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"We Didn’t Force Anyone To Do Anything"

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posted on Oct, 7 2023 @ 03:43 PM
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Yes, they DID force. Just because a gun wasn't held to the head doesn't mean force wasn't involved. And force was VERY involved

Force:
Coercion or compulsion, especially with the use or threat of violence.
To make (someone) do something against their will.





Background Press Call on OSHA and CMS Rules for Vaccination in the Work place_The White House
November 3, 2021

......fully vaccinated — up from less than 1 percent when the President took office. This is tremendous progress, but we know that we need more vaccinations to save lives, strengthen the economy, and accelerate our path out of this pandemic.

That’s why the President has been leading on requiring vaccinations, including for federal employees and federal contractors, and has called on employers to do the same. Thousands of employers have answered the President’s call and stepped up to implement vaccination requirements covering tens of millions of Americans. These requirements have already reduced the number of eligible unvaccinated Americans by 40 percent — down from about 100 million to just over 60 million now. Tomorrow morning, the administration is announcing a series of new policies that will protect workers and drive additional progress in getting millions of Americans vaccinated.

First, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, OSHA, is issuing a rule to require employers with 100 or more employees to ensure each of their workers is fully vaccinated or tests negative for COVID at least once a week. This rule covers 84 million employees.

Second, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, CMS, is issuing a rule to require that healthcare workers at facilities participating in Medicare and Medicaid are fully vaccinated. This rule covers more than 17 million workers at approximately 76,000 healthcare facilities around the country.

And third, to make it easy for businesses and workers to comply, we will be aligning the deadline for the previously announced requirement for employees of federal contractors to be fully vaccinated with these new OSHA and CMS rules. This single, consistent deadline across all three requirements is January 4th, 2022.

So, any employee covered by the CMS or federal contractor requirement must have their final vaccination dose by January 4th. And employers covered by the OSHA rule will need to ensure their employees have received their final vaccination dose by January 4th, with at least weekly testing required for unvaccinated employees after that.

Before I turn to my colleagues to walk through the OSHA and CMS rules in detail, I want to underscore the impact these policies will have on our fight against the virus.

Together, the OSHA and CMS rules, along with the other policies the administration has previously implemented, means that over two thirds of all workers in the United States are now covered by vaccination policies.

Many organizations that have adopted vaccination requirements have increased vaccination rates by more than 20 percentage points to well over 90 percent, and compliance is very high. Higher vaccination rates protect our workers, reduce hospitalizations and deaths. This is good for workers and, importantly, this is good for the economy. For example, analysts at Goldman Sachs projected these kinds of vaccination requirements could lead to up to 5 million Americans reentering the workforce, as they feel safer going back to work and experience fewer disruptions to things like childcare.

The bottom line is: Vaccination requirements work. And the actions we’re taking tomorrow will lead to millions of Americans getting vaccinated, protecting workers, saving lives, strengthening our economy, and helping it to accelerate our path out of this pandemic. With that, I’ll turn it over to [senior administration official].

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Thank you very much. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration is dedicated to ensuring every working person in the country has a safe and healthy work place. The unmitigated spread of the corona virus in the work place presents a grave danger of illness or death to unvaccinated workers. OSHA has determined that in order to protect workers from this continued hazard, we must issue an Emergency Temporary Standard to protect workers from the spread of coronavirus in the workplace. The rule we are announcing covers employers with 100 or more employees, firm or company wide, and provides options for compliance to protect their workers.

The standard requires employers to develop, implement, and enforce a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination policy, unless they adopt a policy requiring employees to choose either to get vaccinated or to undergo weekly COVID-19testing and wear a face covering at work.


I don't see how anyone can say there was no force because there very evidently was. Denying the definition of force in these instances, you might as well deny the word completely as a verb.



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posted on Oct, 7 2023 @ 04:36 PM
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Do you know what happens when you catch someone in a lie, and present the documentation and evidence to them? Thats when the kid gloves come off. Thats when you will begin to see the real nature of your government. Thats when the # will hit the fan, and guess which side of the fan we will be on?



posted on Oct, 7 2023 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem
Do you know what happens when you catch someone in a lie, and present the documentation and evidence to them? Thats when the kid gloves come off. Thats when you will begin to see the real nature of your government. Thats when the # will hit the fan, and guess which side of the fan we will be on?


I think our government has been wearing latex gloves for a while now.

They don’t care that we see their naked arses. They just don’t want us to get their fingerprints or latent DNA. They learned from the dress.



posted on Oct, 7 2023 @ 05:15 PM
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Not only did they force the vaccine, they are still forcing the vaccine!

School children must get it to be in most schools.

Not only did they FORCE the vaccine, they caused those who
refused to be fired, ostracized, fined, even jailed.

They locked us up, FORCED masking, closed businesses
and murdered people with ventilators that were not
even necessary.

