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Daedalus
so for you to over simplify things, and suggest that we just "do what they did" is disingenuous
i do? holy s**t, when did that happen?
also, you(unsurprisingly) misunderstood what i said...
in today's context (which makes just as much sense), it's used as something of a cautionary slogan for people who value both freedom and security
daskakik
I'm not the one claiming that one third of the people "don't support this garbage".
All I did was point out that one third is all it took to establish the USA so saying nothing is being done because two thirds don't care is not a valid excuse.
Guess that cuts both ways.
Even your breakdown doesn't lead to "you have both, hold on to them". You can't resolve the logical problem of giving up something in exchange for something you already have.