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"That electrical energy can be economically transmitted without wires to any terrestrial distance, I have unmistakably established in numerous observations, experiments and measurements, qualitative and quantitative. These have demonstrated that it is practicable to distribute power from a central plant in unlimited amounts, with a loss not exceeding a small fraction of one per cent, in the transmission, even to the greatest distance, twelve thousand miles — to the opposite end of the globe." ~ Nikola Tesla
Nikola Tesla constantly wrote about what he called non-Hertzian waves. During his epochal visit to Colorado Springs in 1899, he made new discoveries about the nature of electromagnetic waves, known to some as stationary or longitudinal waves, to others as scalar waves.
Heinrich Hertz (1857—1894), the discoverer of electromagnetic or "wireless" waves, described the action of electric and magnetic fields as radiating from a wire in transverse waves (the familiar up and down sinewave-like motion) that would equal the speed of light. The measurement of frequencies as cycles per second was changed to Hertz, or, Hz in his honor. Hertz's discoveries would later be more fully understood and taken up by such great giants like Tesla, but in his time Hertz had no idea what these "radio" waves could be used for.
Nikola Tesla advanced the electromagnetism theory into new dimensions, further than Hertz and other scientists of his time could conceive. He described his "wireless" waves being far superior to Hertzian waves, which diminish with distance. Tesla foretold of a brilliant new future for humankind, using his non-Hertian "wireless system," including the ability to generate power and transmit it to various parts of the globe.
www.teslaenergy.org...
In conclusion, there is nothing extraordinary about the Wardenclyffe tower apart from the fact that it could transmit power around the world wirelessly. That is still quite extraordinary however, and it's the real reason why the funding for the Wardenclyffe tower was pulled.
It's tempting to say that longitudinal electromagnetic waves don't exist. For the most part that's true, but there are some exceptions where they can be created, like in a wave guide, for example.
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
The above diagram shows the basic difference between a transverse wave and a longitudinal wave. Some examples of these types of waves can be observed in earthquakes and the seismic waves that travel through the Earth. The P-waves are compression waves which are longitudinal in nature and travel much faster than the S-waves which are shear waves that are transverse in nature and arrive later than the P-waves because they are slower. What Tesla was talking about works on the same basic principle but it deals with electromagnetism.
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One of the great achievements of science was merging electricity and magnetism into the theory of electromagnetism. This has led to many wonderful advancements and virtually all of our modern technology is based on electromagnetism in one way or another. But it seems we often forget that electromagnetism is made up of two different elements which in some cases can be treated as separate entities. What Tesla seems to be doing is making use of longitudinal electric waves which are transmitted through a standing electric field which exists between the metallic dome receivers.
If you and all your neighbors were flying balloons in the sky to collect the electricity, seems like it could be pretty messy...not just visually, but when the wind blows it could tangle the lines to the balloons, and balloons have a limited life with the materials they are normally made of, so unless you could come up with a better balloon design you'd be constantly replacing balloons and your power would go out each time one popped.
Originally posted by alldaylong
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
Tesla was not the inventor of AC current. That honour goes to Michael Faraday. In fact i would put Faraday ahead of Tesla in many fields. That includes the field of electromagnetism and AC current. Because Faraday was not an American you are not taught about him:-
en.wikipedia.org...
edit on 25-8-2013 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)
Pixii was born in France and followed in his father's footsteps, becoming a builder of scientific instruments. He had a short life, dying at the age of 27in 1835. Pixii's claim to fame came as a result of English physicist MichaelFaraday's discovery of electromagnetic induction. In 1831 Faraday, experimenting with his discovery, had taken a copper disk and spun it between the poles of a permanent magnet. This created an electric current which could be drawn off the disk with a wire and put to work.
