, it's virtually certain she'd have noticed being given a conventional tattoo. And, they are a bit too sloppy in their placement, for tattoos. So, I think it's reasonable to rule that out.

Part of me wonders . . . is there some exotic light tech that can take the chemicals in skin and turn selected portions into UV sensitive areas? I wouldn't have a clue if that's possible, or not.

The notion that ALL TEENS sneak around and outrageously violate parents' or authorities' boundaries is simply not true. I don't recall what the percentages would be but it's simply not true. The range of behavioral acting out goes essentially from near 0% to outrageous levels. Certainly the greatest numbers cluster in the middle of the bell shaped curve.

Given the amount of horrific ATTACHMENT DISORDER, the curve is probably quite lopsided toward acting out these later decades. Nevertheless, there's plenty of decent teens who delight to live within the values of their parents.

In terms of this granddaughter, everything I've read about her indicates that she's her own person yet is quite comfortable living within the evidently minimal boundaries set by her grandparent. The quality of the relationship is also consistent with that.

There were probably 8-12 sentences AT LEAST asserting evidence of such. For the blather about the teen to be a closet rebel acting out--everyone of those sentences would have had to be markedly different to outright false. That's just not congruent with either the OP or the daughter presented.

Personally, I don't blame the grandmother if she never lays eyes on ATS and this thread again. She came for help and ended up being called a liar and a hoaxer as well as ignorant about her own granddaughter. What cheek.

She did not deserve that. She gave plenty of example of how thorough she and the rest of the extended family had been in researching, brainstorming and analyzing the situation. And quite an incredible job they'd done before she ever posted the OP.

And poster after poster after poster after poster after poster APPEARED TO NOT EVEN READ those parts and to rant on about how ignorant, disingenuous, lying, . . . etc. the grandmother was. Evidently the Welcome Wagon was on vacation.

Clearly, no decent person or no decent request or cry for help goes unpunished hereon.

I think this is a microcosm prime example of what turns many folks off and away about the hostile climate on so many threads these days.

What a lovely bunch of coconuts.

And I say AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! to the post just above this one.
.

Many folks simply will not read a "wall of text." And for some of us oldsters, it's almost painful to try.

So here's my liberal reparagraphing of your excellent post for easier reading.

diggindirt
reply to post by amraks

 

To you and all others who honestly disbelieve that good, obedient teens exist---they do.

I have had teenagers---raised or helped raise at least 8 of them. Some were good, some were very typical. Same for the children of friends who are now raising their grands. I'm sorry you all have such a twisted view of the world that you must fall to the level of calling a person a liar and hoaxer simply because you or your children have/had bad behavior patterns.

And, without even reading the posts, you certainly have vivid imaginations and little reading comprehension. I shouldn't be surprised since in 30 years of doing public education I should be used to "non-readers" comments but I honestly thought this site was somehow above average---sadly, I was wrong.
Deny ignorance indeed, some of you blathering about that----take a good look at your posts and see for yourself that your lack of actual knowledge is what needs denying.


Since the OP posted pictures, you can't use your normal "pix or it didn't happen" so even faced with actual pictures, you simply make up preposterous theories and call the OP names.


Again I say, Shame on you. This IS the "Gray Area" is it not? I'm new here but at least I've read the guidelines for discussions---perhaps some of you should do likewise---


www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by BO XIAN


You might want to step off your high horse of gullibility there.


The OP came on with her story, posted pictures, solicited for opinions of what people thought it might be. So people have given their opinions. Unfortunately for the OP, the opinions and solutions seem to be a little too mundane for her liking, as she has quickly rejected or ignored them. She is seeking some sort of mystical/paranormal explanation, when the evidence she has given does not warrant such an explanation.

Sorry, but I am not seeing anything mysterious, unusual, or strange in these markings. A mundane explanation seems to fit, yet the OP has rejected them without truly examining them, and shows a lot of naivete regarding teenagers. The marks look unremarkable, and most likely came from a stamp, or an object/chemical that the girl has come into contact with. Not fully exploring these possibilities but fishing for some supernatural explanation is not looking for truth, but looking for what one wants to hear. This site is about denying ignorance.

reply to post by BO XIAN


And can you give me a specific example? I think this woman is full of it- created an account after viewing the site and decided to concoct some elaborate hoax in an attempt to create exactly what we are replying to.

This is so fake it's not funny. I could do the exact same thing and claim that I was just randomly playing with a black light and saw these crazy marks on my leg.

SIGH.

I just took pictures of an invisible ink tattoo of the symbol for Scorpio, glows in black/blue/purple & some LED lighting.....I downloaded them onto my laptop but when I tried to upload them here, I couldn't find them ::-(:
They look ALMOST identical & by an actual tattoo artist.
I will keep trying to get them up.......
My cousin's friend said it has been," In. " With 16 to 21 year olds mainly....
If all else fails, can I upload them on her from my cell phone? Anyone?
Be back soon

reply to post by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf


Have I been gullible in my life? Certainly. Particularly in my people-pleasing years.

I just think the evidence indicates the odds are low that I'm being gullible in this case.

I think you are reading the grandmother VERY inaccurately . . . and with attitude.

She did not display a cheeky attitude to others on the thread. Why dump train loads of it on her?


Ahhhh welll . . . whether she returns or not, at our graduation from this life, we'll all learn who was accurate about what and where the lines of truth lie.

I hope she returns. Can't blame her if she doesn't.

She had shot down most of the silly to simply not well thought-out explanations hereon with her family before she began posting on ATS.

imho, Y'all's positions just REQUIRE tooooooooooo many flights of absolute fantasy to be even half true.

I do realize that a huge chunk of y'all seem to be utterly 100% convinced that y'all are a 1,000% better psychologists than I am--particularly in terms of assessing granny and granddaughter.

Time will tell.