10 signs your co-worker is a spy

This is kind of crazy in it's implications. I for one do subscribe to the larger conspiracies. I get the Marsh and McClellan, Kroll Industries, Silverstein, and AIG's part in 9-11. In fact I think the complicity encompasses hundreds of people. But, I digress...

I found this article so interesting. If you realize the ability of the NSA and their "partners" to participate in the wholesale snooping of the public in general. What's to prevent those with deep government connections from eliminating competition through dubious means.

The implications are astounding. If you have come to believe in the huge infrastructure of the Intelligence agencies and their brass plate front companies; With the spy apparatus they have, what is to keep them from owning and being at the top of every single industry we have??

I read this article today. To me it was kind of lame, but the more I thought about it I came to think that perhaps it is one of those "limited hangouts". Judge for yourself.

Snip>6. They delay everything with endless worries. “Advocate ‘caution,’” the manual advises the operative who is trying to undermine an organization. “Be ‘reasonable’ and urge your fellow-conferees to be ‘reasonable’ and avoid haste which might result in embarrassments or difficulties later on.” They worry about “whether such action as is contemplated lies within the jurisdiction of the group or whether it might conflict with the policy of some higher echelon.” They “apply all regulations to the last letter.” Do you have someone in your office who acts like this? They may be a spy.

7. They grind you down with endless, pointless bureaucracy and form-filling. They “multiply paperwork in plausible ways,” according to the manual. They “multiply the procedures and clearances involved in issuing instructions, pay checks, and so on” and “see that three people have to approve everything where one would do.”

8. They “spread disturbing rumors that sound like inside dope.”

9. Mismanage. Government agents in management have a powerful arsenal at their disposal. “To lower morale and with it, production,” the intelligence agency advises them, “be pleasant to inefficient workers; give them undeserved promotions. Discriminate against efficient workers; complain unjustly about their work.” Does your boss favor the office idiot? Do you have incompetent co-workers who are constantly getting perks or promotions they don’t deserve? Is your hard work constantly overlooked? Your boss is a saboteur secretly working for the intelligence service.

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There is more

What is your take on this ATS??

lol a little paranoid I believe...
But what I just read pretty much describes the military on a daily basis, but no spies there....
Far as I know....KEY BEING, "Far as I know"

reply to post by Arnie123


Do you really think I am being paranoid?? Or just asking legitimate questions that need to be asked??

If the NSA has this massive data collection infrastructure; why would they not use it to benefit financially?

Almost the definition of bureaucracy. I agree with your post. Happens in hospitals run by large corps daily. S&F/

reply to post by GrantedBail


I agree with you.
I don't think YOUR paranoid, I think the writer of that article is though.
But regardless it does bring up valid points considering the size and scope that has been revealed with the whole NSA thing and PRISM as a whole.
As far as I know, there could be INTERNAL spies in the military, for a while there we thought there was CID in our unit because we would have soldiers join our ranks, low grade to high grade soldiers and were told they are just here for a little while, try to avoid them...
Of course they ended up being soldiers from other units who were in trouble and needed to get out of their, though that was the story told to us.
To suggest this kind of action that you perceive would be a massive under taking beyond any scope I have seen and maybe even bigger than that of the NSA and its dirty tentacles that infest cyber space...hell even bigger than the Supression of UFOs by world wide governments.

reply to post by GrantedBail

Headline aside, this isn't about spying. It's about low-key economic sabotage through inefficient work. I have no idea how it's related to the NSA, which did not exist in WW2 and would not have been involved in these kinds of resistance manuals even if it did. The idea that the NSA (or any other intelligence agency) is intentionally causing minor inefficiencies in American firms falls wonderfully before Occam's razor, leaving the simpler hypothesis that inefficient work is caused by inefficient workers.

If the NSA has this massive data collection infrastructure; why would they not use it to benefit financially?

Because they're a government agency, and when they want money they send someone to the Defense Appropriations Committees and ask for a few billion more dollars, and they get it. If you mean "why don't individual NSA employees use it to benefit financially," that would be because doing illegal things in a very small, very audited system is a very bad idea, especially when you are subject to various forms of financial monitoring and polygraphing. It's also wrong, and that still matters for some people. Consult James Q. Wilson for the general theory of why people in bureaucracies do the things they do.

reply to post by GrantedBail


Well normally it would seem typical corp BS. In light of all the NSA, etc. spying I think there may be something here worth keeping an eye on. After working for more than a decade for a company that is now directly implicated with the fascist US spy organization this information takes on new perspective.

reply to post by FurvusRexCaeli


Well, your premise would make sense but you forgot about the elicit drug trade and how that finances most of our intelligence endeavors. Drug money has caused and extended our war efforts for at least 50 years.

Then you have to ask yourself about the brass plate front companies. Where do they get their funds??

Could it be from the "War on Drugs"? Oh I mean the "Let us control the drug flow".

Yeah, that is what I thought.

I think a spy is someone you told that you bang a certain co-worker and then the whole department knows about it.

Holy crap I'm a spy...

2nd

Originally posted by Xtrozero
Holy crap I'm a spy...

2nd

You're prolly not a spy.

You're prolly just the guy everyone hates.

Originally posted by Frankenchrist

Originally posted by Xtrozero
Holy crap I'm a spy...

2nd

You're prolly not a spy.

You're prolly just the guy everyone hates.

No I'm really good at all that stuff so everyone thinks I'm great

reply to post by Frankenchrist


ha ha ha ha, that is funny. I just used to do everybody. They all knew. I was real popular.

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Frankenchrist

Originally posted by Xtrozero
Holy crap I'm a spy...

2nd

You're prolly not a spy.

You're prolly just the guy everyone hates.

No I'm really good at all that stuff so everyone thinks I'm great

That's what you think.

reply to post by FurvusRexCaeli


Well that is silly don't you think. There are black budgets that are off the books. You act like the GAO is on top of everything LOL.

Hey what about those trillions that could not be accounted for when Rumsfeld had a news conference on September 10, 2001??

What about all the drug money. Oh I would suppose that you think we have been in Afghanistan for 12 freakin years to tame the Taliban.

And, what the heck do you think is going on in Mexico. Is is really a war on drugs, or is it a very successful control of the drug trade.

Think about it.

reply to post by GrantedBail


Certainly plausible to me.

The bureaucracy is most gifted at furthering itself in super dysfunctional ways that exasperate to infuriate normal, more productive people.

That spies would do the same and more is quite plausible, to me.

Of course . . . certainty in such conjectures is likely routinely less than 100% and unwise.

Most people probably deserve some benefit of the doubt.

On the other hand, if their politics and sensibilities are in support of socialism, Communism, globalism, NWO . . . they are likely far more guilty than even seems to be the case.