Ancient Sites & Monuments Aligned To "Ancient Equator"

reply to post by jeep3r


Excellent premise, very interesting. Both poles have buried tropical levels, suggesting they were in an equatorial position in another age. Not sure how to get around that fact.

F&S&

reply to post by jeep3r


I wonder if you constrict the Earth via reverse expanding earth theory if they might still align?

Or what other alignments might occur.

Then again....that happened a long long time ago if at all....

reply to post by soficrow


If that is the case then what are the theories surrounding that premise?

Did the crust of the Earth maybe shift? Or the Planet itself (seems more logical)?

reply to post by LightAssassin


You mean continental drift? Perhaps that would prevent us from reaching back too far in Earth's history to explain these alignments. What period would we be talking about (minimum?) to make a difference, perhaps something in the range of 100k+ years?

reply to post by jeep3r


No, I was thinking more along the lines of the below:



But yes, continental drift could prohibit us from reaching back that far if continental drift does indeed exist....and yes, something like that age would be accurate...which is where Slayer69 may be headed with his next response

reply to post by LightAssassin


Thanks for bringing this in, LightAssassin! I've heard of the expanding Earth theory before ... it's an interesting alternative concept!

Although in both cases (as you mentioned) the period of time in question would probably not alter the 'ancient equator' (see OP) all too much ... but interesting, nevertheless!

reply to post by jeep3r


Actually, thinking about it...you'd have to go back a lot further based off the Pangaea theory....I'd hazard a guess that the planet wasn't all that different in shape and land mass position than it was today say 100,000+ years ago. That type of continental drift, or even the expanding earth theory would happen more over the span of millions of years.

Which draws us to the original question.....Was this the ancient equatorial line? If so what caused the shift? And what type of shift was it? Was it crust displacement as proposed by Hapgood, or was it a total planetary shift? Was this the event that caused the biblical accounts of flooding (and various accounts around the world of a similar event)?

reply to post by jeep3r


I do remember watching a YouTube video that showed the ancient writing at these sites along that line are all similar but separated by distance and time. They go along to show examples of these glyphs that look incredibly similar and it was fascinating to see. I think it was called secrets of the great pyramid, it was narrated by a British actor named Brian something....he was in that movie Red as the lover of that old blonde hit woman lol

reply to post by AliceBleachWhite


So how do we explain the alignments then, pure coincidence? How do we explain the sites that are exactly opposite to each other geographically? Pure luck?

This is where I wonder if something capable of viewing the scope of our planet has indeed done so and then assisted civilizations along that line.

Either way.....it is weird and requires a better answer than coincidence.

the dead never give up they're secrets the majority of people in the ancient world where illiterate and superstitious, just like me and 99.9 percent of the people today ! people are the same today as they were then. the internet just allows us access to more and varied superstitions to styme our illiteracy even more. I can agree with the OP's supposition that a lot of ancient ruins align with a single line of bearing drawn on a sphere. but what does that have to do with the equator ? the only spatial similarities i can see about ancient ruins is they occur in the mostly temperate zones of the Earth, where most humans live anyway. maybe geodetic prEecession was more severe in the olden days. i don't know. but as far as lost civilizations? pretty sure i'm living in one right now ! star for the poster. for making me dredge up some of the stuff Mr. Goff taught me in high school geology class ! to me if it makes ya think, it's a good post !

soficrow
reply to post by jeep3r

 

Excellent premise, very interesting. Both poles have buried tropical levels, suggesting they were in an equatorial position in another age. Not sure how to get around that fact.

F&S&

thinking in geological time always, always messes with our angry monkey minds. we forget that, and the fact the Earths surface is not anchored nor is the core solid or that the world wobbles, quite badly sometimes. the 'idea' of finding tropical forests at the poles isn't too hard to accept if you consider the tectonic activity on this planet has been tearing apart and shuffling the land masses for long, long, long time. these concepts that time and tide (i speak of the molten core beneath the tectonic plates) plus precession and a very unsettled solar system at the time landmasses and plant life were starting to co-exist might have made for some pretty sketchy continental drifts. plus the Earth was spinning a whole lot faster back then. when talking about something as big as a planet, a whole lot faster is relative i know. but inertia is a great architect !