Faraday announced his discovery to the Royal Society of England and includeda description of a simple dynamo, a machine that produces electricity. Pixii,guided by Faraday's description, proceeded to build his own generator, moreefficient than Faraday's. His machine was hand-driven and had stationary coils around which revolved a field magnet. Pixii's generator produced alternating current (AC) which was of little interest at the time. Following a suggestion by French physicist André Ampère (1775-1836), Pixii installed a commutator which converted the AC into direct current (DC). Alternating current would not be utilized until 160 years later, thanks largely to the efforts of Nikola Tesla.
The device that Pixii built was essentially a working model, but it was the first practical generator built on the principle Faraday had discovered. Later, Zénobe Gramme established a very profitable business building electric generators.
Read more: www.madehow.com...
The actual purpose of Wardenclyffe was as a wireless communications device.
The trouble with trying to transmit electricity through earth is that it is frightfully inefficient.
And no, electricity does not travel faster than light. Just another example of how Tesla missed the boat with his lack of understanding of electromagnetic radiation.
I don't see broad practical value in point to point wireless electricity distribution, because we transmit power from point A to millions of homes and businesses, not just point B (or a limited number of receiving stations). There are commercial wireless power transmission technologies available today, but they use ordinary transverse waves and don't use the ionosphere so don't require any balloons to send or receive the power.
There's a patent for Wardenclyff? Here is what Telsa said during the foreclosure proceedings:
And what evidence is that claim based upon? The patent clearly says it's for transmitting power wirelessly and Tesla made it pretty clear that the purpose of it was to transmit power wirelessly around the world.
Q: Tell the Court generally, not in detail, the purpose of that tower and the equipment you have described connected with it.
A: Well, primarily the purpose of the tower, your Honor, was to telephone, to send the human voice and likeness around the globe.
Yes there is. One exists and one doesn't.
Tesla is not talking about electricity, he's talking about electric waves. There is a difference.
Yes he did believe that. He was wrong. Did did not understand what was happening.
There is a difference. He believed that he had discovered a new way to transmit electrical energy which was very different to the classical flow of electrons or classical transmission of electromagnetic radiation.
Well it isn't an electromagnetic wave but can you provide some evidence that it would work inside a cage? Remember now, we are talking about high frequencies, short wavelengths, and what that implies about the design of the cage.
For example, the wireless transmission device will still work even if placed inside a Faraday cage, which indicates that the signal being sent is not a typical electromagnetic wave.
On the contrary. There is a very good understanding of far field transmission and its limitations. There really is little mystery about it.
We still don't properly understand how his wireless technology works to this day.
There's a patent for Wardenclyff?
But he couldn't get it to work.
Well it isn't an electromagnetic wave but can you provide some evidence that it would work inside a cage?
On the contrary. There is a very good understanding of far field transmission and its limitations.
Originally posted by Angelic Resurrection
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
Good effort, though I can surmise as much, that you don't have any understanding of physics at all.
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
And when we talk about the theory of electromagnetism we must also keep in mind that it is an incomplete theory. In order to fully understand how electricity and magnetism and gravity all work and how they relate to each other we require a greater grand unified theory which we don't yet have. These are still major unsolved problems in physics, I think it's fair to keep an open mind on the possibilities. The only real wisdom is knowing that you know nothing.
Originally posted by Phage
In conclusion, there is nothing extraordinary about the Wardenclyffe tower apart from the fact that it could transmit power around the world wirelessly. That is still quite extraordinary however, and it's the real reason why the funding for the Wardenclyffe tower was pulled.
The actual purpose of Wardenclyffe was as a wireless communications device. Funding for Wardenclyffe was not pulled. He spent all the money he was given and still couldn't get it to work.
The trouble with trying to transmit electricity through earth is that it is frightfully inefficient. Since it is a non- directional system energy loss is phenomenal (inverse square) and that doesn't even take into account the variations in conductivity which occur with varying soil/rock conditions.
And no, electricity does not travel faster than light. Just another example of how Tesla missed the boat with his lack of understanding of electromagnetic radiation.
Originally posted by Phage
He spent all the money he was given and still couldn't get it to work.