Julian Assange: "I`m a big admirer of Ron Paul"

Originally posted by Make Speed Limit 45
Fork ron paul. He won't admit 911 was an inside job. He's paid by the govt to simply play the role of govt critic.

So what? Not everyone has to agree on every single detail. This is about the general direction and philosophy, not specific theories.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Who cares what he thinks, he is not a US citizen.

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He`s world-famous and started this whole new thing of secret-leaking. After that came Manning and then Snowden and there are more to follow.

In the big scheme of things, the endorsement is good for the Pauls.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Rand isn't as libertarian as I would like,

I don't care if someone is a dem, a rep or a libertarian (though I'd prefer a Libertarian in office), what I care about most is a politician that cares about truth. You can easily tell whether a politcian is for REAL or not, regardless of party.

reply to post by Skyfloating


Rand Paul is the only realistic chance for america and the world for the next 8 years. I kind of like the guy although he is not exactly like his dad. Slowely we need to transition to third parties and drop political correctness.

What is currently happening in egpyt, the snowden disclosure, russia picking up the slack is encouraging.

I try to remain positive as much as I can.

The democrats and republicans have become neoliberals and neoconservatives respectively. They are not the traditional types like they used to be. Ron and Rand Paul offer hope of traditionalism and SAYING NO to the bilderberger globalist scum.

Watching Alex Jones and David Icke have awakened me quite a bit.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
The real libertarian was gary johnson who got .99% of the total vote. Ron and Rand Paul seem like traditional conservatives that are against the globalist agenda, not really libertarians.

Ron Paul not a Libertarian? RP defined modern Libertarianism in the last 20 years or so. Long before all this 9/11 and truther stuff came up. Many of us have known RP for that long too.

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
The real libertarian was gary johnson who got .99% of the total vote. Ron and Rand Paul seem like traditional conservatives that are against the globalist agenda, not really libertarians.

Ron Paul not a Libertarian? RP defined modern Libertarianism in the last 20 years or so. Long before all this 9/11 and truther stuff came up. Many of us have known RP for that long too.

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So he ran with the republicans just to have a shot at the presidency? I will admit I have not known him for more than 8 years. I started digging into him after the birth of the tea party which is rather recent.

Has he ever ran as a libertarian?

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07


What is currently happening in egpyt, the snowden disclosure, russia picking up the slack is encouraging.

I try to remain positive as much as I can.

Libertarians are usually an optimistic bunch. Thats why we need more in office.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07


Has he ever ran as a libertarian?

No. Realizing its not time for a third party yet (maybe for another few decades?), he runs with the Reps. Republicans have always had a marginalized Libertarian part, a christian social conservative part, a neoconservative part, just like Democracts have always had a centrist/moderate part, a liberal part and a progressive/PC part. My Libertarian mindset tells me the Neoconservative and the ProgressivePC parts are the ones making all the noise and trouble with their authoritarian ideologies.

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07


Has he ever ran as a libertarian?

No. Realizing its not time for a third party yet (maybe for another few decades?), he runs with the Reps. Republicans have always had a marginalized Libertarian part, a christian social conservative part, a neoconservative part, just like Democracts have always had a centrist/moderate part, a liberal part and a progressive/PC part. My Libertarian mindset tells me the Neoconservative and the ProgressivePC parts are the ones making all the noise and trouble.

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Lots of greens, socialists and communists vote democrat just like libertarians vote republican out of desperation I suppose.

I want to see the two big parties demolished and third parties competing with the big ones on equal ground.

The constitution party is attractive to me because I am progressive, liberal and conservative on various issues. How can someone be the same thing across the board always suprises me.

reply to post by havok

Exactly.

This will be spun as a negative for Ron and Rand.

Shame what the US has come to. Government and media make for a terrible combination.

I want to see the two big parties demolished and third parties competing with the big ones on equal ground.

Having a multi-party system would be very good for the U.S. Things would get more nuanced and intelligent.

The constitution party is attractive to me because I am progressive, liberal and conservative on various issues. How can someone be the same thing across the board always suprises me.

Instead of taking each issue as a standalone (which would require a lot of thinking), ideologists prefer view everything from their "liberal" or "conservative" glasses (which requires no thinking).

But the dumbing down of society is already being reversed. Bush and Obama have very much helped the Libertarian or Multi-Party cause with their many police-state implementations.

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Who cares what he thinks, he is not a US citizen.

.

