Undocumented LA County Parents On Pace To Receive $650M In Welfare Benefits

Night Star


I have no idea what the exchange rate is or how much they save before leaving. It was years ago since I have conversed with them. I know numbers were thrown around but didn't pay much attention. All I know is that they get a hell of a lot more with our money in their country.

Here is what I am reading..."I do not know, I do not know, I do not know, and by the way, I have no idea."
Thank you for contributing.

Night Star

1104light

jed001
reply to post by 1104light

 

i know some guys that are not illegal and are doing just that, they are building a huge house in their native country and as soon as they get what they feel is enough money they are going back. the us dollar goes very far in south America and the Caribbean

Why did they come here in the first place?

To get the money to build the huge house in their own country. Our money is worth so much more in some countries. They come here and make their american dollars and the exchange rate in their country makes it worth a lot more.

Well that makes sense. Money here is worth more there so come here and make it. I am just curious what the dollar amount is that gets them to leave.

It doesn't matter, socialists and progressives tell us that we have an OBLIGATION due to some social contract that no one has actually signed, to help those that cannot help themselves.

That people somehow have a right to use an omnipotent body of force steal from others' hard work for their own gain, whether it be positive or negative.

social contracts FTW.

My parents came to this country as immigrants, and they did so legally and did not take a dime from the government. They went on to become American citizens, taxpaying productive members of society.

It is because of them, and the hard work that they put in to make something of themselves in this country, that I do not care if all of the illegals who leech off of this system were rounded up and deported en masse.

If my parents had to play by the rules, than so should everyone else's. I don't care if they produce anchor babies or not.

libertytoall
Why is this a negative article?? The children who are receiving the intended funds are US CITIZENS. Did anyone even read??? They are entitled to the same benefits you or I could expect. Just because the mother is not a citizen doesn't negate the rights of the children who ARE US Citizens.. Anyone who has a problem with this is a complete as$hat.

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Fine.

Then arrest their piece of garbage parents, ship them back to mexico, and the kids will become wards of the state as US Citizens.

If the kids are going to bleed the system, they can do so on their own.

I have no sympathy for people who engage in this behavior. If you want to be in this country, you must do so LEGALLY.

If the parents wouldn't have broken the law, those babies wouldn't even be here. I'd hardly call an anchor baby a citizen. That law was meant for slaves when they were freed, not illegals.

reply to post by eLPresidente


It's called basic human evolution. Every society that's ever existed has had ways of assisting its weaker members. There's even significant evidence that early humans such as Homo erectus and the Neanderthals cared for the elderly and infirm. Empathy like this is a natural biological imperative, you can see the exact same behaviour of working for the good of the tribe over oneself even in current hunter-gatherer societies.

Night Star

If it came down to your family or an illegal's, which would you choose to get the help first??? We have hungry citizens right here in our own streets who do not get the help that an illegal is getting. And you say we should be ashamed? No one said they didn't have compassion for another human being but when a foreigner recieves help while a citizen suffers, that is just wrong!

But you see - it hasn't come down to that, and I have no medical insurance nor assistance. It's not US vs THEM. It's just US - all of us US citizen and not.

I don't care who you are - when you are desarate, you will do what you have to to feed yourself and your family. Rob cheat and steal and all the damage that does to all of us.

I know many formerly homeless - I've heard what they did to survive.

I would perfer to feed the hungry and heal the sick of whatever legality. Seem to be that's what a famous Preacher taught over 2000 years ago as well.

If I die without food and without healthcare at least I won't die in fear of whatever comes next - karma's a bitch.

reply to post by FyreByrd


Christ would help all, and he most surely wouldn't deny his family, which is the case here. U.S. citizens "family" need help, aren't getting it, illegals "non-family" need help, and they get it. Christ would help all. I only see one group getting help here, for the most part, anyways. Also, you would have to agree, if we took care of our "family" first, there would be more to go around to help those "non-family" members.

kimish
reply to post by FyreByrd

 

Christ would help all, and he most surely wouldn't deny his family, which is the case here. U.S. citizens "family" need help, aren't getting it, illegals "non-family" need help, and they get it. Christ would help all. I only see one group getting help here, for the most part, anyways. Also, you would have to agree, if we took care of our "family" first, there would be more to go around to help those "non-family" members.

My point exactly!!!!!! It isn't that we don't have love and compassion for our fellow man, we are seeing double standards where a foreigner is getting the help that our countryman is not. Who would sacrifice the welfare of his own children and put others ahead of them?

reply to post by FyreByrd

I don't care who you are - when you are desarate, you will do what you have to to feed yourself and your family. Rob cheat and steal and all the damage that does to all of us.

