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Originally posted by Saurus
Originally posted by NarrowGate
That is unless, a Christian Mason can give me a definition of false god. A Christian Mason who believe the Scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and not just a set of moral guidelines.
OK, since you are a Christian, perhaps you could clear up the following issues regarding false Gods for me first...
1) The bible says:
"There is only one God."
The Bible also says:
"You shall not worship any other God."
How is it possible to worship any other God if there is only one? Doesn't this feel contradictory to you?
2) The Hindu concept of Avatars is identical to the Holy Trinity in Christianity. Christians believe that the Holy Trinity are three different manifestations of the same God. Likewise, Hindus believe that there are many manifestations of the same God.
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by NarrowGate
If there is only ONE God, and I believe that, then there is no possible way to worship any other God than the one and only. You could worship a false idol, or a person, but it's not possible to worship more than one God if you only believe in one. So your dilemma is cured.
So now you could worship beside a Hindu?
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by NarrowGate
Remember, I am the one who thinks everyone is praying to the same God, just by different names. So my opinion doesn't count. And don't take this wrong, but please don't join masonry. It isn't for you. You would worry too much about things that aren't going to change. Be happy in your church. Spend the time you would have in masonry doing random acts of kindness. Then everyone wins.
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by NarrowGate
If there is only ONE God, and I believe that, then there is no possible way to worship any other God than the one and only. You could worship a false idol, or a person, but it's not possible to worship more than one God if you only believe in one. So your dilemma is cured.
So now you could worship beside a Hindu?
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by InhaleExhale
So it is your claim God contradicted Himself or is it your claim that I am misconstruing what He said and contradicting myself?
eta: I am not the Gate. I take it you are not Christian?edit on 23-1-2013 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by InhaleExhale
So it is your claim God contradicted Himself or is it your claim that I am misconstruing what He said and contradicting myself?
eta: I am not the Gate. I take it you are not Christian?edit on 23-1-2013 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)
If I was making a claim, it would be the second part of your suggestion, however, I disagree with he/she words to use for God. God is one, male and female are dualistic concepts which have no place unless the one wishes to become two. God is the void, the darkness, the nothing and through the light is where all things come, meaning if you believe in evil do not say its the darkness, its the light that brought you that evil, because in the darkness that is all there is no love, no fear, just being.
I was baptized and follow the true message of the Christ which is rarely spoken of in today's Christianity.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
So how does the application of the prisoners dilemma in economics that I present in this thread www.abovetopsecret.com... tie into what I am getting at here - when it comes to the Church and Masons?
Originally posted by Pinocchio
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by NarrowGate
If there is only ONE God, and I believe that, then there is no possible way to worship any other God than the one and only. You could worship a false idol, or a person, but it's not possible to worship more than one God if you only believe in one. So your dilemma is cured.
So now you could worship beside a Hindu?
I'd like to believe that when the topic/subject of GOD is presented... that one can lend himself to the notion of races and the particulars which indicate crafts and heredom... as in heredity.
Crafts should denote... works.
And heredity/heredom should implicate the nationality and its focus on the way of the father and how it is passed on to the son. With that being the craft of the holy spirit. flag and seal should lend a square/flag and seal/circle.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by InhaleExhale
So it is your claim God contradicted Himself or is it your claim that I am misconstruing what He said and contradicting myself?
eta: I am not the Gate. I take it you are not Christian?edit on 23-1-2013 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)
If I was making a claim, it would be the second part of your suggestion, however, I disagree with he/she words to use for God. God is one, male and female are dualistic concepts which have no place unless the one wishes to become two. God is the void, the darkness, the nothing and through the light is where all things come, meaning if you believe in evil do not say its the darkness, its the light that brought you that evil, because in the darkness that is all there is no love, no fear, just being.
I was baptized and follow the true message of the Christ which is rarely spoken of in today's Christianity.
Okay, so Jesus was not male? Which part of the Trinity to you consider "female" and why? To my knowledge the Father and Holy Spirit are not male nor female. Jesus was male though, and Jesus is God.
The void you refer to would be lack of God, Hell.
You should stop falling for ancient deceptions....you are not the first one to fall for this. It is severely flawed in it's logic, and contradicts known Truth.
BUT, since you claim to know the true message of Christ, go ahead and "enlighten" me or on this case I guess "darken me?" sorry had to say it. Seriously though, what have you been taught and why do you believe it? Because it is different and you feel the Church must be wrong because of all of the shortcomings of those within Her?
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by NarrowGate
Where in the Bible does it say she is the Queen of Heaven? Sounds like a pagan influence stemming from goddess worship.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Pinocchio
Pinocchio being influenced by a demon. Black people do not radiate purple so it is the only logical conclusion.edit on 23-1-2013 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)
She is the Mother of God, but she is a creation of God's and not a goddess.
It is a term that was developed to show respect to her...