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You just finished saying how we learn traditions and languages, and begin acting like those around us. Well, those around me are mostly Christians. Should I worship that god merely because it's a local thing to do? If I move to Saudi Arabia should I worship that god because it's a local thing to do?
It's the same in the animal kingdom. Alpha males rule. It's a natural thing.
How do you know? Just because you don't have memory of something happening doesn't mean it didn't. Some people remember being spirits choosing all of this. They call it "Before Life Experiences".
Maybe, but it's possible to gain more freedom of thought by listening to many different perspectives and then choose which feels best to you.
Which one? And how do you know we are
'supposed' to be slaves of something?
Did the one enslaving you tell you that
you were 'supposed' to be enslaved?
I'm sure even human slave-masters
said the same back then.
It's not what you said. Enlighten me, what dominating influence are we "completely subservient" to?
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by logical7
I think i'd like being his friend better than his slave. He considered Abraham his friend, not his slave.
Originally posted by logical7
reply to post by NOTurTypical
It's not what you said. Enlighten me, what dominating influence are we "completely subservient" to?
how many social things you do just because its a norm? How much are you even aware that they are just actions of social confirmity?
How much of a sheep are you? I don't know if you have questioned all the things you believe and do but if you haven't or rather just seeked justifications to confirm them. I don't know you much so its you who knows best.
Originally posted by logical7
reply to post by jiggerj
You just finished saying how we learn traditions and languages, and begin acting like those around us. Well, those around me are mostly Christians. Should I worship that god merely because it's a local thing to do? If I move to Saudi Arabia should I worship that god because it's a local thing to do?
NO, not as an adult but you too are influenced by your surroundings and events and are living a life reacting to these things.
I don't know your family background or how you were raised as a kid etc, maybe you should think how much are you a product of your past and having a belief based on reactions to some past events.
Originally posted by logical7
reply to post by jiggerj
It's the same in the animal kingdom. Alpha males rule. It's a natural thing.
Is it?
so if a younger guy beats you and defeats you then you will metaphorically hide you tail between your legs and SUBMIT and take his belief?
Originally posted by logical7
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by logical7
I think i'd like being his friend better than his slave. He considered Abraham his friend, not his slave.
then you should bring it into your actions and refrain using words like "Lord", "Master"etc
About Abraham pbuh, God gave it as a title to him, other prophets got titles too like Jesus pbuh is the Word of God.
Originally posted by logical7
If we are supposed to be slaves of something then why not be slaves of our Creator?
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by logical7
reply to post by jiggerj
In a word, yes, but on a much grander scale because there's so many of us. We adhere to the Alpha male called government. If another country were to take over my country, then we either submit or die. Look at what's going on in Egypt. One belief system is in constant battle with another belief system. Sooner of later one side must win out.
what about being servant of God or submission to God, do we have such concepts in Christianity ?
I think k at this point you should look up the terms "complete" and " subservient", then readdress my last post again.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by logical7
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by logical7
I think i'd like being his friend better than his slave. He considered Abraham his friend, not his slave.
then you should bring it into your actions and refrain using words like "Lord", "Master"etc
About Abraham pbuh, God gave it as a title to him, other prophets got titles too like Jesus pbuh is the Word of God.
God never commanded us to refer to him by his titles, but by his name. He said "go and proclaim my name to the nations" not "go and proclaim my titles to the nations".
Psalm 105:1
Oh, give thanks to the Lord!
Call upon His name;
Make known His deeds among the peoples!
Also if you think you are worthy of being a friend of God like Abraham pbuh then you should be ready to go through hardships and tests as he went and obeyed God even to the extent of being ready to sacrifice his son.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by logical7
Also if you think you are worthy of being a friend of God like Abraham pbuh then you should be ready to go through hardships and tests as he went and obeyed God even to the extent of being ready to sacrifice his son.
I sacrifice my own body. That is what a christian is, we are living sacrifices to the Lord. I've been through my share of hardships and still give glory to the Lord. I am a living testament of his power, love and mercy. I live in a dessicated and diseased body and although I once counted it as a curse, I now see it was a blessing.