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Originally posted by shorty
I thought you could work that out yourself.
Originally posted by shorty
I cant say that i have sat down and watched a count have you?
Now please explain to me what happening exactly then.
What i was simply saying is the same type of intimidation and vote buying could be done here.
- Yes.
- No I will not.
Instead trolling or expecting to be spoon-fed
.....especially before you come out with such ludicrous and foolish ill-informed pronouncements about the ease with which you imagine such a massive electoral fraud could be performed in the UK.
- On a country-wide scale, here in the UK, to steal an election, with no-one noticing it?
Originally posted by shorty
Then i advice you to get a social life.
Fine, dont. I have looked it up and got no were fast. YOU TRY IT!!!!!
Trolling? How the hell am i trolling?????
I also think there is a differance between asking to be spoon fed and asking you to explain your argument dont you. How often do you ask me for links? you have in the past. So whats the differance.
Maybe im wring.
But if it can be done there why not here especially when the Labout gov are going to get a helluva lot out of it?
So when did i say no-one would notice it?
There is a growing culture of fear. Younger people may grow up thinking that guns are commonplace. There is a growing gang culture with these gangs often armed with baseball bats and knives.
- I would agree with that.
I just simply can't go along with comments that get this so totally out of proportion and claim the sky is falling down when we still have - as we always have had - a very very low level of gun crime in the UK.
To do otherwise seems absurd and a complete departure from reality to me.
Originally posted by ubermunche
I seem to remember not so many years ago how politicians and social commentators chided people for their fear of violent crime and antisocial behaviour, how in real terms it was far lower than people imagined.
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Crime doubled under the last tory gov and in their final years as they actually saw it fall no matter what they said about it no-one believed them, just as many refuse to believe it now.
Originally posted by shorty
Not the possible future tory gov.
Originally posted by shorty
No way is Labour going to win by a landslide, they will win but not by a land slide.
How was this specifcly refearing to past events.
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Originally posted by shorty
No way is Labour going to win by a landslide, they will win but not by a land slide.
- Well Ok, we shall all see soon enough.
How was this specifcly refearing to past events.
- I was replying to what ubermunche said this 8/12/04 11.19pm - "I seem to remember not so many years ago how politicians and social commentators chided people for their fear of violent crime and antisocial behaviour, how in real terms it was far lower than people imagined."
Originally posted by shorty
We shall see.
And the past ref bit fair enough i obviouusly didn't read the thread properly.
Originally posted by Paul
I still believe that gun crime in this country is greatly over-exagerated.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Under my desk, I have a revolver and a pistol, both loaded. On my desk, I have two loaded 15 round magazines. I like it that way and I feel sorry for those who lack the right to be similarly armed in their homes.
Originally posted by UK Wizard
Originally posted by Paul
I still believe that gun crime in this country is greatly over-exagerated.
The reason it is over exagerated in the UK is that people live in less living area than in America. This means news spreads quicker and the chinese whispers effect comes into play.
I hope that made sense to somebody