Can Anyone Give Just One Reason To Trust The Pharmaceutical Industry

originally posted by: Disgusted123
People take drugs every day. For diabetes, for Aids, for HepC, for infections, to stop organ rejection, and a million other things.

So most people trust the drugs. And you will too if you need them to stay alive. Each and every one of you.

People here rail against drugs and medicine, yet the minute you get sick, off to the emergency room or doctor you go.

Next time, perhaps you should just stay home and let nature take its course. But we all know, you won't. You'll take those pills and get better.

So yes, people trust pharmaceuticals.

The pills you speak of have been around for many decades. Unlike you, most can differentiate between what's proven good and things not to be trusted. People only trust what they know to be trustworthy, unless it's your type that believes the big government has your back, then they give you a command and you trust it You trust what they tell you trust. And you are still doing it. They even offer treats to get experimental jabs like donuts and other things for their obedient trainees.

Absolutely Ricky, thanks for the reply.

a reply to: RickyD

a reply to: Dalamax

I went without going to the doctors for years.

A few years ago when I turned 50, I went for a checkup.

The doctor took my BP and heart rate, which I can do at home, then he put a glove on and did something I wouldn’t do anywhere.

He said everything seems fine.

After that he asked me a bunch of questions about my family, found out my dad passed at nearly 80 from a heart attack, and prescribed statins because “I was at risk”.

I went home, looked up the side effects, and never went back to the doctors.

I’m with you guys, but to be honest I take an Advil maybe a couple of times a year if my back flares up. Definitely helps.

Just as a side note, my aunt was a nurse all of her working life and was terrified of doctors and can’t say I recall her ever taking medication.

So there are no preservatives in comorbidity, what’s it’s shelf life and is the a temperature range it must be kept in?

a reply to: chr0naut

a reply to: TimBurr

I feel there is a place for meds but also feel there is also alternatives that may work as well

a reply to: NorthOS

My mom is similar career nurse many different depts and my bro is an emt. Funny enough I typically trust their advice above most docs...its saved my ass more than once.

a reply to: TimBurr

Gonorrhea or chlamydia or whatever! That's about it!

a reply to: TimBurr

Well this is why I didn't get the shot from the beginning. Because they told us this is how MRNA vaccines work. It goes into your cell and instructs your cell how to make spike proteins. This is vastly different from how other vaccines work. I dont want anything inside my cells telling my body to produce pieces of a virus. No thanks. So that is why I didn't get the shot and I will stand by that because they also told us in one of their war-game simulations of viruses that in their scenario they eventually 10 years later they reveal that the vaccine is bad and has been making people sick the whole time. As we have seen, they tell us what they're doing through these simulated war games of viruses and cyber attacks. So we will see what happens in the future.

a reply to: NorthOS

That doctor wanted to get you on the expressway to dementia. A lot of doctors prescribe medicine knowing the side effects will cause you to see more doctors thus more money for them. He saw a big mark when you walked in and could have told you anything was wrong with you and the average person would just say 'but I feel fine' and just go along and do whatever the doctor told them. Good for you standing up to the other MIC, the Medical Industrial Complex. Statins probably cause dementia and Parkinsons. According to science.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain
The crazy part is before Covid, the Left hated Big Pharma.

Now they are the biggest shills for Big Pharma that the CEOs could've ever hoped to have.

Never thought I'd see the day.

The left never hated big pharma.

I see your record of posting blatant lies is intact.

Seriously, do you get paid by the lie?

originally posted by: Dalamax
So there are no preservatives in comorbidity, what’s it’s shelf life and is the a temperature range it must be kept in?

a reply to: chr0naut

mRNA is fragile, so that is why it is lipid encapsulated and must also be kept very cold when stored and transported.

Comirnaty lasts for six months when stored and handled at ultra-cold -90 to -60 degree Centigrade temperatures.

In use, it can be transferred to more normal refrigeration between 2 to 8 degree Centigrade temperatures and wil last under those conditions up to a maximum of 31 days.

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain
The crazy part is before Covid, the Left hated Big Pharma.

Now they are the biggest shills for Big Pharma that the CEOs could've ever hoped to have.

Never thought I'd see the day.

The left never hated big pharma.

I see your record of posting blatant lies is intact.

Seriously, do you get paid by the lie?

I don't get paid for posting.

I doubt that there are people so anile that they would want to pay people to post trival and uncommercial stuff on fairly small online sites.

Paranoids believe that people are lying to them, but the truth is that they are living in fantasies of their own creation.

a reply to: TimBurr

Short answer: No!

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain
The crazy part is before Covid, the Left hated Big Pharma.

Now they are the biggest shills for Big Pharma that the CEOs could've ever hoped to have.