In over thirty years of working with illegals and getting to know them, not once have I ever met a 'desperate' illegal. It cost them money to get here, money for fruadulant documents...if you are desperate, there is no money for anything, not one penny! Not a single illegal was underweight or starving in any way.

Many said they came here because they heard how much they can get by being illegal. Many have saved money from here and because it is worth so much more in their own country, they return and have big farms or a big house with water front property as in the case of a couple of friends. They never had any intentions of staying.

If an illegal was starving or desperate, they would be accepted as a refugee.

kimish
reply to post by FyreByrd

 

Christ would help all, and he most surely wouldn't deny his family, which is the case here. U.S. citizens "family" need help, aren't getting it, illegals "non-family" need help, and they get it. Christ would help all. I only see one group getting help here, for the most part, anyways. Also, you would have to agree, if we took care of our "family" first, there would be more to go around to help those "non-family" members.

Christ didn't distinguish between family and others - all were his family. I think that Christ would say help others and you own needs will be met.

Night Star
If an illegal was starving or desperate, they would be accepted as a refugee.

You contradict yourself. They are refugees.

FyreByrd

Night Star
If an illegal was starving or desperate, they would be accepted as a refugee.

You contradict yourself. They are refugees.

They are individuals who have chosen to break the laws of another Country. If they were desperate, they could have recieved helped.

reply to post by Wiz4769


A bunch of unmitigated bull#e. They may receive food stamps but there is no "welfare" for illegal immigrants. If you have a problem feeding children irrespective of where they come from, well that is on you.

Where is your friggin outrage for the trillions in tax dollars that have went to bail out, not just US banks, but foreign banks as well. And what about AIG?? And General Motors.

Seriously, you have a problem feeding some brown kids??

You and your ilk make me sick to my stomach.

GrantedBail
reply to post by Wiz4769

 

A bunch of unmitigated bull#e. They may receive food stamps but there is no "welfare" for illegal immigrants. If you have a problem feeding children irrespective of where they come from, well that is on you.

Where is your friggin outrage for the trillions in tax dollars that have went to bail out, not just US banks, but foreign banks as well. And what about AIG?? And General Motors.

Seriously, you have a problem feeding some brown kids??

You and your ilk make me sick to my stomach.

If an illegal has a baby while they are here, they do indeed get welfare, food stamps, cheap housing...
All the while we have many citizens falling through the cracks who make like a dollar above the poverty limit and cannot get help. That dollar won't buy a jug of milk, never mind help to pay medical bills or anything else.

Is it right or fair to give illegals so much when we have citizens having to decide on paying for food or life saving medicine? What makes the illegals so much better that they can recieve so much while citizens are jobless, homeless and hungry? There are people all over the world who need help and deserve help but will never get it. It is sad and it is frustrating, but if America can't take care of its own citizens, it shouldn't be placing foreigners above those citizens.

I don't understand how people just don't get that. They see the illegal's side and completely ignore the double standards and the plight of the poor American citizen.


Personally, I have seen too much for too long and it is time that the American people come first in their own Country.

We have a new form of slavery going on in the US and it is called illegal immigration. The government through the welfare system pays the illegals to be here, and in turn the US now has a CHEAP labor force. They work in construction, as nannies, housekeepers, farm labor and the list goes on and on. They are paid next to nothing but guess who gains the benefits, the employer or who I like to call the slave masters.

It sickens me, that in this day and age we allow something like this to happen. We act high and mighty that we are helping these people all the while dragging them through the mud.

reply to post by GrantedBail


Not to be a dick, but you brought color into it when it wasnt mentioned. Something to think about.

Night Star

FyreByrd

Night Star
If an illegal was starving or desperate, they would be accepted as a refugee.

You contradict yourself. They are refugees.

They are individuals who have chosen to break the laws of another Country. If they were desperate, they could have recieved helped.

From you?

They are all desparate. In the case of refugess from the America's they put their lives and their meager wealth in the hands of criminals in hope of getting here.

You speak as if they just fly in and stay. Nothing could be further from the truth and shows the ignorance and arrongance of many US Citizens.

They are not criminals - (maybe some of the Cuban refugeess of the 70's that Fidel sent to the US).

They are refugess - economic refugees mostly - but in the case of Mexicans, refugees from the drug wars.

Just calling a person 'illegal' doesn't make them criminal.