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Vaccinations and Autism

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posted on Jul, 22 2020 @ 03:56 AM
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Hiding in Plain Sight | HHS Corruption and Law and Order


This interview by Steel Truth is with Catharine Layton, the COO of ICAN. It discusses some of the main issues outlined in this court case. Conflicts of interest in HHS over vaccination safety and lack of quality science in measuring the effects of vaccinations.

When it comes to why HHS has not done a study in measuring the health between the vaccinated and unvaccinated children, Catharine quotes Anthony Fauci "It is not going to happen".



posted on Jul, 23 2020 @ 10:03 AM
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Heated Vaccine Debate - Kennedy Jr. vs Dershowitz


It is a placid debate, solid on facts and a lot of agreement that things are not kosher. With the covid vaccination in the headlines, free choice is the responsible path.

I know this issue sucks, what hurts more, the disease or the cure? As a parent, i am highly resistant to any vaccination before 3 years of age. From the numbers I can see things do not add up. As we get older, whatever, has not killed me yet. Personally I will pass on this years flu vaccination. Consult your own doctor with medical decisions.



posted on Jul, 24 2020 @ 09:12 PM
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The following link is to a 2009 discussion paper supported by the World Health Organization.

Observations on Vaccination Production Technologies and Factors Potentially Influencing Pandemic Influenza Vaccine Choice in Developing Countries


While the scientific merit of these criticisms is debated - the compounds have passed regulatory review in many countries - where concerns exist it would be inappropriate to ignore the potential disruption to vaccination campaigns due to widespread worry over adjutant safety.
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Bill Gates wants to WHAT! Depopulation Through Vaccines and Healthcare!



Now if we do a really good job on new vaccines, healthcare, reproductive services, we can lower that (global population) by 10-15%.



posted on Jul, 24 2020 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: kwakakev

If you want to get a child immunized and believe the child will be protected, surely its up to you and your conscience, as believing the jargon the kid isn't going to get the disease if vaccinated. Then by not getting the vaccination, it wont worry those who have. So what's the big deal.



posted on Jul, 24 2020 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

Vaccinations are not 100% effective. None of them.
Some children, not many, cannot be immunized, due to allergic reaction.
But the more people who are immunized, the lower the chances of running into a person who is infected.

Surely you are aware of this. If you have actually looked at all sides. It's not really that complicated.


edit on 7/24/2020 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2020 @ 11:51 PM
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a reply to: Phage

O yes , but the moment we have the big boys making the money, it always industrializes. Why if its so effective do they have to have immunity from being sued?



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 12:40 AM
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a reply to: anonentity



If you want to get a child immunized and believe the child will be protected, surely its up to you and your conscience


Not here in Australia. If you are one of the few that can afford to not rely on any government or public services then there is an option for the parent to decide. For the rest of us that have to send their kids to childcare or a public school then vaccinations are mandatory.

There are lots of big deals. The USA department of Health and Human Services is conflicted in both researching vaccination safety and defending against vaccination damage. Why are there no studies that measure the health between vaccinated and unvaccinated children? Why are vaccination companies free of liability and not held to the same standards as other medications?

When the risk of death from measles is 1 in 10 000 while autism rates are 1 in 36, where would you put your money?

I understand working with disease is full of pain and suffering. The more I look for the facts that vaccinations are doing more good than bad, the more I see science conflicted with economic incentives.
edit on 25-7-2020 by kwakakev because: spelling



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 12:48 AM
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a reply to: anonentity




Why if its so effective do they have to have immunity from being sued?

Because the federal government holds the authority for approval and individual lawsuits would make it impossible for vaccine manufacturers to do business.

“Vaccine manufacturers fund from their sales an informal, efficient compensation program for vaccine injuries; in exchange they avoid costly tort litigation and the occasional disproportionate jury verdict. Congress enacted this deal to coax manufacturers back into the vaccine market,” Scalia said.


Remember Scalia? Real radical dude.



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 01:07 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Remember the old days that's what universities were for with the top professors in the relevant field doing real research and trials. All i see these days is a corporate entity controlling the narrative and politicians for making a load of money taken from the public purse, that's why were going down ,crony capitalism was never that sustainable, if you have to force people to take a vaccine. Its basically over.



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 01:18 AM
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a reply to: anonentity

I think you have no notion of the costs of R&D.

Or are you a socialist or something?



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 02:56 AM
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a reply to: Phage

How much did the major drug which saved more lives than any other cost, being penicillin, not very much, even with inflation adjustments. As far as socialism goes ,at least half the economy has got to be on infra structure and basics, and the rest capitalistic, or you will end up with some type of social breakdown. Like we are seeing at the moment.



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 05:26 AM
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I think you have no notion of the costs of R&D.


This is a big part of the problem. The system we have does help address the funding issues of medical research. it also leads to conflicts where funds are directed based on the views of those with the pay checks.

A basic premise of capitalism is to reward good work and discourage lazy or bad work. Corruption has many forms and affects every aspect of society. When it comes to accounting the full social costs of vaccinations, how can a lower class family struggling with the issues of autism compare to large multinational organization?

