The US Grounds 1/3 of Airforce

This is completely out of control. By some sinister scheme cooked up by the Obama administration and his cronies in the Pentagon, they are grounding 1/3 of the Airforce while he party's at the White House. Why don't we just invite the Iranians, Russians, North Koreans and China over to take everything we own because we will have no way to stop them anyway. I beleive it's been Obama intentions all along to weaken us weaken us so much that we can't resist the NWO. His plan is succeeding in a big way now that we are fanacially hog-tied.

Why the mainstream media is not reporting this is because their Socialist Leader would get a lot of flak fron the 22M veterans in the US.

This article says it all from
www.military.com...

Can you please paste a direct link to the article?
I can't find it.

That link did nothing for me as well...

Try this instead.

reply to post by eagledriver


Here we go.

www.bbc.co.uk...

The cuts took effect after Democrats and Republicans failed to agree to another plan to cut spending and reduce the US budget deficit.

Before you go demonizing Obama. Please realize that there are some 500 men and women on capital hill that could not come to an agreement.

As far as I'm concerned. Each and every one of those congressmen failed in their jobs and should be all fired come next election.

reply to post by eagledriver


yeah, cause we all need to worry about a US land invasion from China or Russia...



Think about this way, all that tax payer money saved instead of all that needless fuel.

~Tenth

reply to post by grey580

As far as I'm concerned. Each and every one of those congressmen failed in their jobs and should be all fired come next election.

You're right about that...although I had already decided to do that after the last one.

Perhaps we should sponsor a bill that every time this kind of deadline is breached, Congress automatically gets a pay cut, and their campaign contribution limits get reduced. Perhaps THAT would drive the point home?

Check this link

www.military.com...

Yes, let's save the fuel and have untrained pilots in the mean time. Also, let's cut out all the fraud and corruption and keep our defense strong. If we can't keep our planes in the air, the F-35 will be cancelled.
Also, Obama is the master of deception and politcal stunts and the sequester was his artwork. He also failed to compromise of budget cuts, but the Congress did it for him, and he refused to compromise even though it was already done for him. He is the obstructionist, but his buddies on the networks spin it differently.

Well you could argue either way on whether grounding so many planes is good or bad but you can't really argue that America is pretty much impossible to invade.

The two oceans protecting our sides are pretty much impossible for any current military force to overcome, Canada has our North, and the Cartels have our back in the South.

I think we are safe until we work it out.

Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by grey580

 

As far as I'm concerned. Each and every one of those congressmen failed in their jobs and should be all fired come next election.

You're right about that...although I had already decided to do that after the last one.

Perhaps we should sponsor a bill that every time this kind of deadline is breached, Congress automatically gets a pay cut, and their campaign contribution limits get reduced. Perhaps THAT would drive the point home?

Term limits should be the way to go.
None of this office for life sort of thing. Leads to too much corruption and cronyism.

Actually it should be more like Jury Duty. It should be random. And you need to pass a test to make sure you are qualified to hold office.

Originally posted by grey580

Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by grey580

 

As far as I'm concerned. Each and every one of those congressmen failed in their jobs and should be all fired come next election.

You're right about that...although I had already decided to do that after the last one.

Perhaps we should sponsor a bill that every time this kind of deadline is breached, Congress automatically gets a pay cut, and their campaign contribution limits get reduced. Perhaps THAT would drive the point home?

Term limits should be the way to go.
None of this office for life sort of thing. Leads to too much corruption and cronyism.

Actually it should be more like Jury Duty. It should be random. And you need to pass a test to make sure you are qualified to hold office.

edit on 10-4-2013 by grey580 because: (no reason given)

While that may seem like a good idea, what you get is a lot of inexperienced people voted in by less experienced voters.