NEVER FORGET!



posted on Oct, 7 2023 @ 06:16 PM
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We Didn’t Force Anyone To Do Anything

Technically, that is correct.
They just forced the federal and state governments ,and corporations, to force people.
"Let's Go Brandon" and his entire administration.
Sorry, that just had to be said.



posted on Oct, 7 2023 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: Ilikesecrets
What about the CDC vax cards and the threats of Federal prosecution of anyone trying to alter or forge them?


Into the Memory Hole with that!



posted on Oct, 7 2023 @ 10:14 PM
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Seem like political figures tend to forget they did things that violate people's rights a lot these days. Way more than they used to years ago. It occasionally happened years ago but now that they have encouraged the medical industry to supply meds that dampen people's ability to properly reason or states allowed cannabis use which also can dampen a person's ability to reason...they think everyone is dumbed down enough to believe their lies. This is more of a Liberal practice than a conservative one.

Also, seems like they found out around 2010-2012 that fructose can dampen people's comprehension so it is just a coincidence that now they are telling people to eat a lot of fruit and veggies every day...most people would choose the fruit.

The recent information of bad effects of aspertame and other artificial sweetners that are now in lots of things causes their own problems with health and thinking... In this country the FDA has been mute with that subject, but in Europe they are starting to accept that evidence and are going to try to do something with that.

We still have people that can think right in this country, unless the government discredits these people and keeps people from listening to them, their desire to control the masses by taking away their comprehension will not work, these people have an alternative to their brainwashing technique...if you dampen someone's mind so they cannot evaluate things properly, they follow the leader whom ever they believe is in their best interest.

Gee, I feel like I am becoming a conspiracy theorist....just because I have studied some chemistries that naturally occur that can be used to make people into puppets and see see similar methods of action being promoted makes me into a conspiracy nut. Used the wrong word, it should be sheep instead of puppets when dealing with this kind of chemistry.



posted on Oct, 7 2023 @ 10:51 PM
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originally posted by: karl 12

originally posted by: ancientlight

It's called gaslighting.



Thanks mate but do prefer to use old school English and just call it 'lying'.

Have found a good rule of thumb is to stay well away from 'new' words or phrases that have been 'seeded' into the public consciousness over the last few years.

Also doesn't help that they keep changing the actual 'definition' of things lol.

Anyway regarding the short video in the first post do have to applaud the guy asking the questions - bravo.





ancienlight is spot on with the gaslighting description.
Gaslighting involves more than just lying. It's a psychological game.
It involves building a false narrative, and deceiving ones victims for what can often be long periods of time.



posted on Oct, 7 2023 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem
Do you know what happens when you catch someone in a lie, and present the documentation and evidence to them? Thats when the kid gloves come off. Thats when you will begin to see the real nature of your government. Thats when the # will hit the fan, and guess which side of the fan we will be on?

Why would you expect them to be held to account ?
Total free pass so far.

This is just like the Nazis. Same basic crimes, same excuses after.

We killed the Nazis (well, the non-engineers lol).

That was then, this is now. Now we will let them go scot free.



posted on Oct, 7 2023 @ 11:52 PM
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Semantics... take a new job drive 4300 miles 5 days later get told decide on which one your getting or else.

toddler and a wife depending on me I had no choice.

Feckers



posted on Oct, 7 2023 @ 11:58 PM
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originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: visitedbythem
Do you know what happens when you catch someone in a lie, and present the documentation and evidence to them? Thats when the kid gloves come off. Thats when you will begin to see the real nature of your government. Thats when the # will hit the fan, and guess which side of the fan we will be on?

Why would you expect them to be held to account ?
Total free pass so far.

This is just like the Nazis. Same basic crimes, same excuses after.

We killed the Nazis (well, the non-engineers lol).

That was then, this is now. Now we will let them go scot free.


Perhaps.

But the Living God wont. There is a price to pay for bloody hands.



posted on Oct, 8 2023 @ 01:09 AM
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originally posted by: burntheships

Not only did they FORCE the vaccine, they caused those who refused to be fired, ostracized, fined, even jailed.



Good to see you my friend and yes they certainly did.

Have transcribed the Committee questioner's statement from the video - it just about sums things up.

It probably should be read twice by everyone - out loud if possible.





• "Mr Parker you're one of a number now of officials in this administration who have come before this committee and tried to tell us that two plus two doesn't equal four.

Sitting in the chair that you're in now the secretary of education testified, gave false testimony, to this committee denying that he had promoted a student vaccine mandate when he had done precisely that.

Sitting in the chair that you're sitting in now the secretary of health and human services made one of the most outlandish statements ever entered into the congressional record, which is saying quite a lot, when he said 'we never forced anyone to do anything' in relation to the widely discredited policy of forcing children as young as two years old to wear masks..

