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SC Jack Smith is Using Subterfuge Tricks with Donald Trumps Upcoming Documents Trial.

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posted on Jan, 30 2024 @ 07:09 PM
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Tuesday, January 30, 2024

On June 9, 2023, President Biden's Attorney General (Merrick Garland) indicted Joe Biden's #1 2024 competitor for the Presidency, Donald J. Trump, for mishandling "classified" documents.

The trial is tentatively scheduled for May 20th 2024...but there are very "strange" requests being made by Special Counsel-Prosecutor, Jack Smith. As a result, trial judge Aileen Canon has called for a special meeting between herself and Jack Smith, tomorrow morning...

Jack Smith and Mar-a-Lago judge set for hearing at secure ‘facility’ as Trump lawyers question how special prosecutor has handled classified documents.

Special counsel Jack Smith will appear before U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon on Wednesday morning. Cannon said in a paperless order filed in federal court on Jan. 11 that the hearing will be held to evaluate classified filings by Smith, being sought by Trump and his co-defendants.

The case stems from Trump’s indictment in the Southern District of Florida accusing him of mishandling and illegally retaining classified and sensitive records after leaving office, including storing them in his bathroom and shower at Mar-a-Lago and allegedly showing them off at his golf club. Trump and two co-conspirators — Walt Nauta and Carlos De Oliveira — have pleaded not guilty. The trial is currently slated for May 20.
Much more at: lawandcrime.com... or-has-handled-classified-documents/

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(Stupid) Liberal Media is angry that Trial Judge Aileen Canon wants to talk to Special Counsel Smith!

This upcoming meeting "troubles" us!: www.salon.com...

As the article says, Jack Smith wants to HIDE some evidence from the Trump defense team, because it will reveal highly-sensitive information.

If Donald Trump had this information in the first place, and his attorneys are now fully cleared to view Top Secret documents, why does Jack Smith have a problem with letting them see it? What kind of tricks could Special Counsel Prosecutor Smith be trying to pull?

-WeMustCare



posted on Jan, 30 2024 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: WeMustCare

Political theater.

Awe to be Baron the time traveler and see a year from now…::::



posted on Jan, 30 2024 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: WeMustCare
Tuesday, January 30, 2024

On June 9, 2023, President Biden's Attorney General (Merrick Garland) indicted Joe Biden's #1 2024 competitor for the Presidency, Donald J. Trump, for mishandling "classified" documents.

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As the article says, Jack Smith wants to HIDE some evidence from the Trump defense team, because it will reveal highly-sensitive information.

If Donald Trump had this information in the first place, and his attorneys are now fully cleared to view Top Secret documents, why does Jack Smith have a problem with letting them see it? ...
-WeMustCare


First of all, AG Garland did not indict anyone. Indictments are handed down by a Grand Jury.

Second, what makes you assume that Trump had the information in the first place that Smith wants to keep from Trump? Trump is being prosecuted for illegally taking, retaining, and communicating national security information as described in the Espionage Act of 1917. The prosecution will have the burden of proving that the documents that they took from Trump's residences that they will put in to evidence do, in fact, contain national security information, and the defense will have an opportunity to try to prove otherwise. That means that the defense has to have access to the documents that will be put into evidence. The prosecution claims, and can prove, that those documents that will be put into evidence are still legitimately classified, and neither Trump nor his lawyers are contesting that point. If a document is still classified, it more or less automatically contains national security information, as defined in the Espionage Act. If both the prosecution and the defense agree that the documents in question are still classified, then both parties have to have the appropriate security clearances in order to view them. The documents that the prosecution claims will convict Trump under the Espionage Act are the only ones that the defense have a need to know about in their entirety.

Jack Smith has said that he knows why Trump took the documents and what he intended to do with them and he intends to present that information at trial, to establish a motive. My guess would be that the information Smith is referring to could have come from a confidential human source, and/or signals intercepts. If so, neither Trump nor his attorneys would be cleared for that information. For one thing, Trump would probably leak the information and burn the sources.



posted on Jan, 30 2024 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: Boomer1947

Then there should be no conflict, if Smith is doing everything "above board".



posted on Jan, 30 2024 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: Boomer1947

Indictments are handed down by a Grand Jury.


... ... ... with all information and assumed evidence usually one sided presented by biased prosectors 😀

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posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 05:04 AM
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a reply to: Boomer1947

if you are accused of a crime, and the accuser refuses to give the defense any material they will be using to prosecute them, it's against the law. Discovery. If they can't give it to the defense, then it's inadmissible. I learned that from Perry Mason.



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 06:34 AM
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Special counsel Jack Smith will appear before U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon on Wednesday morning. Cannon said in a paperless order filed in federal court on Jan. 11 that the hearing will be held to evaluate classified filings by Smith, being sought by Trump and his co-defendants.


Does everyone see the word 'classified' above? Enough said.



