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Originally posted by fourthmeal
The game may involve people going to jail. The system has teeth. So what.
Originally posted by fourthmeal
Let's break it down some. Kauilapele (KP) would be the human being you are referring to here. I'll note that I read KP's blog daily or thereabouts. Yes, KP chose to do what his heart told him was right. And what happened for him was exactly what needed to happen, and since he deals with energy and light in his own way (sees it and feels it), he served how we could in that DMV office, because that's what felt right to him. See his blog for the actual details if it interests you. Point is, and don't misconstrue, the OPPT is about being who you want to be, and doing what you want to do. Every one has free-will choices to make, at all times. KP made his choices, and it was exactly what needed to happen for him. I'd also like you to note that KP asking for help is not for anybody else other than KP.
Originally posted by fourthmeal.
ATS members in opposition to OPPT have a nasty habit of lumping people together, it seams. See, I just lumped ATS members right there! But no, really, let's look at that. OPPT was lumped in with freemen and sovereigns. OPPT was lumped in with "Dove of Oneness", whatever that is (don't care.) OPPT was lumped in with NESARA, and while I contend it matters which NESARA you are speaking of (there are 2), I'd like to remind all here that really OPPT is just doing their own thing. Heather and the trustees have, as part of the People, done what they felt they needed to do. The rest of this has been all the People and what they are called to do. The other websites, radio shows, paperwork, court stuff, etc has all been the People. They are DO'ing and BE'ing how they feel is best.
Originally posted by fourthmeal
Cody going to jail is a great example.
Originally posted by fourthmeal
Cody had a POSITIVE life-changing event in prison. He was reached by another being, who was also called upon to serve. And that person changed Patrick Cody's life in a positive way.
Fee schedule The notice of understanding is typically followed by a "fee schedule" or "penalty schedules," listing a series of acts and associated penalties the freeman will attempt to levy against the government for perceived transgressions. If the state arrests or incarcerates a freeman against their will, they will then attempt to charge the state a fee for this action. This does not work out in practice and has attracted penalties in return.
Notices (e.g., those issued by courts, the police or some government agencies) are supposedly written in "legalese," the deliberately deceptive technical jargon language of "a company called the Law Society."The claim is that legalese looks like English and uses English words, but is not English. For instance, freemen assert that the word "must" in legalese is synonymous with "may" in English, "summons" means "invitation," "demand" means "offer," and "understand" (as in "do you understand?") means "stand under," as in "do you stand under these words?" (i.e., accept the terms of our contract).They claim that all these terms are sneaky ways of getting you to contract with the government without realising. No source is provided for this use of language; and some of it is demonstrably incorrect. The English word "understand" derives from an Old English word meaning stand in the midst of - under deriving from the Proto-Indo-European root *nter-, meaning "between" or "among", from where the modern English prefix "inter-" also derives.
Originally posted by fourthmeal
reply to post by vkey08
I don't have time to line-by-line correct you each time you lie. This is tedious. Again your posts reek of negativity and it comes through loud and clear.
What are you talking about Heather being an ambulance chaser? More made up derogatory comment by the opposition? How does investigating corporate fraud = ambulance chasing?
Look, you can wedge and angle all you want, ATS is making itself more irrelevant every day by not actually discussing this issue up front and honestly. Calling it a scam sets the tone. Bottom line, call in and ask the tough questions. Nobody will stop you. And you'll get your answers. IF, however, you've actually listened to each and every discussion and the progression of information, as well as the energy of the conversation and the truthfulness of those speaking, you probably wouldn't say what you've said thus far.
Keep judging though, I'm sure that'll turn out well for you.
You have mentioned ad nausem this article 9 revision. I'm well aware of it. I'm also well aware of it being too little, too late, and would have been rebutted had it been something of importance. But keep on dreaming and getting your information from what you consider substantiated sources, like the fellas at Quatloos or something. I'm sure they know all the angles.