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"This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world)."
Originally posted by JDmOKI
reply to post by Sonny2
One question. why isn't this in the Koran?
Christians who hate muslims are not real christians and muslims who hate christians are not muslims according to Muhammad's letter.
You should read the Quran before asking such a thing.
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by Sonny2
You should read the Quran before asking such a thing.
Screw that! No one needs to try to understand Islam. A man could preach peace and love all day long, but if he's cutting peoples' heads off, abusing his wife and honor killing his kids, well those actions speak loud and clear on how THAT man interprets his own holy texts.
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by Sonny2
You should read the Quran before asking such a thing.
Screw that! No one needs to try to understand Islam. A man could preach peace and love all day long, but if he's cutting peoples' heads off, abusing his wife and honor killing his kids, well those actions speak loud and clear on how THAT man interprets his own holy texts.
Originally posted by Bone75
reply to post by Sonny2
Nice post
I recently learned that Muslims don't hate Christians or Jews, but the Jews that have become friends with the Christians are their true enemies.
Is this correct?
Originally posted by rawcatryde
reply to post by Sonny2
Where are the letters commanding his slaves to NOT fly airplanes into buildings mass murdering innocent children of God almighty? Just how civilized do you think the rest of the world sees you? You and your murder cult are destined for the glow in the dark ash heap of history!
www.thereligionofpeace.com...So what should we accept as his message? His book or some random letter?
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.
Originally posted by finitedualities
You know how there's that weird section of YouTube? Well, I just found that section for ATS, where ignorance and bigotry reign supreme! Surprise, surprise it's the religious section
Originally posted by Bone75
reply to post by Sonny2
Nice post
I recently learned that Muslims don't hate Christians or Jews, but the Jews that have become friends with the Christians are their true enemies.
Is this correct?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Sonny2
That same Muhammad also said it's permissible to lie to the infidel to deceive them into a sense of security and peace. His other statements about Jews and Christians show his true colors. Hitler did the same thing when speaking in front of a heavily Christian public, but his private discussions with close aids and friends show how he really thought about us and our faith.
Originally posted by deadeyedick
www.thereligionofpeace.com...So what should we accept as his message? His book or some random letter?
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.
8:12 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."