The autoimune response is becoming clear

Mac Millian thought it was just a matter of a few antibodies would be affected but we seem to be getting an understanding that autoimmunity was getting triggered by vaccination. New papers coming out , are suggesting that the pharma and scientific communities are negligent , and suggests that tsunami is coming with regards to autoimmunity disease, which will undoubtably leave the experts baffled.The reason is that greater implications regarding the spike protein have been found which seem to be suggesting that a time bomb is occuring, and nobody has a clue hoewto react simply because the research isn't being done to mitigate the growing wave. Mac Millan's Comments are comprised of RN's and Doctors, which suggest this wave in annacdotal terms, is now an obvious ocurance. www.youtube.com... so here is the URL. But the scientific research suggests that something unheard of or even expected from the Mrna shot is now occuring on such a large scale that its effect will be clear to the most stubborn in the next five years.

a reply to: annonentity

The talking heads have five years to dream up all kinds of 'newly discovered' things to blame.
I hope they're wrong about long-term effects, but fear they're not. I think I worry most about genetic effects and how it may harm future children.

a reply to: annonentity

A couple that we are friends with where gung ho vaxers.

A few weeks after they got their first shot the guy came down with an immunodeficiency issue.

He got really bad arthritis and other inflammatory symptoms.

Kept on getting vaccinated and boosted.

Kept on getting sicker and sicker.

As I write this he’s in ICU intubated with pneumonia that came out of nowhere.

ETA: writing this gave me the urge to check in with his wife.

He passed this morning

For some good news, the Australian Senate finally agreed to have an inquiry into the rise in all cause mortality going on. As for how long it takes and deep it gets?

The most stubborn are working hard on the no virus theories going around. Adds enough doubt to keep those that take the bait confused about things.

I think the most difficult part of this story will be who's "Science" gets to prevail. Independant or Authoritarian?

I try to work on learning which Scientists to trust, not just the Science itself, and I hate the phrase "Scientists say". It has no credibility without the Names and EARNED Credentials from experience instead of just an appointment by TPTB.

Thanks for the thread and link to the clip.

It was interesting to how some of the antibodies produced from the spike can interfere with estrogen action. Does help explain some of the mensural issues going on. It is the first I have heard of this one.

As for the autoimmune reaction with ACE2, could see that one coming at the start.

FDA & CDC Destroyed Ivermectin to Inject CV19 Bioweapon Vax – Dr. Pierre Kory

In this interview, Dr Pierre Cory has been finding some patients with spike antibody levels that go beyond the limits of the testing equipment. Extremely high levels where that individual has been turned into a spike protein manufacturing plant. While some of these individuals are still able to function ok, the individuals that are more sensitive to the spike protein are having problems being around them due to sheading.

a reply to: annonentity

Adding link to the Studies

ACE-2-like enzymatic activity is associated with immunoglobulin in COVID-19 patients - LINK

Catalytic Antibodies in Norm and Systemic Lupus Erythematosus - LINK

Nobody high up in the Health agencies is going to admit fault for ignoring others in that profession's concerns. They blasted their knowledge by discrediting them instead of considering there could be something to their warnings.

That is the way it is, people often protect their beliefs they hold and thrash at anyone that challenges their beliefs.

I see that happening all over in society, to say it does not happen in the heirchy of medical science would be ignorant. Give people a degree in something and they believe their knowledge is right...been that way for a long time. I see no change in our future, we are stuck with the hand we are dealt and this virus seems to be holding the cards right now unless they fold and start anew with their research.

Are this guys concerns real? I would say they are definitely worth investigating but it really does not matter because the ones running things that made mistakes will never accept their evidence since it will discredit themselves if they do.

The ones running the show don't want anyone challenging them. I understand how things are, but they will most likely just attack any research that puts their jobs or beliefs at risk. Science is sort of like a religion in that the beliefs the scientists hold steers interpretation of the evidence or discounts the evidence that contradicts their beliefs.

a reply to: NorthOS

Well, God Bless him. Did the vax itself kill him...or did he kill himself voluntarily by vaxing?

Serious thought here..RIP

EMT
Triple Vax, Double Boost

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: NorthOS

Well, God Bless him. Did the vax itself kill him...or did he kill himself voluntarily by vaxing?

Serious thought here..RIP

EMT
Triple Vax, Double Boost

You do realize that posting that you are an EMT does not mean in any way that you have any knowledge on the subject matter whatsoever?

You are not a CNA... not a RN... you are not a Doctor... you are not a Primary Care specialist, you are not a Secondary Care specialist, you are not a Tertiary Care specialist.

Your specialty is getting someone from accident scene to the hospital or waiting for the coroner.

Your Appeal to Authority does not work for you in this instance.

If our immune system was the war machine as one analogy to make some picture of how it works.

Antibodies: Ground Troops
T Cells: Tanks and planes
B Cells: Administration
Lymph Nodes: Rally Points
Bone Marrow: Next generation

a reply to: tarantulabite1

An Abzyme is a new term for me. Fits into a Special Forces type role, can do more damage than the average troop. With conditions like Lupus and Multiple Sclerosis, the code has made its way into the bone marrow.

