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Dav1d
You asked what another person would do. We happen to have another experience officer there, and we know what he did. No where do I suggest why. Only that he failed to shoot.
You too were not there, yet you claim he was to inexperienced to get into a position where he could fire from. Nothing supports this wild guess. Nor do you have anything that supports your other guesses.
The facts are there was another officer present who was experienced.
That officer did not fire.
The officer that did fire lied to the court as an expert witness on fire arms.
The officer that fired posted in threads where the subject was how to kill and unarmed man and get away with it. Where the consensus was to claim you are afraid for your life and others.
Those are the facts.
dragonridr
...What ever your personal motivations are the fact remains the decision by the other officer not to fire doesnt matter since we dont even know if a decision was mad or the opportunity didnt present itself.
Dav1d
Thank you for demonstrating what a bull head opinionated thug does.
Dav1d
dragonridr
...What ever your personal motivations are the fact remains the decision by the other officer not to fire doesnt matter since we dont even know if a decision was mad or the opportunity didnt present itself.
I don't know what your personal motivation (seeing as how you want to make this about me) is but your claim that it "doesn't matter" when we don't know why he didn't shot is ridiculous. Of course it matters.
Witness report that both officers got out of the car and had there weapons train on the child. I'm willing to assume an eleven year veteran police officer knows how to park his car in such a way that both officers have the child in their sight. I'm also willing to assume that an eleven year veteran police officer isn't on the radio, when he believes there is a possibility his partner life is in danger.
Just like the posters on this thread that won't acknowledge that shooting 8 rounds into a child is more than attempt to stop the child it is the intention to kill the child.
Dav1d
If you follow this story from the beginning you know that Law Enforcement has been spinning this case from the very beginning. The original report said the child had been shot at least once. At that point in time, they knew he had been shot multiple times. You can not set out to minimize the events and downplay the events, and not expect it to matter. This is one of their own, and they are spinning the facts in a way that clearly shows this. If this child had been killed by a civilian we would be getting a very different set of facts. Just like they claimed the officers shouted twice when they acknowledged they where not sure they had even shouted!
They are dribbling out facts in a way that is calculated to minimize the impact and anger.
dragonridr
reply to post by Dav1d
Ive seen alot of people in this thread think this is an opportunity to make there dislike for government or police a public issue.
Dav1d
Interesting note visibly angry people carrying replica guns are walking on the streets of Santa Rosa and guess what? They are not being executed! They are not being killed! The cops have request that they not carry guns on the street, but they don't seem to have any problems telling that they are not real this week. Not one has been killed.... Not one wounded...
OneManArmy
dragonridr
reply to post by Dav1d
Ive seen alot of people in this thread think this is an opportunity to make there dislike for government or police a public issue.
No, a lot of the people in this thread are taking the opportunity to make their dislike for corruption and oppression a public issue. If you ask me, its been a long time coming, and better late than never.
Government is necessary, law enforcement is necessary, the way they carry out those duties is not, its corrupt to the core and its time to clean house. If there is any justice in the world, this poor boys death may lead to some real change, but I doubt it will. Its only when enough people get angry about something that any sort of change might even be a possibility.edit on 201310America/Chicago10pm10pmTue, 29 Oct 2013 14:25:50 -05001013 by OneManArmy because: (no reason given)
Dav1d
Interesting note visibly angry people carrying replica guns are walking on the streets of Santa Rosa and guess what? They are not being executed! They are not being killed! The cops have request that they not carry guns on the street, but they don't seem to have any problems telling that they are not real this week. Not one has been killed.... Not one wounded...
Xcathdra
Because the protestors didn't point a weapon at law enforcement.
Dav1d
Interesting note visibly angry people carrying replica guns are walking on the streets of Santa Rosa and guess what? They are not being executed! They are not being killed! The cops have request that they not carry guns on the street, but they don't seem to have any problems telling that they are not real this week. Not one has been killed.... Not one wounded...
dragonridr
I dont believe police departments shoot protesters ah that would be really bad dont you think?
dragonridr
So what was your point really other then to once again put up irrelevant information to prove your point.
dragonridr
Funny you can allways tell agitators from cooler heads. In fact here i give props to the boys brother letting everyone know the family didnt want violence.
dragonridr
And warned the protesters to please refrain from violence cooler heads resolve things not emotion.
dragonridrIm sure if the officer is guilty hes going to jail but dont convict him before all the facts are known it will be another month or two. Look on the bright side youll have more time to rant and rave how broken the system is.
Henry said he couldn't precisely describe the type of replica weapon Lopez carried because investigators did not include the specific make and model in the police report about the incident.
The weapon had already been booked into evidence and, according to police protocol, couldn't be retrieved without an evidentiary reason just to answer questions from the media.
Source
In response to The Press Democrat's request for a copy of the emergency dispatch recordings of the incident, Henry said investigators had not yet reviewed the recordings.
Henry said that after they do, the police department will discuss the request with the Sonoma County District Attorney's Office, which will ultimately decide whether any criminal wrongdoing took place by any party involved in the shooting.
dragonridr
Yeah no your right peoples personal issues arent involved at all.Hopefully theres more people like me and less like you willing to wait for the facts instead of using this as an opportunity to share your beliefs.
imitator
Dav1d
Interesting note visibly angry people carrying replica guns are walking on the streets of Santa Rosa and guess what? They are not being executed! They are not being killed! The cops have request that they not carry guns on the street, but they don't seem to have any problems telling that they are not real this week. Not one has been killed.... Not one wounded...
When I used to work in the city... if we get a job call in a bad neighborhood we would carry to the hilt.... the thing is we would see kids with bb guns packed in their waistline and see them play with their toy guns etc. dressed in baggy clothes... did we shoot them? Nope!!! We could tell the difference in child's play, as well all the people in the neighborhood could too... did they shoot kids with toys? Nope!
I'd say this guy became a cop so he could shoot someone... I think 10% of those who become cops are like this guy... dunno what causes it, maybe video games or being bullied in high school? I have a ex-friend who joined the military just for that...said to kill someone... sick Mother F'er. I disowned him real quick and warned the military of his intentions...
edit on 30-10-2013 by imitator because: (no reason given)