AliceBleachWhite

While this is a fun idea, one must sacrifice all the CURRENT speculations about star alignment, winter and solar solstice alignments, and every other positional alignment deemed Canon in both accepted paradigm AND fringe speculations.

Why?

Because if the Earth had an alternate equator, then, the Sun, Moon, Stars, and every other everything in the sky would rise and set at completely different positions in the sky.

Probably the last major impact event that could have had a significant effect on equatorial location was 65 Million years ago.

Otherwise, we'd need an extremely significant Chandler Wobble event to occur and a deviation that drastic would cause every ocean on the planet to slosh, basically destroying everything, not to mention the slosh results that would occur with magma chambers, and other places of liquified rock which would likely result in wide ranging Continental Flood Basalt events.

Basically, a change that big would result in the extinction of most life on the planet, similar the Permian-Triassic extinction event which had the Siberian Traps Flood Basalt to thank for some of that.

I enthusiastically encourage some study in Geology and Planetary Physics as opposed to going straight for the box of crayons to draw lines all over the planet because it looks cool.

...Not to mention that there would be evidence of magnetic pole movements/reversals in ancient lavas, and ice core data would definitely record such an event if it happened in the last 450,000 years...

...although...

Angkor Wat in Cambodia has been shown to also have ancient lines running along this potential equator, as well as a couple sites in South America that are more than 13,000 years old.

Hmmm...

BACKGROUND

WHAT WE (think we) KNOW (most information gleaned from cosmictusk.com... , though all the frantic, exaggerated conjecture and hyperbole are mine):

About 12,800 years ago a comet entered the solar system and was deflected into a short orbit by one of the big gas giants, and also shattered into a huge stream of smaller particles by the interaction. The remains of this comet exist today as the Taurid meteor shower.

This comet stream was intercepted by Earth, first from a southerly direction - which caused a massive burning of most vegetation on the North American continent (and some in Europe and Mexico/South America as well) creating a 'black mat'...and on its way back around the sun, it blasted the North pole and Canada/North America again, flash-melting as much as 7 million cubic miles of ice - causing world-wide flooding and a raising of the ocean depths by as much as 400 feet.

For the next 1300 years, this cometary stream bombarded Earth regularly, though never again in quite as impressive a manner; and after that it continued to affect the Earth sporadically (and it yet threatens Earth, though won't be a major factor again for some time yet). It hit Earth with such frightening regularity that the remaining peoples of the world saw the pattern and could predict when it would come, and they built massive monuments capable of predicting the return of these comet streams - monuments like the Pyramids, Baalbek, Stonehenge, the Mayan ruins etc. People in Europe also built a massive tunnel system that they used to escape burnination from above, and this system is being archaeologically examined today.

SO - anyway, about the equatorial thing: now tell me, what would happen to the Earth if, say, 7 million cubic miles of ice were to suddenly be flash-melted, and all of this water inundated the oceans (and land!) the world-over nearly instantaneously? Could this be enough mass moving at once to throw off the world's axis, especially when in concert with cometary bombardments directly on the poles (the evidence of which is just now being discovered: Corossol crater, etc. - though most of what happened would have not been recorded due to the ablating of the ice sheets, and the constant rearrangements by tidal action of moving masses of water and later cometary bombardment)?

Yeah, yeah as I said, the magnetic pole reversals would have been recorded etc...but what if the magnetics of the Earth didn't move right away, but instead they stayed where they were and only really started moving again - like, lately? And about the ice cores in Antarctica - what if Antarctica only moved within the Antarctic circle, settling the main mass at the bottom of the Earth? There is some evidence that West Antarctica was warm and wet not long ago, and this area may have stretched over the circle and yet still kept the areas where the ice cores are extracted from frozen. And - one other piece of evidence: Hudson Bay.

