6 Month Old Baby Shot While Father Changes Diaper, And Mainstream Artist Lupe Fiasco Releases A Song

For reference about the song:

The 6-month-old infant girl shot five times on Chicago's South Side Monday died in the hospital Tuesday morning.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

This thread is mostly about Hip Hop music, and it's relevance, if any, to gang violence.
After this tragic event Lupe Fiasco released a beautifully sad masterpiece, a song dedicated to the dead girl called "Jonylah Forever".

The song takes the perspective of what would have happened if the baby did not die and of a brave young man helping children.

Listen to the song here:



This song follows a very positive rant that Lupe Fiasco gave a few weeks ago where he talked about Hip Hop fans and radio DJs who talk about tragic events like this happening in the ghettos and immediately then after those same DJs play shoot em up gangsta music.




What are your thoughts on this?
Are DJs part of them problem?
What can be done to solve this problem?

What should we do as a society to help the situation out?

Also, is it possible that DJs are also part of the private prison conspiracy?

People with guns kill people, not music.

Awful tragedy, poor baby!

Shot 6 times and 5 hours of surgery - i cant imagine what the family is going through

Originally posted by Biigs
People with guns kill people, not music.

Music doesn't kill people.
But it can set a tone.

By the way I am not hoping for govt. involvement in music.
Music follows the money, showbusiness is 5% show and 95% business.

It's the fans that need to change, I know that.

Nonetheless that doesn't mean it isn't a social issue that the people can try to solve on it's own

To a point you are right and i agree.

If i never saw any TV or movie, didnt listen to any radio or people that depicted the choking of another person to kill them - id never know how to kill someone like that - thus id never kill anyone by choking them.

Therefore any outlet for information can be blamed, from news to TV and movies and also music. But dont ignore the millions of people that DONT kill anyone and yet absorb the same or more information.

People who have anger issues or mental instability are more likely to commit a violent crime using tactics they have heard about or seen. Should we ban all violent content? No, but perhaps instead of being entitled by age to experience certain violent medias, we should have a medical card verifying us as sane and there for "safe" to instead. Okay so im not being 100% serious about an medical sanity card to get into a 18+ movie, but you cant ignore the billions of people who are just fine having witnessed the same things those nut cases do and never hurt a fly their whole lives.

Its more than a gun thing. Its more than a DJ thing. its more than a music thing. Its more than a TV thing. Its more than a movie thing.

Its a culture thing. Its a media thing. Its a conditioning thing.

None of the things listed in the first paragraph have the capacity to be good or evil. But they can be used in good or evil ways.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
None of the things listed in the first paragraph have the capacity to be good or evil. But they can be used in good or evil ways.

I agree with that sentiment

However there are roots.
It's been proven that video games add to violence

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
None of the things listed in the first paragraph have the capacity to be good or evil. But they can be used in good or evil ways.

I agree with that sentiment

However there are roots.
It's been proven that video games add to violence

Thats my point, though. These things in themselves arent evil. When they are used to promote a culture of violence (in games, music, movies, tv, etc), they are being used for an evil purpose. And its quite obvious, at least to me, that there is an EVIL agenda to promote a cultural and societal acceptance of violence.

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Good god this is only a tiny part of the overall problems we have...you want freedom of speech, you get the crap that's on tv, radio and on the computer...amazing that some boob can print a handbook on how to pick up children (pedophiles guide) and it's covered under "freedom of speech". Becaue the moral compass is broken all that we are given through the constitution is now perverted in some way..the scum use it as a essentially a get out of jail card to either buy guns, put some screwed up stuff on the internet, or to make some insane handbook.

Whether or not you agree with the constitution these are the evils that counter all the good that it does and that's a fact...so we will continue to become numb to porn and bad music and consider it art or a way of expression because we don't want to feel uncool or offend anyone. Yet we are suprised when a ten year old girl is performing oral sex on kids at the back of the buss...what a wonderful world we created in the name of freedom...

Link to book, hooray freedom of speech

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Radio DJ's are not the problem.

FACT: Radio DJ's follow a playlist. They do not pick and choose what songs get played. That is the job of a program director. The DJ- has no authority at all to remove a song from the playlist.