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: WeMustCare




Special counsel Jack Smith will appear before U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon on Wednesday morning. Cannon said in a paperless order filed in federal court on Jan. 11 that the hearing will be held to evaluate classified filings by Smith, being sought by Trump and his co-defendants.


Does everyone see the word 'classified' above? Enough said.


so classified documents cannot be used in court? What is this even about then?



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 08:03 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: WeMustCare




Special counsel Jack Smith will appear before U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon on Wednesday morning. Cannon said in a paperless order filed in federal court on Jan. 11 that the hearing will be held to evaluate classified filings by Smith, being sought by Trump and his co-defendants.


Does everyone see the word 'classified' above? Enough said.


so classified documents cannot be used in court? What is this even about then?


This, I suppose:



Each of CIPA's provisions is designed to achieve those dual goals: preventing unnecessary or inadvertent disclosures of classified information and advising the government of the national security "cost" of going forward.


www.justice.gov...

It's classified - why question whether or not it should be classified? Boggles the mind.



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 08:11 AM
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I think she wants more info on his last filing that states Smith knows why Trump stole them, what he was doing with them, and will prove it in court. Possibly she wants to try to prevent him from putting the info into any other filings that will be public, or she will feed it back to Trump through intermediaries. Maybe? Maybe it is just about the Nat Sec documents. Unsure. Odd she's the only judge Trump has not attacked. No?

We will see I suppose.
edit on 31-1-2024 by frogs453 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: WeMustCare




Special counsel Jack Smith will appear before U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon on Wednesday morning. Cannon said in a paperless order filed in federal court on Jan. 11 that the hearing will be held to evaluate classified filings by Smith, being sought by Trump and his co-defendants.


Does everyone see the word 'classified' above? Enough said.


so classified documents cannot be used in court? What is this even about then?


This, I suppose:



Each of CIPA's provisions is designed to achieve those dual goals: preventing unnecessary or inadvertent disclosures of classified information and advising the government of the national security "cost" of going forward.


www.justice.gov...

It's classified - why question whether or not it should be classified? Boggles the mind.


sweet, Trump is off the hook on this one. I'm sure this is news to you, but his entire issue has to do with classified documents regarding this case. If they can't be used as evidence, as you have definitively stated, then there is no evidence to present, and he cannot be charged, let alone convicted. You solved this one Columbo! Well done!



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 08:31 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: WeMustCare




Special counsel Jack Smith will appear before U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon on Wednesday morning. Cannon said in a paperless order filed in federal court on Jan. 11 that the hearing will be held to evaluate classified filings by Smith, being sought by Trump and his co-defendants.


Does everyone see the word 'classified' above? Enough said.


so classified documents cannot be used in court? What is this even about then?


This, I suppose:



Each of CIPA's provisions is designed to achieve those dual goals: preventing unnecessary or inadvertent disclosures of classified information and advising the government of the national security "cost" of going forward.


www.justice.gov...

It's classified - why question whether or not it should be classified? Boggles the mind.


sweet, Trump is off the hook on this one. I'm sure this is news to you, but his entire issue has to do with classified documents regarding this case. If they can't be used as evidence, as you have definitively stated, then there is no evidence to present, and he cannot be charged, let alone convicted. You solved this one Columbo! Well done!


I suppose they could ask the government if they can use one classified document and then the government can put the necessary safeguards in place, then declassify it for submission. Who knows, they are still trying to figure out what to do.



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 08:58 AM
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It's a run of the mill CIPA hearing. There's nothing nefarious on either side.



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

Yea, it's always a good time to change your story when the premise falls apart.



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

Yea, it's always a good time to change your story when the premise falls apart.


Putting forth theories is not changing up a story. DERP



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

Yea, it's always a good time to change your story when the premise falls apart.


Putting forth theories is not changing up a story. DERP


LOL, you went from pretending to be the smartest person in the room



Does everyone see the word 'classified' above? Enough said.


to not knowing the answer



I suppose they could ask the government if they can use one classified document and then the government can put the necessary safeguards in place, then declassify it for submission. Who knows, they are still trying to figure out what to do.


all on the same page. DERP indeed.



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

Yea, it's always a good time to change your story when the premise falls apart.


Putting forth theories is not changing up a story. DERP


LOL, you went from pretending to be the smartest person in the room



Does everyone see the word 'classified' above? Enough said.


to not knowing the answer



I suppose they could ask the government if they can use one classified document and then the government can put the necessary safeguards in place, then declassify it for submission. Who knows, they are still trying to figure out what to do.


all on the same page. DERP indeed.


That's right...look up theories then don't get back to me.



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: frogs453

There's no proof Trump stole anything. 😀



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: WingDingLuey

There's actually thousands of pages. The PRA is very clear that all Presidential records become property of the US government when a President leaves office.



posted on Jan, 31 2024 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: WingDingLuey

There's actually thousands of pages. The PRA is very clear that all Presidential records become property of the US government when a President leaves office.


If thats the case,Obama,clinton also did the same.



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