DNA analysis of Paracas skulls found to be human-like creature.

The skulls were first found in 1928 graveyard with tombs filled with skeletons of individuals
with the largest skulls found on the planet.



Head binding from birth is the usual way skulls like this was formed but maybe not this time.

"It had mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far. But a few fragments I was able to sequence from this sample indicate that if these mutations will hold we are dealing with a new human-like creature, very distant from Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans."

The implications are of cause huge. “I am not sure it will even fit into the known evolutionary tree,” wrote Foerster. He added that if the Paracas individuals were so biologically different, they would not have been able to interbreed with humans.

Foester has not yet released the full details of the DNA analysis. We will update when more details emerge.

Ancient Origins

If this is right then not only do we have a new breed of human this might be where the idea
of head binding first started from as humans wanted to copy the shape of the skulls that the
Paracas had.

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If that is really a discreet genus, it's an absolutely huge discovery.

Looking forward to more on this.

They would have needed a very large breeding population to sustain the species. Should be other evidence if this finding is correct.

Color me skeptical...

From the OP article:

The samples were sent to the late Lloyd Pye, founder of the Starchild Project, who delivered the samples to a geneticist in Texas for DNA testing.

Did Lloyd Pye ever come across a skull that WAS human? This Pye character was a charlatan as far as I am concerned.

Pimpintology
They would have needed a very large breeding population to sustain the species. Should be other evidence if this finding is correct.

Most likely they where killed by us, we don't like ''different''.
Many bodies of them are found with ropes, like some prisoners (likely the last survivers of them). Also such skulls have found in different places, like Russia and ancient egypt.

Anyways here a great link with tons of photo's for those interested of many of those skulls and skeletons:

www.facebook.com...

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I love Brien Foerster's work!! I follow him on FB and I love what he posts. He is very interactive with people on his page. He posts so many pictures of places I've never seen. I have two of his books that I'm reading right now along with a third book by an ATS member on a place in France.

I was wondering when I'd see this pop up on ATS! I thought about it myself but I don't have the time to keep up with it lately.

Thanks for sharing and I'll save this thread and follow up. If he posts anything new in regards to this I'll be sure to share it here if it hasn't been already.

This is awesome. I wonder if they are of ET decent? The could be of the race of "gods" that humans were created from. Probably why you see the head binding in so many other ancient civilizations around the globe to emulate them. So much mystery, I love it.

S&F!!!

this is a quote from lloyd pye's wiki

"Pye was born in Houma, Louisiana, to Lloyd A. Pye Sr., an optometrist (c.1922 - 2007), and Nina Jo Pye (née Boyles); Lloyd Pye had two brothers.[13][14] He earned a football scholarship to Tulane University in New Orleans as a Running back/Punter from 1964–1968.[15][16] He was the Tulane Green Wave football team's leading punter 1967-1968.[17] He graduated in 1968 with a B.S. in psychology and joined the U.S. Army as a military intelligence specialist. He later lived in Pensacola."

en.wikipedia.org...

just seemed kinda interesting.

Brien Foerster...Another Snake oil salesman. Read my book, it's the truth i tells ye.

Soloprotocol
Brien Foerster...Another Snake oil salesman. Read my book, it's the truth i tells ye.

Seriously?? I'm sorry but people like you annoy me to no end.

Do you dedicate your life to ANYTHING? I doubt it. So what he sells books, big friggin deal. I have bought two of his books and they are great. Are they 100% accurate? Probably not but it gives me A LOT to work with. I don't see you contributing anything to this type of study.

He has dedicated his life to this part of the world and these studies. How dare you cheapen what he does just because he sells books.

Another great new discovery that will be swept under the rug like so many others. A fleet of these people could come in the dozens and it still wouldn't convince the non believers. There are so many things we haven't seen or even know about, so we shouldn't be quick to discredit. When there are no more options for explanation, then the unknown must be a possibility. People must start thinking outside of the box, that's the only way how we'll evolve to a higher level.

LeatherNLace
Color me skeptical...

From the OP article:

The samples were sent to the late Lloyd Pye, founder of the Starchild Project, who delivered the samples to a geneticist in Texas for DNA testing.

Did Lloyd Pye ever come across a skull that WAS human? This Pye character was a charlatan as far as I am concerned.

The ONLY skull Lloyd Pye 'worked with' was the Starchild Skull, which was given to him by a woman who was a NICU nurse and recognized it as completely anomalous. She was given the skull by the original finder of it. It had spent years in a cardboard box in a garage until then and only when Pye took it over was the very expensive research on it started. You only need to look at the Starchild skull website to realize how different it is (and ask yourself why Wikipedia refuses to allow an open discussion of the skull and almost instantly takes down anything of a balanced nature discussing it).