He`s world-famous and started this whole new thing of secret-leaking. After that came Manning and then Snowden and there are more to follow.

In the big scheme of things, the endorsement is good for the Pauls.

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Ya every politician has private eyes out there combing the dark alleys seeking fugitive endoresments, because fugitive endorsements are good. Hahahaha good one.

He just damaged Rand Paul even more than the quirkiness of his fathers runs.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP


He just damaged Rand Paul even more than the quirkiness of his fathers runs.

Julian Assange is a hero of the left. His endorsement will get lots of Dems to look into Rand Paul (without bothering to realize that Rand Paul is incompatible with their leftist views).

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by TinfoilTP


He just damaged Rand Paul even more than the quirkiness of his fathers runs.

Julian Assange is a hero of the left. His endorsement will get lots of Dems to look into Rand Paul (without bothering to realize that Rand Paul is incompatible with their leftist views).

Sorry friend but the liberals(especially the NEO types) are anything BUT left. That is why we had Occupy a few years back raising havoc in many american cities. If the left was happy with Obama they would have stayed home.

I support Occupy but I also tolerate Tea Party, because I am smart enough to realise that both movements are for truth regardless of their different views and ways.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Sorry friend but the liberals(especially the NEO types) are anything BUT left. That is why we had Occupy a few years back raising havoc in many american cities. If the left was happy with Obama they would have stayed home.

I support Occupy but I also tolerate Tea Party, because I am smart enough to realise that both movements are for truth regardless of their different views and ways.

From what I can tell, the Dems contain different parts...the whole spectrum from left to center.

The only political movement that contains both left and right elements are the Libertarians.

Back on topic: I wonder if Assange is ever going to get out of this Embassy building...

reply to post by Skyfloating


No, if I were Ron Paul and were getting an endorsement from Julian I`d be quite happy.

That's not what I'm saying. I just mean that the propaganda machine always finds a way to make these people out to be two things:

Traitors
Crazies

So when a perceived traitor endorses a perceived political crazy person, you can imagine what the average voter thinks.

As for Hillary. Yeah, she's setting up policy speeches and already has super PAC's. There's no other democrat that could push that kind of message to that many people. With the Bill machine behind her as well?

It would take a hell of another candidate with a lot of money to push her from political dominance till at least the end of her first term.

I'd love to be proven wrong though.

~Tenth

reply to post by tothetenthpower


With all due respect I think Obama has set the democrats up to fail for AT LEAST 8 years if not more. I don't see how Hillary Clinton can overcome this stigma attached to liberals. Look at operation fast and furious, the bailouts numbering about $5 trillion via the federal reserve, the continous unemployment, the supplying of arms to the muslim brotherhood in the middle east that supports cannibal terrorists, the snowden revelations about spying and Obama wanting him tried for espionage, eric holder and his fetish for illegal aliens crossing the mexican border.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

With all due respect I think Obama has set the democrats up to fail for AT LEAST 8 years if not more.

If you haven't noticed, liberals are going through that weird transformation that conservatives did back in 2008 with the Tea Party. Trust me, democratic support is still very, very strong these days.

I don't see how Hillary Clinton can overcome this stigma attached to liberals.

Go find me a liberal based article or person of noted opinion in the media who talks crap about Hillary Clinton. Or doesn't fawn over the thought of her running 2016.

Look at operation fast and furious, the bailouts numbering about $5 trillion via the federal reserve, the continous unemployment, the supplying of arms to the muslim brotherhood in the middle east that supports cannibal terrorists, the snowden revelations about spying and Obama wanting him tried for espionage, eric holder and his fetish for illegal aliens crossing the mexican border

None of those things, are currently issues that Americans seem to vote on. There's no suitable republican candidate and no suitable plan that will be able to compete with the machine that is the Clintons.

Trust me, I wish it weren't this way. I wish those two would just go away. They won't though.

Here's an analogy I like to use.

Once every 4 years, a politican takes 1$ out of your pocket. He steals it. Throughout the rest of the 3 years, he gives you back 10 cents. Most voters, only remember the 10 cents he gave them, not the other 90 he put in his pocket.

You certainly won't seem mainstream candidates running against the NSA or have support for people like Julian Assange. The protect American rhetoric is only getting to intensify.

~Tenth

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

Hillary Clinton is going to dominate the political scene from here to the next election and beyond. Rand isn't as libertarian as I would like, nor most moderate libertarians

~Tenth

I guess you didn't Maureem Doud's Hillary column over the weekend...read and weep...