Brad Thor tells O'Reilly NSA is Recording ALL of our Phone Converstions

Big Shock....Didn't we know they had a keyword list?



What else are we going to find out. Why the paranoia?

Also, revealed through Fox that they are constantly photographing from the sky.

How can 217 traitors stay silent. Nobody will even explain their vote.

This cannot stand...

I thought we all knew this already? From what I understood, "they only pull out the calls themself, when you become a party of interest". Which I really believe, yeah right...

Plus the video says that he "thinks" they are doing it, but he is not 100% certain. But like I mentioned, I was under the impression that they were.

Originally posted by elouina
I thought we all knew this already? From what I understood, "they only pull out the calls themself, when you become a party of interest". Which I really believe, yeah right...

Plus the video says that he "thinks" they are doing it, but he is not 100% certain. But like I mentioned, I was under the impression that they were.

edit on 25-7-2013 by elouina because: (no reason given)

Well they have been denying recording of US to US calls.

We all knew they were. Yet they continued to reassure us they weren't.

The truth on this will come out. We can't just blame Obama.

Some of the Congressman that have been up there for 100 years....They knew.

I think this matters because saying we knew, IMO, only properly refers to "we" as in the regular conspiracy theorist community and people similarly awake/aware of whats happening.

In my experience? That excludes about 85% of the general population. lol...... Brad Thor is known and respected by a lot of people tho. I love his books, but he's also become known through media appearances. Every bit helps for more knowing whats been happening, right?

reply to post by whyamIhere


wanna see my dictures baby doll

People can correct me on this if I am mistaken.

They don't record all your calls, just whatsis called who, when. If for some reason they decide your "calling activity" is worth a closer look they may then enable a key word identifier on your line to see if you use certain words associated with their investigation. If they get "hits" on the key words, then bits of conversation around the "trigger" words are recorded and checked by a live body. If they then determine that you warrant a full time monitoring then you probably are talking to somebody or on a line that has/is being investigated.

If the electronic surveillance warrants a real world "partial" surveillance, a decision is made to authorize the prohibitive costs of actually parking down your street and watching the address, opening your mail, going thru your garbage, whatever.

If then another further decision is made to watch the house full time, it is because the short surveillance has born fruit and the meth lab your brother has in the basement or the "suspicious person" renting the room upstairs is wanted or part of an ongoing investigation. An authorization is then made whether to raid or not and prior to that a period of two weeks round the clock non stop active surveillance on your home is carried out to record peoples habits. Just prior to the actual raid, the "smash and bash team" runs a prelim on the floor-plans to your house all its occupants, any weapons, blah, blah, blah.

Only then do they pile up nearby in some parking lot and then come crashing your door in.

Whew, by then a lot of money has been authorized by higher and higher echelons of the local authorities, state, and any (higher) agencies to begin this and carry it thru to the actual raid. They need to justify all the expenditure and carry it out in stages that justify each intensification of the whole process.

By the time your door is actually broken down they are pretty sure you are guilty of something that justifies all their actions focused on you. This is how any investigation goes down suspecting criminal activity be it drugs, weapons, whatever. The whole process takes months unless say tips or emergencies warrant something faster.

Otherwise, R_E_L_A_X, you aren't that special! The gubment is not recording everything you say all the time. That would require more computers and storage space than the whole planet has room for.

Sure... deny, deny, deny,,,,,, and if you are actually caught in the act, defer, explain, ask for forgiveness.... but continue working on the other stuff you haven't been caught doing yet. Like an onion.... layers and layers and layers of Orwellian, corrupt, paranoid, power grabbing behavior.

reply to post by intrptr


And at what point were your 4th Amendment rights given away? Sure you are not doing anything wrong-- that is until they decide you are. How far back can they go? Oh just as far as they need to.

Please do us all a favor and wake up.

reply to post by MsAphrodite

And at what point were your 4th Amendment rights given away?

You mean taken away, right? I never had any as far as I know. When the rubber meets the road they have always done as they please. They just make it sound like your rights are being upheld. Or if its a hi profile case they will "acquiesce" that time.

Sure you are not doing anything wrong-- that is until they decide you are.

You ever been arrested in a raid or just talking? They make stuff up as they go is my experience.

How far back can they go? Oh just as far as they need to.

They been running investigations just like I laid out for decades. I should know I was drug addict and (unwillingly) involved a number of times.

Todays computers have no problem recording everyones "Meta Data" (just in case).

Please do us all a favor and wake up.

To what, that suddenly they raid everyone for talking smack on the internet? They're coming to take you away, boom, boom.

pffft. You're too full of yourself. Sorry, you are not that important.


ETA: Just keep going to work and paying your tax, you'll be fine.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I think this matters because saying we knew, IMO, only properly refers to "we" as in the regular conspiracy theorist community and people similarly awake/aware of whats happening.