..and now you come before us today, asked about one of the most sweeping abuses of power that we've seen, that was rebuked by the Supreme Court, and you tell us that 'we didn't demand that anyone be fired'.

So has there been some sort of memo going around?

Why is the administration insistent on rewriting history?"


Video




Honestly think if this doesn't wake people up to blatant government deception then nothing will.




posted on Oct, 8 2023 @ 01:50 AM
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originally posted by: incoserv

I only have a two-word response to this, but I'd probably be banned for posting it.




I can use my imagination mate and I think a great many people feel the same way.. whatever their political orientation.

From the original article:




Did you hear this? They are actually saying with straight faces that they didn’t force you to wear a mask, or lock down and shutter your businesses, or choose between taking an experimental drug or losing your job… Nope! They did none of that. And you – well, you are flat out crazy if you think they did. You are lying. You are exaggerating and totally overreacting.




Reckon Jeffrey Tucker hit the nail right on the head with this statement:




• "The more these official institutions engage in this crazy form of denialism, the more they discredit themselves."

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posted on Oct, 8 2023 @ 05:51 AM
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The cowards way out ought to underline the distinction between "in charge' and "leader". In Kanada, The Narcissist cannot take anything on the chin. He slides out under the backdoor on anything, yet, in The House of Commons, periodically he has tantrums when cornered, quick to ensconse himself in a cloak of self righteousness.....on matters NOT proven yet because of the ongoing worldwide brainwash, it sounds and looks legit. TURDeau is the epitome of today's yellow streak painted across the world on those that worship any number of false idols or unseen dieties. The religion of woke is real and TURDeau is a High Priest of sorts. He forced Kanada to take the jab. He forced Kanada to reveal the effect of never having to fight for freedom. And he uses the smaltzy tune of Canadiana to hypnotize the obedient masses time and again.

TURDeau looks nothing like Pierre. Make of that what you will. But at least back in the day Pierre had the guts to overtly show Canadians the bird, if even from a moving train. InJustin hasn't got the stuff to do that. He did it another way, and he hides behind words such as "we" and "Canadians'....as if we were all in agreement.



posted on Oct, 8 2023 @ 06:04 AM
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affirmation looking for a second is all I know of America



posted on Oct, 8 2023 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: TheLieWeLive
So there's compartmentalize lying and blaming these days how convenient for themselves



posted on Oct, 8 2023 @ 06:16 AM
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a reply to: markovian

A guy from Canada was just allowed to die despite having two suitable donors, because he was not transfected with the mRNA shot. AND while he lay there dying, organ harvesting companies had the nerve to ask for his organs.


As reported by independent journalist Monique Leal, two of Harper’s brothers were willing to donate their kidneys, but hospitals wouldn’t even consider it given the fact Harper wouldn’t reveal his vaccination status to them.

During Harper’s last moments alive, while on life support, his wife Meghan Harper was told by nurses at the hospital to expect a call from Trillium Gift of Life Network (TGLN) — an organ donation agency.


T ake it or die



posted on Oct, 8 2023 @ 06:53 AM
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originally posted by: Glitterjunk
a reply to: markovian

A guy from Canada was just allowed to die despite having two suitable donors, because he was not transfected with the mRNA shot. AND while he lay there dying, organ harvesting companies had the nerve to ask for his organs.


As reported by independent journalist Monique Leal, two of Harper’s brothers were willing to donate their kidneys, but hospitals wouldn’t even consider it given the fact Harper wouldn’t reveal his vaccination status to them.

During Harper’s last moments alive, while on life support, his wife Meghan Harper was told by nurses at the hospital to expect a call from Trillium Gift of Life Network (TGLN) — an organ donation agency.


T ake it or die


I can tell you that courage and thinking on one's feet are in short order in Kanada.
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posted on Oct, 8 2023 @ 06:55 AM
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a reply to: karl 12

they are running away from their comments like roaches when the light comes on. They will probably say they never claimed natural immunity wasn't as good as the shot as well. When you lie for a living, it's easy, just watch them.



posted on Oct, 8 2023 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: Glitterjunk
a reply to: markovian

A guy from Canada was just allowed to die despite having two suitable donors, because he was not transfected with the mRNA shot. AND while he lay there dying, organ harvesting companies had the nerve to ask for his organs.


As reported by independent journalist Monique Leal, two of Harper’s brothers were willing to donate their kidneys, but hospitals wouldn’t even consider it given the fact Harper wouldn’t reveal his vaccination status to them.

During Harper’s last moments alive, while on life support, his wife Meghan Harper was told by nurses at the hospital to expect a call from Trillium Gift of Life Network (TGLN) — an organ donation agency.


T ake it or die

Absolutely despicable, the lowest of lowest pond scum , there are just no words the anger I'm feeling right now



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