No, it is NOT a crater...but...the size of it *is* about what would be expected of an ice mass centered on it, were it actually present where the north pole is today. And it is 'rebounding' today, after the last ice age...could it perhaps have been the north pole not so long ago??

The kicker to this?? It might not have been the north pole for too long...because...there is much evidence that ANOTHER large impact hit the great lakes area, carving out Saginaw bay and creating the Carolina Bays (link: cintos.org... ) ...

Can we say, cyclic catastrophism? I know I had to use the spell checker to spell it right, but I can say it

Just food for thought and discussion!

Becker - Hagen grid??

A Thread on one of my most favorite topics!

I love all the ideas coming in! It's obvious some of you have not been indoctrinated by the standard educational system, and are willing to think outside the box.

I think it's this type of thinking that has the best chance of solving some of these mysteries!

I'd like to try it on Google Earth, too, and possibly find some Chinese monuments on the line.

I'm clueless about the software though. How can I draw a line around the globe on Google Earth?

reply to post by diqiushiwojia


I think it would indeed be interesting to see if ancient sites in China are also linked to other monuments in any way. Getting the path function to work in Google Earth is pretty straight forward:


You need to click on the ruler symbol in the icon bar on top and then activate the path function in the middle of the three options (in the ruler window that pops up). Then you can connect different locations on a path and measure the distances ... hope this helps!

Biigs
This blew my mind when i first heard it and whats extra odd is that the magnetic north pole is around the top part of that angular 60 degree ancient equator.

Good pointer, Biigs ... the difference between geographic north and magnetic north may explain the angle of that equator to some extent, even though I'm not sure if that inclination would be great enough (perhaps it was, at some point in the past?).

Other 'analogies' could be the inclination of the Moon's orbit around Earth, lunar nodes etc. Could those angles correspond more to that ancient equatorial plane?

Image Source: NASA Public Domain

Image Source: Creative Commons 3.0 by Lasunncty

Image Source: Creative Commons 3.0 by Tfr000


Perhaps AliceWhiteBleach could say whether or not any of those aspects could in some way relate to the inclination of that alternative equator. Keywords for looking into this would be Moon Orbit, Ecliptic and Lunar Nodes. Or if anyone else is specialized in astronomy, don't hesitate to let us know if any of this would make any sense ...

This topic is very interesting , so much that I had to join up. There is quite a bit of video research done on this subject available on Youtube. One such channel I recommend is by Jacob Macdonald. Fascinating stuff!

The Evolution Of My Research (In Chronological Order)
www.youtube.com...

RedmoonMWC
reply to post by jeep3r

 

I have seen this presented in a utube vid, I'll see if I can find it again.
FYI moving the equator to this new (old) position puts the North Pole in the approximate area of Prince William Sound in Alaska, USA and moves the south pole approx. 30 degrees north almost completely out of the Antarctic circle.

The question I have had is if this was the old Equator, what happens to the alignments that we currently find between these locations and certain star formations, ie the 3 (4) Pyramids at Giza and Orion's Belt the alignment of the great pyramid to the current north pole and Angkor Wats celestial alignment to the constellation of Draco.
The second question I have had is with plate tectonics moving the continents what were the actual alignments in say 10,500 BC or earlier?

Giza Equator Line

edit on 18-1-2014 by RedmoonMWC because: (no reason given)

Tectonic plates move at a rate of 5cm/year, 50cm/decade, 5 metres/century, 50 meters/millenium, 0.5 kilometers/10000 years, 5 kilometers/100,000 years.

So 10000 years ago, won't have upset the alignments too much. And we can trace back where the stars were aligned.

smartwentcrazy
Becker - Hagen grid??

come on people catch up - this site always has recent updates of new megaliths found across the globe so if your interested they have maps up on their site -

www.megalithic.co.uk...

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