Imagine having a doctor's office that never keeps the same doctor for more than two years. Every two years, a brand spanking new, college fresh, ink-wet-on-the-paper, doctor is put in the position of reattaching your intestines. And even more, what if that new doctor was voted in by a bunch of people that know nothing about how to reattach your intestines, and therefore have no idea how to judge whether the doctor will actually be capable of the work.

reply to post by grey580

And you need to pass a test to make sure you are qualified to hold office.

I'd rather see voters pass a test to be qualified to vote and candidates be held to their promises or get kicked out of office.

Originally posted by Zarniwoop
reply to post by grey580

 

And you need to pass a test to make sure you are qualified to hold office.

I'd rather see voters pass a test to be qualified to vote and candidates be held to their promises or get kicked out of office.

The test would inevitably be biased in favor of the test creators' opinions of what it is to be a reasonable voter.

That is also counterproductive.

And that also speaks worlds about the world we live in now, if you believe you need to force your idea of what is reasonable voting upon other voters (it means that you believe the majority of voters are voting against better judgment - whether true or not, that is your implication).

If you waste brain power trying to make choices for other people, you fail making good choices for yourself.

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The timing seems odd . But a third ? I'm sure that at least a third would always be on the ground anyway.

reply to post by TarzanBeta

(it means that you believe the majority of voters are voting against better judgment - whether true or not, that is your implication).

Not so much. It means I believe a large majority of voters have no idea what they are voting for. It's hard to have "better judgement" when you don't understand the issues or stances.

I know it's and endless loop on this one.

reply to post by TarzanBeta

While that may seem like a good idea, what you get is a lot of inexperienced people voted in by less experienced voters.

You are assuming that the people already in office are smart and qualified to be in office.
Yet we have people in office that think the internet is a series of tubes.

Like I said before. They would have to past certain tests to be voted in. And maybe an IQ test.

reply to post by TarzanBeta

The test would inevitably be biased in favor of the test creators' opinions of what it is to be a reasonable voter.

Wait a second. We test and license professions all the time.
Lawyers, engineers, dentists etc.

What's the big deal testing and licensing politicians?
Why can't we be sure that the people we have in office know what they are doing?

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by tothetenthpower

 

The timing seems odd . But a third ? I'm sure that at least a third would always be on the ground anyway.

It is a little odd that they release this information today of all days (considering NK). I wouldn't be surprised if that was not deliberately timed. The subject matter of the operating costs and possibly grounding or scrapping for the jets and bombers in question has been an ongoing one for a while.

According to this article, the jets and bombers getting grounded are the F-22, F-16, A-10, and the B-1:

Article from July 2012 in regards to the F-22 problems: www.nytimes.com...

In regards to the F-16 that also is being grounded, there's this from November 2012, where the GAO called foul on the cost estimates of the F-16 for being underestimated: www.daytondailynews.com...

Discussion of the A-10 that the USAF was announcing plans to shelve in January 2012: www.motherjones.com...

And the B-1 bomber. They were starting to talk about scrapping it in 2010: defensetech.org...

Note that there is nothing said in the 1/3 of the USAF being grounded about the F-35 that they are hoping to replace them with. Yet, the F-35 is cited in many of these articles as their replacement. So yeah, interesting timing indeed while we're pondering whether war with NK is imminent, they're going to tell us how budget cuts are forcing them to ground these particular aircraft.

reply to post by WhiteAlice


Excellent post Alice.

OP !
Alice has your back !

Originally posted by eagledriver
By some sinister scheme cooked up by the Obama administration

Why just whine about Obama? Why not complain about all of congress not being able to pass money bills?

or do you somehow think it is all a secret plot all of onama's doing?

They grounded planes before 9/11 if I recall correctly. This is absolutely a sign of "world terrorists" getting ready to shock, awe, and lie once more. China and Russia get to sit back while other countries fight it out. Once our forces are weakened and spread out to thin, becomes an opportune time to invade. God Bless and Peace to all, Xenongod P.S. Hope the off-topic Obama trippers chill out and stay on subject!