The vaccination courts are paying out some damages, a small part of the real costs by some accounts. When it comes to forming national policy just how thorough are our governments in getting a true picture of the costs and benefits?



posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 09:21 AM
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Fauci on How to Deal w/ Anti-Vaxers



We want to make sure that we are very transparent. People appreciate that, speed is not compromising safety, nor is it compromising scientific integrity.

Health official and political leaders will also have to deal with those people that don't believe that any vaccinations are safe. As well as those with anti science views as well as people that just don't want to be told what to do.

Those are all obstacles we have to take head on and we have got to make as much open honest and transparent outreach to the community to convince them that getting vaccinated is for their benefit and the benefit of the community.


Anyone who questions is an obstacle to deal with? All sounds a bit creepy to me.

Bill Gates Agenda 21 Exposed!!!! He Speaks The Truth!! Listen and Spread The Gospel Truth!!!


I like this guy. With science we get to understand different parts of this world. The closer we can get to the truth, the clearer the picture of how it all works. I see god as everything that makes this world. The better we get at science, the clearer our full picture of god becomes.



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 01:45 PM
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Widely cited hydroxychloroquine study is ‘flawed’, Fauci tells hearing


So Mr Anthony Fauci,

If a randomized, double blind, placebo controlled trial is the only standard in setting policy during an immediate public health emergency, why is this not done for vaccinations?



posted on Aug, 11 2020 @ 06:09 AM
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Pfizer Executive Arrested for Child Porn Production.


Executive Arrested For Child Pornography


This is just one more example of the class of society that is running Pharmaceutical companies and making vaccines.

When the U.S. gov. chooses to give money to the most criminal organization in the history of the U.S., you should realize that they are not doing it for your safety!

Pfizer should never be trusted to be producing any product given to anyone, especially children!


This case is one of 409 for Pfizer with things like child pornography, lying, false claims act. Pfizer does have a strong reputation in the courts for lying, cheating and deceiving people, doctors and the government. It has been in their economic benefit to undertake this policy. The relationships between government funding and pharmaceutical funding is very intertwined.

Is this a reason for your silence Mr Anthony Fauci?

These are large companies and do not expect all of its employees to be acting in bad faith. When its leadership does, Huston, we have a problem.



posted on Aug, 12 2020 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: kwakakev
Widely cited hydroxychloroquine study is ‘flawed’, Fauci tells hearing

So Mr Anthony Fauci,

If a randomized, double blind, placebo controlled trial is the only standard in setting policy during an immediate public health emergency, why is this not done for vaccinations?


It's Dr. Fauci.

Your sources aren't very informed about how we get vaccines to the public. In fact, there are double blind placebo controls on vaccines -- Clinicaltrials.gov lists over 9,000 current trials: clinicaltrials.gov...

In addition, we have over 120 years of data... including on children like myself, who were military dependents and got far more vaccinations than the rest of you ever got (including with mercury and all sorts of stuff.)



posted on Aug, 13 2020 @ 03:22 AM
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a reply to: Byrd

Thanks for that, will try to keep it civil.

Have been looking through a few of the studies, somnolence and irritability look to be common side effects. Occasionally there are more significant cognitive reactions with conditions like hypotonia and convulsion.

Could only find 2 studies that looked at vaccinations and autism. One is still in the process of looking at gut bacteria. The other does not have any results available.

For a different study on the vaccination issues:
Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?


The infant mortality rate (IMR) is one of the most important indicators of the socio-economic well-being and public health conditions of a country. The US childhood immunization schedule specifies 26 vaccine doses for infants aged less than 1 year—the most in the world—yet 33 nations have lower IMRs. Using linear regression, the immunization schedules of these 34 nations were examined and a correlation coefficient of r = 0.70 (p < 0.0001) was found between IMRs and the number of vaccine doses routinely given to infants.

edit on 13-8-2020 by kwakakev because: Added clarification of different study



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: Serdgiam
Its a fascinating phenomena. The level of trust that people have in this specific business industry is staggering. Its like some just assume there are altruistic motives there, where they dont exist in any other industry.

Exactly. It is like a religion to blindly pro-vaxxers.



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 01:32 PM
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originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: kwakakev
Widely cited hydroxychloroquine study is ‘flawed’, Fauci tells hearing

So Mr Anthony Fauci,

If a randomized, double blind, placebo controlled trial is the only standard in setting policy during an immediate public health emergency, why is this not done for vaccinations?


It's Dr. Fauci.

Your sources aren't very informed about how we get vaccines to the public. In fact, there are double blind placebo controls on vaccines -- Clinicaltrials.gov lists over 9,000 current trials: clinicaltrials.gov...

In addition, we have over 120 years of data... including on children like myself, who were military dependents and got far more vaccinations than the rest of you ever got (including with mercury and all sorts of stuff.)


Yeah I thought most of us got tons of vaccinations back in the 80's and 90's. Coming through school, only one guy had autism. There were several ADD and ADHD kids though, not nearly as many as there are these days, but those were easily corrected with a belt. Me and my sister were vaccinated, my 5 kids were vaccinated, her 2 kids were vaccinated, etc. We're all fine.



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018
Well I am sure you will be fine then.




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