Ray Brown Atlantean Crystal Ball. Has it been proven a hoax?

i was watching a documentary from the 70's called in search of... bimini wall, and in the show there was this guy who dived in the bimini area looking for spanish treasures and found a crystal pyramid like those in egypt and a crystal ball. this ball is said to repel metal. what happened to the ball? was it a fake?

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this is the episode in youtube

reply to post by Picollo30


I remember that as well and have always wondered if the guy lied, seems reasonable to think he did since supposedly they never found the place he went again.

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Then, Dr. Brown disappeared off the scene. He died in the early 1990s, and the story of the crystal was mentioned by some, but largely was just “one of those stories”, with no proof, as the fate of the crystal sphere was unknown.

But then some years ago, the crystal – today dubbed by some “The Atlantis Orb” – resurfaced, in the hands of Arthur Fanning, a resident of Sedona (Arizona), who refers to the object as the “Eye of God”.

But...

Greg Little relates that after an appearance on the Coast-to-Coast radio show in which he tackled Brown’s sphere, he received “an email from an elderly man who said he had been a friend of Brown since childhood.

After exchanging a few emails he related that Brown confided to him that the entire affair was a hoax Brown concocted to take advantage of all of the media controversy that had been stirred up by the 1968 discovery of the Bimini Road.

www.philipcoppens.com...

Seems a very 70s hoax to me; but who knows?

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IMHO - you have asked the wrong question , how about any credible evidence of its veracity ?

I remember this very well. The 'guy' was IBM's Crystal Scientist. He and his daughter were diving off Bermuda (I believe it was Bermuda) after a tropical cyclone went through the area turning up the sands. As they were diving, they saw the tip of a pyramid sticking up out of the sand. He went down to look around and found an entrance. In the pyramid, there was a gold spike that came down from the ceiling. It was pointing at a pair of golden hands that were holding the crystal ball in place, just under the point of the spike coming down from the top. He tried to break the gold spike off, but it was too strong. He then turned his attention to the crystal ball. He was able to pluck the crystal ball from the golden hands.

He took the crystal ball home and played with it trying to understand the properties of the crystal. He, and being the IBM Crystal Scientist, could not understand how it was producing and energy field. He took it to the lab and worked on it trying to figure out this energy field. That is when he attached a hunk of metal onto a handle that had a strong coil spring on it. As he pushed the metal toward the crystal ball, it repelled the metal. I saw the in search of show back when it aired. He had it on a table sitting in a basket with a white towel under it. He then brought the hunk of metal with the coil spring attached to a handle out and from above pushed the hunk of metal toward the crystal. It repelled the metal and bent the spring up to where the handle and the part of the spring were bent at about 70 degrees. It was amazing to see. He did the same thing from different sides with the same result. He said in all of his years dealing with crystals, he has never heard of or worked with any crystals that exhibited this type of behavior as if there were a field protecting it.

I had never heard of it again in all these years. I was wondering if the pyramids were truly built around the world and some were buried in a cataclysm like the Atlantis story. Atlantis was supposedly destroyed due to some catastrophe with their technology. There has been theories about the pyramids and obelisks being some type of electrical power or field generator. If this pyramid (which is in the Devil's Triangle - Bermuda Triangle) where many ships and planes disappeared and many more reports of navigation compasses and electronics malfunctioning) was sunken during a catastrophic technological disaster, could the power generation apparatus have been left in its operational mode? The crystal ball was held by two hands under a gold spike. Gold is one of the best electrical conductors available and that is why it is used in electronics and chips. If this crystal was powering the sunken and buried pyramid until it was exposed by the storm and subsequently was found by the Dr., it could have potentially caused all the navigation anomalies that ships and planes reported in the Bermuda Triangle.

Regardless of what you think of the Atlantis story sinking into the sea in one night, someone was building these devices and were using natural materials to make their power generators or whatever this technology was used for.
I happen to believe that this IBM Crystal Scientist was legit and happened upon something that challenged all his beliefs. I suspect after the 'In Search Of' show appeared and he demonstrated the strange properties of the crystal when interacting with metal, he was taken away to a secret lab or base to try and figure out how this crystal was able to give of said power. I don't know what happened to him and his crystal ball, but I suspect he was deaaling with the types that can make a person disappear. They must have seized his crystal ball and who knows what else.

I think mankind went the way of science and technology the wrong way. I think the advanced race that built and used these machines (possibly to terraform Earth) went about science in the natural way. We see the leftover remnants of what these pyramids once were. They are not tombs in my humble opinion. We went about science in a technological way, building machines and computers, etc. This has, and will, bring about trouble. But, that is for another thread. I suspect we will never know the truth about the crystal ball and the technology it powered. I also believe the shadow operatives for the powers that be went after the crystal and technology in their attempt to find a weapon to repel borders or control human minds. Anyway, that is what I think about the situation.

This is such a fascinating story. I believe it, & I apologize in advance that I offer no credible sources or sites, however I could swear I read that the person in possession of the Atlantis crystal ball had to go into hiding.

Such mineral properties are astonishing. I wouldn't doubt that there are many more wondrous stones & other technologies there are waiting after all this chaos settles.