On fist impression, interesting how HCQ is one treatment for Lupis.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Vaccines don’t kill people.

People do.

a reply to: kwaka

The thing about the Vid that gave me the chills which I don't think he mentioned was, if the lipid nano particle gets into nerve liver or reproductive cells, they are sort of the immortals of the human body which don't die and replace, especiaiy the brain and the heart neurones. Since they get programed to produce the spike protein, they will do it as long as the cell is viable.The implications would be obvious for brain problems.Since they have tested for spike protein which appears to be present six months after the jab, there does not seem to be any data beyond that as they didn't test beyond the six months.
So if you got the natural infection and cleared it naturally, the spike protein seems to go, but having the lipid nano particle slip unnoticed by the immune system into the cell and start producing spike.Which exits through the cell wall into the bloodstream,it will get picked off depending how good the immune system still is ,and cause an inflamatory response.In the brain this would be bad news.This could be why they were planning for a zombie apocalypse. Correct me if I have got this wrong but thats the way it appears to me.

a reply to: annonentity

For my take on the lipid nano particle, the body sees it as some food for the cell. Oils and fats get broken down for energy and used to make other proteins all the time.

With what limited data i did see about the lipid used in the mRNA tech when it came out, it looed to have a lot of different metals mixed with it. It helps in the production process and getting the lipid through the cell wall. This can make it harder for the cell to process, perhaps why the ovaries develop a stronger concentration of it as these cells do not regenerate.

As for what is going on with the mRNA, a mixed bag of things. The plan was the cell would make some spike protein for a short bit, then get flushed out as the cell gets back on track with what it is suppose to do. As for what is happening to some, the mRNA is getting integrated into the DNA through a process called reverse transcriptase. This causes the cell to continue to make spike protein. This process does not happen a lot, but does happen.

Another problem is all the genetic contamination from the production process. The batches used in mass vaccination are made different from the initial PCR derived mRNA strands. This is causing all kinds of genetic garbage going on as it hitches a ride on the lipids.

There are some problems going on for both the natural immunity and vaccinated. The Abzyme for covid are more common in natural immunity as those that got the vax had their immune system more targeted towards the spike. There are also differences in the antibodies between natural immunity and the vax that can be detected by some. In time a clearer picture of all the costs and benefits with the different options will emerge.

a reply to: nerbot

I think the most difficult part of this story will be who's "Science" gets to prevail. Independant or Authoritarian?

With how the 9/11 truth movement has gone, hit hard. AE for 9/11 is one still standing. Looking a bit like Rocky at the end of 15 rounds, but still on its feet going through the courts, as slow as it is.

It is the engineering community that has to deal with the insanity on building codes if the official narrative is to be taken seriously keeping this one alive. I can see a similar thing happening with the medical community. A lot of good doctors have been burnt at the stake so far.

This is going to take a while with how the system is.

a reply to: NorthOS

Think you need to do some research, vaccines have been killing people and soon all flu vaccines will be MRNA. In uk there’s a big push around measles at moment and guess what , they’ve got a booster for your children to have lol.
My kids are not having any vaccines that are MRNA, never.
We’ve seen a rise in death rates , lowered birth rates , huge number of heart disease and failure, increased cancers , etc etc
All the stats are rising or falling depending the area and coincidence? This all happened once the rollout happened?
This is more important to get right or more are going to die, ignoring these stats would be negligent on everyone’s part as nothing will change if we don’t take responsibility.

a reply to: G1111B1234

Vaccines are as inanimate as a gun.

The people who manufacture, advertise, coerce, and administer the product are the killers.

a reply to: NorthOS

We are all going to die one day in this world. Being born guarantees a death sentence one day, some how. It is the rules of life. Until then, if I can find a place with my ancestors that helped get us this far for the next generation, may I rest in peace when it is my time to go.

Lots of dangers, lots of things can harm and kill us along the way. Have some fun, do the right thing, make the most of it while you can. A lot of this universe looks, cold, dark and empty. Not a good place to be if stuck out there.

a reply to: NorthOS

At this moment people need to know that the vaccines are bad otherwise they will keep taking them. The people behind it is another story and for people waking up is a lot of info to take.
However taking something that can have these affects on people that’s dangerous and to ignore that is dangerous.
I agree the powers need to have their justice but this is another how dangerous the vaccines are.

a reply to: G1111B1234

At this moment people need to know that the vaccines are bad otherwise they will keep taking them.

It is not killing everyone at the moment. Bill Gates got it with his 10% increase in mortality. Lot of injuries to add.

With those that do survive, their body is going to be better at handling more mRNA tech. Still will take a few more out as new compounds are introduced. With those still remaining with the biology to handle it, can start to do some amazing things things and adapt quicker to more extreme environments. One good result if the transhumanism dream adds up.

As for signing up to take part in such experimentation, I passed. Could it all fall apart as fertility crashes, or is that part of the plan too as the clones arrive and the next age on Earth begins as the Humans follow the dinosaurs?

For now, one step at a time. Its a big place. Some legacy from the dinosaurs still continues today.