Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

reply to post by Catacomb


That is the million dollar question. Perhaps they'll do even more tests in the near future with anti-ship missiles.

Either way, countries normally announce when they test ICBMs ahead of time as to not cause a panic. I wonder if this was announced prior, or done out of the blue.

schmae
reply to post by KeliOnyx

 

I'm an idiot I guess but please tell me , does that mean this area is for Russian ' target practice' and is not hitting any ' targets' that are people, buildings, towns, etc. ? Russia owns/ leases this area just for this purpose , so no one is being 'struck' by the missiles? TIA

It was just a show of force, and was a test missle. It didn't do any damage, and more than likely was a pre-arranged place inside of Kazakhstan that they've fired upon before. It was a message to the USA, to stay out of their business, really. It was a message that shows they aren't playing around.

Wow.

So Kerry goes over, and this is the response.

DJW001


It is also a response to the US show of might in Korea. The US and Russia are now officially playing "chicken."

I hope Obama have most prominent psychologists and psychiatrists beside him when he decides what do.Who knows what is in Putin mind.He is not in touch of reality for sure.I'm usually not doom porn but this is the most dangerous situation the World is facing in 21st century.

schmae
reply to post by KeliOnyx

 

I'm an idiot I guess but please tell me , does that mean this area is for Russian ' target practice' and is not hitting any ' targets' that are people, buildings, towns, etc. ? Russia owns/ leases this area just for this purpose , so no one is being 'struck' by the missiles? TIA

Yes it means just that. There may be uninhabited buildings or a small ghost town there but it's purpose is for specifically target practice. Or in this particular case a safe target for Putin to launch a missile and pound his chest a bit.

schmae
reply to post by KeliOnyx

 

I'm an idiot I guess but please tell me , does that mean this area is for Russian ' target practice' and is not hitting any ' targets' that are people, buildings, towns, etc. ? Russia owns/ leases this area just for this purpose , so no one is being 'struck' by the missiles? TIA

Yes, this would be a test in an isolated area.

reply to post by khimbar


I thought the same thing. Things were somewhat quiet until Kerry arrived and spoke.

19:22: The dummy warhead of a ballistic missile fired by Russia on Tuesday evening has hit its target in Kazakhstan, the Russian defence ministry is quoted as saying.

Kerry: "I don't always go over to Ukraine, but when I do, I make things worse" (aka the most interesting secretary of state in the world)...

What's next? A squadron of Russian MiGs will practice Air Superiority maneuvers right around the time that Kerry leaves?

jhn7537
Kerry: "I don't always go over to Ukraine, but when I do, I make things worse" (aka the most interesting secretary of state in the world)...

In this troubling, and very serious time, I have to admit...I needed this. It made me laugh, and I thank you very much for that.

rigel4

DJW001
reply to post by rigel4

 

It doesn't matter which side looks best on paper... because which ever side loses.. the other will
attack with nukes. Only a miracle would stop that.

You mean the losing side would resort to nukes. Not necessarily, because that would result in Mutually Assured Destruction. There would be a mutiny before then.

I don't agree... War on this scale would way to fast.
Western Europe could not and would not Tolerate Russia Invading their soil.

Russia would not and could not tolerate NATO on theirs.

At the point of knowing either side is losing .. panic would set in and the order wold be given to fire a
small salvo of tactical nukes... THE END

Not necessarily. This is going to be siege warfare. The Russians will eventually be isolated in the peninsula and a blockade put in place. Neither side will have the stomach to fire on the other, but his advisers will eventually convince Putin not to call America's bluff. Morale in the Crimea will eventually deteriorate, until the Russians are forced to proclaim victory and retreat, having been reassured that they can continue to use their bases... with reduced troop levels. The blockade will be lifted and the Crimeans will remember how hungry and frightened they were when the Russians were running things. They will hold a referendum and vote to remain Ukrainians.

The Strategic Rocket Forces launched an RS-12M Topol missile from the southerly Astrakhan region near the Caspian Sea and the dummy warhead hit its target at a proving ground in Kazakhstan, the state-run news agency RIA cited Defence Ministry spokesman Igor Yegorov as saying.

As Ukraine tension flares, Russia test-fires a ICBM

Sydney Morning Herald

Hm, that sure escalated quickly. Let's see what all this chest pounding leads to, hopefully someone will wince and back off, but if the banksters think it needs to be done, then done it will be...

It's been so long since the Cold War that many people don't remember what it was like to grow up expecting to die in a nuclear war. I don't think the ICBM test firing is Putin playing a game of chicken. I think it's Putin trying to send a clear message that he's not playing games.

Unfortunately, I don't think that's how the Obama administration will interpret it.

schmae
reply to post by khimbar

 

I thought the same thing. Things were somewhat quiet until Kerry arrived and spoke.

Maybe Putin didnt like Kerry calling him a liar or when he was told that Putin denied there was Russian troops there and Kerry laughed shook his head and asked did he really say that?

ikonoklast
It's been so long since the Cold War that many people don't remember what it was like to grow up expecting to die in a nuclear war. I don't think the ICBM test firing is Putin playing a game of chicken. I think it's Putin trying to send a clear message that he's not playing games.

Unfortunately, I don't think that's how the Obama administration will interpret it.

I would tend to agree. I do not think that Obama has much experience around people who are very direct, and mean what they say. Putin is very direct, for the most part, with what he wants to happen with this whole affair. Sadly, I don't think he's going to back down.

ikonoklast
It's been so long since the Cold War that many people don't remember what it was like to grow up expecting to die in a nuclear war. I don't think the ICBM test firing is Putin playing a game of chicken. I think it's Putin trying to send a clear message that he's not playing games.

Yeah back in those days if he had done that, the US would have sent a squadron of B-52's near the Russian border to flirt with their airspace and launched a few ICBM tests of their own.

Thank God those days are over!!!

dragonridr

schmae
reply to post by khimbar

 

I thought the same thing. Things were somewhat quiet until Kerry arrived and spoke.

Maybe Putin didnt like Kerry calling him a liar or when he was told that Putin denied there was Russian troops there and Kerry laughed shook his head and asked did he really say that?

I did wonder if mocking Putin in such a public way was a smart move.