US Marine recall? New war coming soon? NK?

OK, strange bit of info came my way today... and perhaps those in the know can shake me from my "conspiratorial, something is coming" way of thinking.

I have an employee, on the job for nearly a year, and a former US Marine. Moved to the location of the new job, bought a house, and got married within this year. Honorably discharged from his service. Now, the details of a Marine's discharge are something I know nothing about... not sure how long he served, what his "job" was in the service, and what a Corps contract contains.

At any rate, he just put in his notice that he'll be soon leaving the job. He's been recalled by the Corps and has to report to West Virginia (???) in May for 6 weeks of training before shipping out of the country. He either doesn't know or won't tell where he is headed after training.

NOW.... here's my thoughts. The last time I saw something like this in a civilian back to millitary life recall was during Desert Storm (or at least it was the last time it impacted anyone I knew.) So to me, it appears that there may be a very massive run-up to a very massive millitary campaign. I don't know of any bases or training areas in WV (didn't Google either... lazy) but I wonder if WV is chosen for terrain-based training, or there are some other specialized facilities there. The only terrain matches that immediately come to mind in the "hot spots" of the world is North Korea.

So... has anyone else encountered or heard of any recalls like this? Anyone have any thoughts or anything to add? Am I out of my mind and this is completely normal for veterans of the Corps?

Thanks, look forward to hearing something from the gang here (even the disinfo agents who will shout "nothing to see here, move on").

reply to post by larphillips


Interesting!

I wasn't aware of bases for training in WV, so I looked it up and found this....

Afghanistan-bound military personnel from across the nation will learn to operate Mine Resistant Ambush Protected troop carrier vehicles, or MRAPs, on reclaimed surface mine land adjacent to the West Virginia National Guard's Memorial Tunnel training complex.

The heavily armored 23-ton MRAPs, which can hold up to eight soldiers, were developed in response to heavy losses being suffered by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan from improvised explosive devices.

Source

Now is this for possibly a preparation for Iran? Or since our wonderful Homeland Security has purchased about 2700 of these vehicles, is it more training for use against the American people????

I guess time will tell......

I only see two US military bases in West Virginia.

Both seem to be connected with naval issues. Here is a link:
Military bases in W. Virginia

reply to post by seeker1963


OK, great find! That at least ties in the WV connection. Now, I wonder if this is a big recall or my employee has a special skill that is currently lacking. That said, I really feel for the guy and his new wife... they're getting seriously uprooted.

reply to post by seeker1963


I checked and found this relating to the tunnel training complex that you found:
Center for National Response

Interesting....

The Center for National Response (CNR) is an operational component of the Joint Interagency Training & Education Center (JITEC) that is a National Guard training activity operated by the Chief, National Guard Bureau and the Adjutant General of West Virginia. It is a flexible WMD training complex that provides multiscenario exercises for the military or joint operations with military and first responders.

So they do training with first responders. It is for counterterrorism training. Seems to be for operations that would fall inside our borders, if they are training with first responders???

reply to post by butcherguy




DHS

reply to post by butcherguy


Would they dare place active US Marines on US soil?

Word is NK has quite an extensive tunnel complex. Also, Iran has most of their nuke and defense facilities underground.

I'm just throwing things out here... I'm wondering if anyone else has heard of any recalls.

The news is fairly fresh (at least in this case), as my employee got word either late yesterday or today.

Originally posted by ibiubu
reply to post by butcherguy

 

DHS

Hmmmm.
I'd say it wouldn't be a bad idea to stay ready, with things like this in the mix.

reply to post by larphillips

Would they dare place active US Marines on US soil?

It wouldn't violate any kind of law if they were just training.

Now, with the changes made with regards to posse comitatus, the feds can do whatever they please, I guess.

The main question is did he have any real specialist training that would make them pull him back into duty? as i can't see that redrafting a grunt being much of a plus especially when he's been out of the core for a while

Any events come to mind (real or manufactured) that would place active Corps on US soil? Natural disasters seem to be the realm of FEMA/National Guard. Civil unrest is usually Guard and LLE. Terrorist attack? My memory is fuzzy, but the troops on the ground during 9/11, were they Guard or Army/Air Force/Marines/Navy? Economic collapse and/or nationwide blackout (EMP attack) would not seem to be a good fit for the Corps. Just spitballing here...

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by larphillips

 

Would they dare place active US Marines on US soil?

It wouldn't violate any kind of law if they were just training.

Now, with the changes made with regards to posse comitatus, the feds can do whatever they please, I guess.

Yeah, I wasn't clear... not the training portion I was questioning. Just the eventual destination (if it has to do with DHS as others have speculated.)

reply to post by Maxatoria


Only out of the Corps a little over a year. Don't know his specialty or job, and at this point (and now with this thread out in the air) I'd rather not ask.

reply to post by larphillips
Here is what I found on Wikipedia....

The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws

Posse Comitatus Act

reply to post by larphillips


www.abovetopsecret.com...

If you can go to mapquest, search for Kingwood, WV. Due south of the center of town you will see a small airport along the Cheat River. On the opposite side of the river, you will see Rt. 72 & Alt. Rt. 72 "Y" intersection. Make sure you switch to aerial map. From that intersection, go due north along the river and you will see a set of buildings. Just north of that, you will see a line of trees and then there will be an open field on the other side of the trees. The open field is the location of the camp. You can see a small dirt road going around a darker green square of the field. If you look close enough, you can see tiny light green squares near the corners of the dark green square. You can actually see the shadow cast by the towers. Those are the guard's watch towers of the camp. The camp itself is the dark green square. The fencing is up and the camp is complete. All that needs to be done is erect the tents inside the camp. That takes about a half day or so. The whole camp I saw looks just like a POW camp. Across the river and along the airstrip for Camp Dawson is Delta Force Selection & Training buildings.

www.nioc-sugargrove.navy.mil...

Sugar Grove is an American government communications site located in Pendleton County,West Virginia operated by the National Security Agency. According to a December 25, 2005 article in the New York Times, the site intercepts all international communications entering the Eastern United States. The activity falls under the Naval Information Operations Command (NIOC).

The only reason that I know as to why the IRR Marines would be called back is because of low numbers. In most cases, when your out, your out. Your right to question exactly why this call back is happening.

Pladuim

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Very scary stuff... still trying to process this news and squeeze it through my filters including current events and my own conspiracy/questioning take on things. This could be nothing, but it doesn't smell right to me. Don't want to spin this into something major and huge, but then again, doesn't feel "normal."

It is possible that his civilian job sucked so bad that he put in paperwork to get back in the military then used that paperwork to exit his employment...

He could be one of the men in black going to capture some aliens and work at area 51 with some of the greys or being recalled for WW3.

I hope nothing is going on and the first one is the correct answer.

reply to post by knowledgedesired


Ha! Well, all of our jobs DO suck, but that's not it. He was recently promoted, and like I said, he just moved, got married, and bought a house. He was fully in for domestic 'nesting.' As stressful as our jobs are, I can't imagine it's anything like being on the wrong end of an AK47 or IED.

reply to post by larphillips


There has been guard call ups for drills concerning a potential New Madrid Fault Quake.

These types of MRAPs are not for that. Serving warrants are what they are for.

BTW, posse comitatus was really thrown away. Lawyer modifications don't mean anything.

All Americans that have stood by and let this happen without voicing concerns years ago are to be ashamed.

reply to post by ibiubu


Yeah, I don't think he is Guard... although I could be wrong. Not sure how his Corps contract read out, or if he chose the standard post-service Guard option for the extra income. But, unless I misheard, this was definitely a Corps recall.