Never thought I'd see the day.

The left never hated big pharma.

I see your record of posting blatant lies is intact.

Seriously, do you get paid by the lie?

I don't get paid for posting.

I doubt that there are people so anile that they would want to pay people to post trival and uncommercial stuff on fairly small online sites.

Paranoids believe that people are lying to them, but the truth is that they are living in fantasies of their own creation.

Did you say paranoids believe people are lying to them or maybe the government and the pharmaceuticals?

Did you not hear the safe and effective AstraZeneca vaccine has been withdrawn worldwide! You wanna take a guess on why it was withdrawn?

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: TimBurr

Here's 1: your child is dying of cancer, needs chemo.

You go " F'in pharmaceutical companies! We're NOT putting those drugs into my child!".

Ok Your child dies. It was the LACK of applied pharmaceuticals that killed your child: you.let them die..because, you know...." There isn't 1 reason to trust pharm companies".

I won't ask what'd you do. You've stated: no pharms, let my kid die.

Pharm comps are beyond whacked, agreed. But with life and death without options...youe child dies. Sooner.

Think about this. God bless.

EMT/Adv Life Support

This is a pretty good example of how the issues is very complicated.

Like big pharma is shady AF and has been caught red handed causing mass harm, like the opioid epidemic and all the pills they push that end up getting recalled. But they also produce things like anti-biotics and drugs that help people with diabetes and so on. Like everything it requires a person to always be aware and informed. And even more important, consent.

I dont blindly blanket everything as good or bad, I like to take everything as it comes on a situational need. If its an example of being in an ambulance and needing a shot of whatever to keep me alive, or my doc giving me antibiotics because I have a serious infection, then damn right I trust pharma. But in cases where I have a medical issue that is not serious or life threatening, and there are non drug less harsh options, I take those. Like, for example I have frequent insomnia, but rather than take pills for it, I go with things like valerian and chamomile tea, melatonin and hot baths. or for anxiety I try hotbaths and aromatherapy instead of addicting medication. I treat medication as something to take only if I have a serious condition that cant be treated successfully other ways.

It also helps I have a doctor I trust and who is very respectful and supportive of my decisions and concerns, and likes to explore non drug, non-invasive options for minor to moderate problems. She is not a pill pusher, but a caring, knowledgable person that likes to help people.

When it comes to vaccines, I think they are fine overall. I was very leary of the covid jab and did not take it for like a year and a half, but after talking to my doctor and friends and family who were healthcare professionals, as well as doing my own research and digging, and getting COVID twice, I got the shot and have no problems. But I also believe people should have the right to choose what goes into their bodies, and refuse the shot regardless of what their reasons are. I think its completely unacceptable for any reason to force vaccination or treatment on anyone who doesnt want it. I also think its unaccaptable to prevent a person from receiving a treatment even if you disagree with it.

a reply to: burritocat

Morning...and thank you.

Posters that read my posts...should know this:

We in Emergency Medicine and Incident Response...DO NOT TRUST THE PHARMACY COMPANIES ourselves.

But we must committ to using those...and the tools, provided.

God bless

If you learn science and maths you don't have to trust it and can interpret papers and studies yourself.

Far better than being taken advantage of by the likes of the Daily Expose website whose writers lack basic numeracy skills and regularly prints false and misleading scare stories for money.

There's plenty of free guides from well respected Drs online teaching patients how to read scientific papers - I recommend Dr Ben Golacre's version.

Bad Science - How to read a paper

Basically, it boils down to the "tried and true" for me.

Something that has been around for a long, long time, and doesn't have much of "hazard warning" to it, yeah, I'll take it.

But I lean heavily on herbal remedies for most basic stuff, that people want "instant" relief from.
Colds, allergies, things like that.
In some instances, it may take a day or so longer to get better with herbals. But they also usually have other positive effects on your body.

Can't generally say that about pharmaceuticals.

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: chr0naut

Really because I have yet to see anywhere with and actual list of ingredients. In fact its proprietary and not published at all. That won't keep you from writing another page of words about something you don't actually know about...I mean its not exactly a simple subject. I have worked events for both companies in the US which makes these vaccines...in fact I was at the first meeting in person of the Pfizer sales team last year. I can't talk about it because it would be easy for that to but me in the butt and ruin client relations for me...but lets just say they speak very differently when its just them in a room where everyone has an NDA...

They were all public info a month or so before the first vaccines were given and a legal requirement to be included in patient info with every vax administered.

Ingredients and ammounts lists were very easy to find in patient information leaflets for every vax but there were a load of conspiracy sites falsely claiming ingredients were secret and making up stories about them containing graphene and similar.