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Originally posted by sleeper
The recently discovered god particle, Higgs boson...
Ironically, a discovery of a "god particle" would invalidate the existence of an eternal soul ...
Originally posted by AccessDenied
Good to see you Sleeper.
Quite sadly, what you state is true.
They tell us just enough to manipulate our thoughts into believing what we hear is true.
I have come to disbelieve in most things, even with my own eyes, as things are so easily faked nowadays.
Tis also a side effect I suppose of having little faith in the world and those that run it.
If it serves no purpose other to profit them, or further their agenda to profit...you won't hear about it.
Any truth in this world, if such a thing exists that is immune to subjectivity,will no doubt be forever hidden.
Whatever they can think of...is made our reality.
Originally posted by alfa1
Originally posted by sleeper
The recently discovered god particle, Higgs boson...
Ironically, a discovery of a "god particle" would invalidate the existence of an eternal soul ...
You're reading too much into it.
The "god particle" phrase was just stupidly invented to be an interesting title for a book.
It doesnt mean what you think it does.
Originally posted by sleeper
For instance, we were told a tale about a person named Osama bin Laden...that he was recently captured and killed and then like a fish thrown back in the water. Now it is common to throw back into the pond the little fish, the ones not worth keeping or showing off to fishing buddies. But who in their right mind throws back a trophy fish? A large and daring fish that has mocked and supposedly outsmarted the best fishermen on the pond? Some people will believe the most outrageous fish stories out there when the person telling the story is someone in a position of power.
The wool that is pulled over people's eyes is a never ending game. The recently discovered god particle, Higgs bosom, is just another fishy story in sheep clothing. Since most of us don't know diddly about subatomic particles lurking like fishes in the highly mysterious quantum world...invisible to most of us mere-mortals, especially since we don't have our own multi-billion dollar atom smasher to play with, are forced to believe whatever we are told (by the experts). Well those prestigious lucky souls that do have fancy taxpayer-provided toys do have to show or at the very least come up with earth shattering theories...if not discoveries every now and then, to justify having access to un-godly expensive and really cool toys.
My amateurish opinion is that no such particle was found, and never will be. If it were found it would significantly prove and justify all of the illustrious illusions and delusions humans have been force-fed about this world the last few decades in particular, and down through the centuries...
Ironically, a discovery of a "god particle" would invalidate the existence of an eternal soul and any reason for existence other than chance. Those in denial of a KARMIC universe would love that.
In my humble opinion neither a god nor a god particle exists.
Which brings me to the ape family, our once or twice removed not so human cousins.
By some estimates and by our smartest minds on the planet who have earned PhDs, humans are not much more than educated apes...apes being our nearest link to the slime that emerged and evolved into the cognizant human beings that we are today, which would explain the inherent human propensity for gullibility, hence every school in the world teaches Darwinism.
Religion is no saint in this mixed up world. It would be great if religion was the great big fat pacifier as claimed by some people but it is everything but a pacifier of the masses. Only recently in human years, the most powerful religion in the world, at that time, burnt people at the stake, killed them off, if they dared question the order of the universe...that the world was flat, unmovable and circled by the sun. Indisputably, the earth and the church was the center of the universe. It took a scientific genius as Galileo to prove them wrong...unfortunately not during his life but posthumously.
Other prominent scientists' survived Galileo's fate (demoted and stripped of his freedoms) by keeping quiet about their own religious-dogma shattering discoveries concerning the secrets of the cosmos until a more enlightened and less hostile era towards secularist science. After a few centuries the tables turned and the church was demoted and science won the day.
But as is true in most human affairs, those that take down the tyrants become the tyrants. Science is now the keeper of the cosmic secrets and dishes out only the ones they deem fit for mass human consumption. Boat rockers are quickly dispatched to the loony bin where they are scorned by the "intellectual" masses.
The message/mantra now is conformity, the word "gullibility" is not politically correct or acceptable... conformity is the rule of the day.
Originally posted by BrandonD
Glad to see such iconoclasts in my company on this forum. It is embarrassing how many people in the "alternative thought" community are simply castaways who jumped off of one boat and right on to another, rather than blazing their own trail.
Religion and contemporary science own equal shares of imaginary stock, used to sustain the illusion of infallibility. Whether one chooses the Jesus or Darwin football team has very little to do with reason, and much more to do with one's emotional temperament.
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by sleeper
The higgs field has nothing to do with a soul.
Its about where particles get thier mass.
You should really educate youself so you dont get caught up in a whirlwind of ignorant statments. Sometimes we all get carried away........
Originally posted by raul bloodworth
Great post Sleeper, really enjoyed reading that. It all rings true to me.
Its hard to understand why people dont recognise how this civilisation is constantly so gullible and caught up in its own pride. Most of the population seems so stubborn and tied to their beliefs, that it cant see the big picture.
Its hard living with people who are all so short sighted and gullible. I think if i had one wish for my next life, it is that i live in a society where the majority is not gullible and the news makers are not out of the loop (aka the blind leading the blind like earth), but where all people live in some kind of agreement and awareness of their surroundings - basically they are not easily duped and gullible
Originally posted by Shema
Hi. I'v always been inclined towards the likelihood that the gullible are led along because they actually want to be. Despite all the problems life in the 21st century is pretty miraculous by past standards and one could argue that its come about largely due to the bulk of humans consenting by going down a path created for them. One might also argue that they are not really gullible at all for it has by no means been an easy path yet they have on the whole stuck with it so why should we hope they will turn off now? Maybe we, who stand on the perimeter, looking on. passing comment, sometimes laughing sometimes scoffing sometimes sneering are simply whiners who aren't prepared to make the sacrifices to see the journey out?
On the other hand maybe we see another way that we would rather be heading but can't understand why everyone else blithely ignores us. Are we afraid to take a path that we must create ourselves? Afraid to step out on our own?
Are we perhaps envious of those who don't have to care about such matters since their path is laid down for them?
edit on 26-1-2013 by Shema because: (no reason given)