Before his death recently, Pye worked with Brien Foerster investigating the very strange skulls in Peru but only to the extent of using the same DNA research people.

Your nasty comment about Lloyd Pye, especially so soon after his death, simply shows how little you know about either man and the wonderful research they both have done.

Ask yourself why 'mainstream' science isn't interested in these skulls? Just looking at them you can realize they're not normal.

I'm calling bs on this, the science of DNA analysis has advanced so much in the last couple of years, that any current study would have vast amounts of info in the report.
Things such as, what haplogroup the individuals belong to , what specific mutation and there locations whithin the genome.

S&F for bringing this to us. I know someone who has seen one of these skulls in person and there was no evidence of binding on the skull. The person has the necessary schooling in this field also. Of course, he does not try to challenge the science governing this because he wants to retain his credentials.

mblahnikluver

Soloprotocol
Brien Foerster...Another Snake oil salesman. Read my book, it's the truth i tells ye.

Seriously?? I'm sorry but people like you annoy me to no end.

And Gullible people like you feed these people.... Ever read Von Daniken....Another BS Artist...

Soloprotocol

mblahnikluver

Soloprotocol
Brien Foerster...Another Snake oil salesman. Read my book, it's the truth i tells ye.

Seriously?? I'm sorry but people like you annoy me to no end.

And Gullible people like you feed these people.... Ever read Von Daniken....Another BS Artist...

Eh...one's theory and belief isn't necessarily BS. It's just another way to look at things. Einsteins theory on relatively will someday be BS. What we don't know doesn't mean it isn't or can't be true. One must open their minds to the possibility...doesn't mean you have to agree with it. My short time on this planet has only increased each day the possibility of anything can happen.

punkinworks10
I'm calling bs on this, the science of DNA analysis has advanced so much in the last couple of years, that any current study would have vast amounts of info in the report. Things such as, what haplogroup the individuals belong to , what specific mutation and there locations whithin the genome.

There is a conspicuous lack of detail here. As you point out, as long as a good sample is obtained, there's a huge amount of specificity that can be obtained in standard DNA test these days. "Human-like?" Well, I suppose humans can be quite human-like.

The guy is dealing with "fragments" of sequences from bad samples. No wonder he's getting crap results.

Soloprotocol

mblahnikluver

Soloprotocol
Brien Foerster...Another Snake oil salesman. Read my book, it's the truth i tells ye.

Seriously?? I'm sorry but people like you annoy me to no end.

And Gullible people like you feed these people.... Ever read Von Daniken....Another BS Artist...

I'm gullible because I read someone's books? Ok sure that makes sense. I'm gullible because I read.

Do you read anything or do you just run your mouth? Do you know how to read and then make your own conclusions with what has been presented in front of you? I know I do. So please don't judge someone you clearly don't know. You are just an angry person because someone doesn't agree with you.

I have never read anything by Von Daniken. I don't really have much of an opinion on him but I do respect the time he has put into such topics. I would rather listen to these guys than that idiot Hawass ANY DAY.

Its always the same.
Even if something truly unique really was found, it gets buried by tons of disbelief, or worse!
Some argue that they didn't give the artifacts to a "credible mainstream" lab, well of course they didn't! if they had done so, the skulls would have never ever been seen again!

I have heard of people finding the odd artifact here and there, then taking it to a museum or a large scientific conglomerate and stuff mysteriously vanishes, or is buried under bureaucracy or simply ignored and filed.

Fact is, that the Scientific Dogma is nowadays treated as a belief system and not a way of empowering true knowledge, if something is found that does not fit the norm, it will get boycotted, and for the me the worse part is that we the general public have become so jaded that we are the first ones to ignore it.

The few that care or are doing something and paying research with their own pocket are called phonies, go figure.

Sadly most of our modern scientific research is done only to make a profit or to develop profitable devices, and nothing more...

Im sure we will know soon enough!, but first people have to care about it!

TheOneEyedProphet
Even if something truly unique really was found, it gets buried by tons of disbelief, or worse!
Some argue that they didn't give the artifacts to a "credible mainstream" lab, well of course they didn't! if they had done so, the skulls would have never ever been seen again!

What, this old argument again?

Its always the same.

No kidding. No wonder exiting new things and discoveries aren't revealed and confirmed every single day. Oh, wait! They are! If they're legitimate.