Who knows, maybe it's locked away in some secret societies chests, only to see the light of day after things change. Because you know those dark dudes don't know how to use that sh!t, the ones filled with light, love & acceptance just have to touch,see,hear,taste,smell,sense it, & gates open freely.

May the force be with you~

spirit_horse

I remember this very well. The 'guy' was IBM's Crystal Scientist.

Oh, please!

"Doctor" Ray Brown was a practioner of Naturopathic "medicine" from Mesa Arizona.

In other words, a self-deluded fraud.

Harte

spirit_horse

I remember this very well. The 'guy' was IBM's Crystal Scientist.

What the heck does that even mean? Is that an actual position? Can you prove that? No? Thought so.

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Marcel Vogel − a famous scientist from IBM A famous scientist from IBM, Marcel Vogel spent a large part of his life trying to work out this mystery of crystals. Vogel was one of the greatest inventors who worked for IBM for twenty seven years. He got attracted to crystals while working with Liquid Crystal Displays or LCD as they are called today. While growing liquid crystals, Marcel noticed that the solidified crystal took the shape of the Virgin Mary, because that is what he was thinking while watching the crystals growing under his microscope. This transformation of thought into reality was videotaped again later in his laboratory. This was one of the first scientific evidence of the meta-physical power of the mind manifesting itself in a physical form.

Source

Your right, I was thinking about this guy that looked into the crystal ball some time after it was found. It was a long time ago this first came out.

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Marcel Vogel − A famous scientist from IBM, Marcel Vogel spent a large part of his life trying to work out this mystery of crystals. Vogel was one of the greatest inventors who worked for IBM for twenty seven years. He got attracted to crystals while working with Liquid Crystal Displays or LCD as they are called today. While growing liquid crystals, Marcel noticed that the solidified crystal took the shape of the Virgin Mary, because that is what he was thinking while watching the crystals growing under his microscope. This transformation of thought into reality was videotaped again later in his laboratory. This was one of the first scientific evidence of the meta-physical power of the mind manifesting itself in a physical form.

Source

Your right, I was thinking about this guy that looked into the crystal ball some time after it was found. It was a long time ago this first came out.

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to quote your pseudo scientific source :

Our human body consists of 70 − 80% silicon and water. Quartz crystal is also silicon dioxide (SiO2) and water (H2O).

what utter twaddle

the chemistry of real humans is carbon based - silicon is a trace element in the body

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I didn't read it all, but wow....Not much to say about that. I haven't been doing to well, but no excuses for that at all.

I do think that Dr. Browns crystal ball is for real, but I do not think it is made of quartz crystal but Carbon (as in diamond)
I am 65 years of age and have spent much of my life researching as well as field work investigating strange phenomena
and I have personally seen Giant skeletons and many other ancient peculiarities. What I do know is that rarely does any of this get out to the public because it is suppressed.
Sincerely, Robert [email protected]

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a reply to: omaroliblish

I would definitely recommend that you take your email off here, it is not a good idea at all. If you make a certain amount of posts (20 I think?) you can then send a private message to the person. Just a piece of advice there.

I know more about this than will ever be told ,
and yes the pyramid exists (now covered in sand)
yes he found it. yes he recovered the crystal. yes he
was told never to return

Later on he sold it to a private collector

I cannot see how what I said would be harmful to anyone! a reply to: Jonjonj

I don't think we have thought police in the USA yet!

Omar

a reply to: radarloveguy
Oh not another "I know alot more than will ever be made public" post...............either spit it out or zip it up man.

originally posted by: omaroliblish
I have personally seen Giant skeletons

Where at? Pics or it never happened!

Pictures do not prove anything these days. Most of the "photos" of Giants I have seen on the web are Photoshopped if not all of them!
What would have to happen is for an archaeologist or Anthropologist and a Forensic person, a DNA analyses and to do an organized excavation and retrieval, documentation, step by step and make it public and that is risky business because if politics is against it then the players would be discredited and blackballed.

I have seen this similar scenery more than one time in my life time. At least half of the present elders in Kanab, Utah all remember seeing a Giant in display and someones house back in the 1950's
Sever of my friends have dug them up back then,but now burials are well protected from this and for more reasons than is stated I assure you! Just try to get a permit to excavate one of these Giant burials and see where it goes. Don't take my word for it do it yourself.

It took a very, very long time for the present Egypt to finally do a thorough DNA on the ancient Egyptian Pharaohs
and it mostly was hushed up for politically correct reasons and politics, because so much truth is so hidden these days.
Some of the DNA specialists were put under a gag order by Egypt, but some of them talked anyway, but then again
non of the open talkers have any certified documentation of any of this to show John Q Public as can be expected!

Omar, with the word of experience to the layman in sincerity!


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originally posted by: omaroliblish
I cannot see how what I said would be harmful to anyone! a reply to: Jonjonj

I don't think we have thought police in the USA yet!

Omar

I was simply trying to avoid you getting spammed or abusive emails, as this site is a public forum. As you are new I thought you could use the advice.

Avoid giving out emails