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Originally posted by queenofswords
reply to post by Cor Leonis
Thanks for taking the time to lay out the explanation. It is the explanation I have been given all my life. We were redeemed by means of his sacrifice. It still does not answer the question I originally asked, however, and one which I have pondered over for decades.
Why?....by what mechanism....was it necessary to have a blood sacrifice? Was it merely the rules of the game? Or was there some scientifically relevant reason behind the necessity that Jesus sacrifice his blood.
Why couldn't God simply forgive mankind for the error of their original parents.....simply forgive the debt so to speak. Why did his son have to shed his blood? What was the "science" behind the requirement that blood be poured out?
edit on 24-4-2013 by queenofswords because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by queenofswords
reply to post by Cor Leonis
Thanks for taking the time to lay out the explanation. It is the explanation I have been given all my life. We were redeemed by means of his sacrifice. It still does not answer the question I originally asked, however, and one which I have pondered over for decades. Why?....by what mechanism....was it necessary to have a blood sacrifice? Was it merely the rules of the game? Or was there some scientifically relevant reason behind the necessity that Jesus sacrifice his blood. Why couldn't God simply forgive mankind for the error of their original parents.....simply forgive the debt so to speak. Why did his son have to shed his blood? What was the "science" behind the requirement that blood be poured out?
Originally posted by asinapi1
Blah, blah. Anyone that tries to explain what god's intentions are or claims to know what god is? Is missing the point. Who are we to know god's voice?
Originally posted by bloodreviara
The irony in this statement is that one must first decide which god
we have been created in the image of, i love how christians have
this huge ego and think just because their religious book says
so that they are the chosen ones, guess what? most other religions
tell their followers that too! and science isn't trying to overthrow or
replace god at all, it is simply fixing all the problem that religion
promises to yet cannot deliver on the promises it has made.
You must remember that crhistians told us faith healing was
real, so they tested it, not real, they told us god would guide
and improve the world yet until science came along and finally
got the recognition it deserved and was allowed to develop
free from the clutches of the church nothing really did change......
I just love how religion can flat out ignore its lies and false promises
yet science which actually fixes and proves that what it claims
is actually true gets called the evil liar..... WHAT HAPPENED TO
HONESTY? i thought there was some command about not
lying?? oh that one only applies if the truth does not prove that
the claims of religion are lies.......
Holy Mackerel! Hey Cor Leonis, the Middle Ages sent its Homing Pigeon with a message, and it says it wants it's mentality back!
Originally posted by Cor Leonis
reply to post by the_philth
Your ignorance is shining brilliantly! You do not understand the circumstance regarding the flood during the time of Noah. The DNA of all humans at that time had been altered through the union of fallen beings. Their children were called the Nephelim (Children of fallen Angels and daughters of men) in Genesis 6. The whole of human kind had been corrupted through the alteration of the human DNA. The plan of Satan was to corrupt the human race by changing the DNA. If Satan could corrupt the whole human race the promise of God too crush the head of Satan through a Savior could be stopped. Noah and his family, their DNA had not been corrupted. The Bible says that Noah was perfect in his generation. The word perfect does not mean he was morally perfect. It means his DNA had not been corrupted. All humans had corrupted DNA and therefore had to be destroyed so that God could bring about the salvation of mankind. The wickedness of man was great in the earth at that time.
God destroyed the human race through the flood because of his love and mercy and grace for you and me!
Originally posted by supergravity
reply to post by eleven44
Men are under a strong delusion that they can take over god using science ,What they dont realize is all matter in the universe is blinking on and off so fast they cant measure it,in other words we are in a large quantum computer created by yeshua and he is laughing at there attempts to rule over his creation.
Originally posted by DeliberatusImmemor
reply to post by Cor Leonis
Sweet!
So we can blame our choices on the "devil" and not take responsibility for our own actions?
Reminds me of Adam and Eve doing the same thing.
Some things never change, eh?
Originally posted by Funafuti
reply to post by eleven44
This is how I feel it to be:
Before time, there was a oneness. The oneness "said": "I am one, let me be many" and the oneness created the Universe. A prerequisite for the Universe to exist is duality. Without duality (yin & yang), there couldn't be any relations between anything - the oneness couldn't be many.
The oneness is pure consciousness. We are human. Humans are conscious. We created ourselves to witness ourself. We ARE God.
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by eleven44
The good news is... We can also create the solutions.
We can create peace.
We can create community.
We can create any world that we can imagine.
How can we create peace without killing all of the warring people (Little Fat Boy in North Korea, all the lunatic Islamic terrorists, people in power using their military to force their will on other nations)?
How do we create community without killing all the drunks, druggies, whores, wife beaters, pedophiles, thieves, psychopaths; the greedy, the selfish, all gang members, violent people, stupid people, ambitious, aggressive, intolerant, prejudice...
You can imagine any kind of world you want, but what you imagine isn't realistic.edit on 4/24/2013 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)