Actually, no... William Binney mentioned in 2012, that all phone calls were transcribed. And he was right about everything else, so I tend to believe him on this also. He just didn't have any proof like Snowden has, so his whistleblowing was worthless. And so would have Snowden's if he followed the conventional whistleblower route.

Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by intrptr

 

And at what point were your 4th Amendment rights given away? Sure you are not doing anything wrong-- that is until they decide you are. How far back can they go? Oh just as far as they need to.

Please do us all a favor and wake up.

Another....If you aren't doing anything wrong argument.

As a proud American I will not even dignify that ignorance with a response.

But, I am sure glad you did...

reply to post by whyamIhere


To state the record accurately, we only use three hops. That is, three degrees of seperation.

So, as long as you don't know someone that knows someone that is on our list for using words such as "cloud" or "bird", you will be perfectly safe.

We're only watching terrorists. And the people that know them. And the people that know the people that know them.

If you're not doing anything wrong, it shouldn't bother you in the slightest.

reply to post by whyamIhere

Whats amazing to me is how some seem convinced that everyone is suddenly in danger of being arrested or whatever for talking openly on the Internet. "Be careful what you say or you will be in trouble".

And that is precisely what I would expect the people in charge to say and hope everyone buys into.

Originally posted by NSAHole
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

To state the record accurately, we only use three hops. That is, three degrees of seperation.

So, as long as you don't know someone that knows someone that is on our list for using words such as "cloud" or "bird", you will be perfectly safe.

We're only watching terrorists. And the people that know them. And the people that know the people that know them.

Well it does. You see I'm an American and I am deeply offended.

If you do work for the NSA....We won't rest until you are back to a private security gig.

To start your argument with your statement ...

If you're not doing anything wrong, it shouldn't bother you in the slightest

You are not fit to be employed by the people...I hear the IRS has some openings.

reply to post by whyamIhere


When I hear that rationalization I just get so upset. Looks like my point was wasted, but thank you for your support!

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

Whats amazing to me is how some seem convinced that everyone is suddenly in danger of being arrested or whatever for talking openly on the Internet. "Be careful what you say or you will be in trouble".

And that is precisely what I would expect the people in charge to say and hope everyone buys into.

That's just so not the point my friend...

Since when do we start with the argument that it is even legal to do this.

It is not legal. When it is legal, I will be glad to have the discussion.

I refuse to start with the premise...They are already doing it. They are common criminals.

reply to post by whyamIhere

Since when do we start with the argument that it is even legal to do this.

I don't understand your point. I didn't say it was "legal", they do.

It is not legal. When it is legal, I will be glad to have the discussion.

Again, all I am saying is they have always done this kind of thing. I am old enough and been around enough to know this. Its not "News" to my ears. And not very important either. I am not selling drugs or guns or child porn. I'm sure they could give a crap about my opinion. They are going to do it anyway, no matter what we say.

I refuse to start with the premise...They are already doing it.

Well they are. what are you doing about it? Typing?

They are common criminals.

They say we are. So what? Sorry, you misunderstand me. I don't think its okay. But I take a bigger picture. These "listeners' as you call them are not really interested in knowing what everyone says. They have much bigger fish to fry. Like entire nations they are trying to conquer outside Americas borders. Everyone inside Americas borders is already conquered.

No? When did you last hear of any rebel style activity here? Anywhere? I'll wait. Americans for the most part put up a lot of fuss on here, but don't actually do anything but talk.

Here's another way of looking at it. There are millions of drug addicts out there, right? They call their dealers on the phone and drive around to buy dope and use dope and steal things to get the money to buy dope, right? The authorities would love to catch every one of them and thousands of police actively pursue them and listen into their phone calls and surveil them and still they can't catch them all?

Who cares about a bunch of people griping on the internet about eavesdropping?

If I'm still missing the point let me know.

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by MsAphrodite

 

ETA: Just keep going to work and paying your tax, you'll be fine.

So just sit down and shut up and everything will be ok? Keep pumping money into a corrupt system and don't make any noise and you will be fine?

reply to post by wondermost

So just sit down and shut up and everything will be ok? Keep pumping money into a corrupt system and don't make any noise and you will be fine?

Playing devils advoacte. I assume people who can afford computers and the internet are working for a living and they pay taxes which the government uses to build bombs. By the way, I don't. I am the change I want to see.

About actually doing something? Sure, let me crank up my motorized divisions and head towards Washington... be right back

Love your Avatar by the way. Are you plugging your ears to keep them from being damaged by a blast or just to keep form hearing the truth?

reply to post by whyamIhere

Sorry, I replied twice.

As a proud American I will not even dignify that ignorance with a response.

How can one be a proud American these days?
I'm a real American and I am filled with shame about my countries behavior. Above and below. Here and abroad.