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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: JesseVentura
Position like this, which demonstrate how strongly you support socialist policy, will ensure that you never "sit at that table" in Orlando, Jesse Ventura.
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There is absolutely NO rationale for an individual to consider themselves a Libertarian while endorsing the single payer system. My God, single payer is even more draconian and Big-brotherish than Obamacare is... "Give the money to the government and they will provide for us." I believe you need to look for a table at the statist party whenever and wherever they hold their nominee party.
originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: JesseVentura
Would you support universal healthcare?
No, I would not, however, I would support reform that would make it more affordable.
every American has the right to health...
I don't recall reading about that in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. Could you please reference the section of our founding documents that state our right to health care? I wasn't able to find it using Google.
originally posted by: boohoo
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
Some of these are an idea from 1976 or 1977, I was a debator in HS, and one year the topic was National Health Care, with the statistics published then we funded it through the legalization and taxation of weed and prostitution, regulations would need to put in place, but almost 40 years later I think it is an idea that needs to be looked at.
NOBODY, with real power, wants to be the one whom starts a domino effect that will lead to a 21st century equivalent of the period that followed the passage of the 13th Amendment. A single payer healthcare system would eliminate a big portion of the general populations need and desire to work for employers as non-exempt employees. Meaning, the country would have a few years of absolute chaos in the labor markets, as people choose to suddenly not work for big government or big business as Full Time Equivalent employees. Contracting departments all over the country would not be able to handle the significantly increased load of incoming contract workers that immediately quit working, full-time, upon the introduction of a Single Payer Heath Insurance system. In states without robust healthcare policies, hospitals would be overloaded, private companies would become understaffed, billable hourly rates would drop in all sectors and state/local tax revenues would fall.
The introduction of a Single Payer Healthcare system in the 21st century USA, will be akin to the USA freeing slaves in the 19th century and the consequences of doing such won't be all that much different from what was experienced back then either.
That is why nobody with any money or power is doing anything about this and why we got the convoluted ACA instead of Single Payer.
originally posted by: boohoo
The "concept" of Single-Payer is not merely a simple left or right leaning "ideology", as you are proposing. It is an actual administrative function, that BOTH conservative and liberal leaders can use EFFECTIVELY when making operational management and policy decisions for large organizations.
Are you opposed to Medicare too?
What kind of education do you have, if any?
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
I have a bachelor's degree in Civil Engineering with minors in math and economics (macroeconomic-centric), am a couple of credits shy of a Master's degree in structural engineering, and would have an honest to god bachelor's in economics if it wasn't for my stubborn refusal to take the foreign language required by the degree program. What's your education (if any)?
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: boohoo
The "concept" of Single-Payer is not merely a simple left or right leaning "ideology", as you are proposing. It is an actual administrative function, that BOTH conservative and liberal leaders can use EFFECTIVELY when making operational management and policy decisions for large organizations.
Are you opposed to Medicare too?
What kind of education do you have, if any?
Where did I mention left or right leaning anything? Libertarianism = LIBERTY! You get out of life what YOU put into it.
In idealized theory, Medicare is a system which all workers pay into and have available to them, commensurate to what they paid in, after the age of 65. I am opposed to Medicaid and to Medicare being used for ANYONE who did not pay into it, yes.
I have a bachelor's degree in Civil Engineering with minors in math and economics (macroeconomic-centric), am a couple of credits shy of a Master's degree in structural engineering, and would have an honest to god bachelor's in economics if it wasn't for my stubborn refusal to take the foreign language required by the degree program. What's your education (if any)?
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: BubbaJoe
my question would be that in reality, it cost the slaveholders more to buy and sustain their slaves than the northern states spent on their labor, so I kind of think that its a wrong assumption in that part.
As Gov. Jesse Ventura prepares to leave office, he ends a term that saw one of the most dramatic four-year shifts in Minnesota's financial picture. Ventura inherited a $4 billion surplus, and leaves office with the state facing a $4.5 billion deficit. Will he be remembered as the man at the helm when the state's economy took a nosedive? Or as a competent CEO who left a lasting stamp on state government?
The basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are considered to be entitled, often held to include the rights to LIFE, liberty, equality, and a fair trial, freedom from slavery and torture, and freedom of thought and expression.
every American has the right to health...
originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: JesseVentura
I don't recall reading about that in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. Could you please reference the section of our founding documents that state our right to health care? I wasn't able to find it using Google.