If only that 6 month old baby had a gun to defend itself.

Time to arm 6 month olds with AR-15's?

Originally posted by MrWendal
Radio DJ's are not the problem.

FACT: Radio DJ's follow a playlist. They do not pick and choose what songs get played. That is the job of a program director. The DJ- has no authority at all to remove a song from the playlist.

I know well known DJs for major radio stations and this does not hold true
This is outdated knowledge

This is so sad. Until the media, parents, Fathers, Mothers, Brothers, Sisters, Al, Jesse, barack, neighborhood organizers, business owners, politicians, law enforcement personnel and everyone else admits that it is the welfare system, media, politicians all making minorities victims for their own gain. They are causing this life style. When you take away a man’s self-esteem, self-worth, he has nothing more to live for and life, family, women, children, etc. is meaningless and worthless.

Originally posted by muse7
If only that 6 month old baby had a gun to defend itself.

Time to arm 6 month olds with AR-15's?

These disgusting attempts at political baiting have not gone unnoticed.
It is precisely the mentality you exemplify that drives such a deep wedge so as to stop any sensible attempts at either addressing the problems at hand, or actually finding solutions that both curb violence from criminals that kill babies, and respect the individual rights of Americans.

You are part of the problem, Muse7. As intelligent as you are one would hope you could apply it to dealing with these issues. Instead you use that wit to drive that wedge deeper.

How sad.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia


I know well known DJs for major radio stations and this does not hold true
This is outdated knowledge

You know DJ's but I was a DJ for 20 years (until August of 2012), but I am sure I probably have no idea what I am talking about

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by MrWendal
Radio DJ's are not the problem.

FACT: Radio DJ's follow a playlist. They do not pick and choose what songs get played. That is the job of a program director. The DJ- has no authority at all to remove a song from the playlist.

I know well known DJs for major radio stations and this does not hold true
This is outdated knowledge

Dj generally set their own playlists these days, but they still get approved by station managers and they have a set list of songs that they can choose from.

They are also given guidelines as far as which songs MUST be played within their playlists and how many times per hour those songs must be played.

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I'm not saying program directors don't exist
But a DJ can have alot of power do
There's alot of radio stations where the program director and the DJ is the same person
Also even if that's not the case DJs nowadays get alof of freedom to pick songs they want to air as the list from the PD rarely fills the entire hour or hours a DJ has.

And as I mentioned, it's also the listeners, they are the one's that matter the most

Originally posted by ModernAcademia


And as I mentioned, it's also the listeners, they are the one's that matter the most

WIthout going too far off topic here, I will simply say that is not true. Look into the inner workings of record and distribution labels, then cross reference those corporations with those that own radio stations. 90% of mainstream radio stations are corporate owned now, and they ABSOLUTELY push certain products.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
WIthout going too far off topic here, I will simply say that is not true. Look into the inner workings of record and distribution labels, then cross reference those corporations with those that own radio stations. 90% of mainstream radio stations are corporate owned now, and they ABSOLUTELY push certain products.

You aren't going off-topic
definately on topic!
100%

But really?
I did not know that, that's crazy!!!

Can you provide some links because I do follow the music industry and i've never heard of this ever before in my entire life!!

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I cant get you links right now, Im on my phone and its a bit of a rabbit hole. Its all about parent companies.

Quick example:
Bob Pittman, CEO of ClearChannel (one of the bigger radio station owners in america).
Pittman is the co-founder and programmer who led the team that created MTV and has been CEO of MTV Networks, AOL Networks, Six Flags Theme Parks, Quantum Media, Century 21 Real Estate, and Time Warner Enterprises.
www.clearchannel.com...

Time Warner is a huge record label. We all know what MTV is.

One simple example. There are tons more out there. Most of todays 'pop' music is prepackaged and sold.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
You aren't going off-topic
definately on topic!
100%

But really?
I did not know that, that's crazy!!!

Can you provide some links because I do follow the music industry and i've never heard of this ever before in my entire life!!

I can probably do one better than provide links.....

Let me look around in some boxes, I am pretty sure I have a playlist or two packed up some where. Give me a few days and I will check on my next day off.