Plasma Stealth: Past & Present

So which modern materials should they have used in the 80s and early 90s while these aircraft were under development?

Composites have been used for many many years..Maybe not carbon fibre but something inherent to strength and durability at speed.Aluminium honeycomb is used quite well in B 747 series quite successfully and for an airliner that size does fly quite fast.
Wings are not the only things that manipulate air..
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originally posted by: Jukiodone
From OP:

"A physicist from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory had questions about how the aircraft's onboard systems would interact with a surrounding plasma field. For instance in order for the plasma field to be effective it would have to to be so powerful that the aircraft itself would have to be shielded from it's own stealth system.

He's absolutely right about that one. The systems integration issues with it blowing onboard stuff are legion.

I find plasma stealth to be a very interesting topic, I wonder if they can use the same method to become invisible to other forms of detection like the human eye.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

For the record, the photos in your post are Prandtl-Glauert singularities, not plasma.

originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

For the record, the photos in your post are Prandtl-Glauert singularities, not plasma.

Maybe it looks something like this. . . .

I wonder if there is any new breakthroughs with this technology?

So if they can absorb radar waves can they absorb other types of detection?
I wonder if this may be combined with quantum stealth.

www.military-heat.com...

First developed by the Russians, plasma stealth technology is also known as “Active Stealth Technology”. Plasma stealth is a proposed process that uses ionized gas (plasma) to reduce the radar cross section (RCS) of an aircraft. A plasma stream is injected in front of the aircraft covering the entire body of the aircraft and absorbing most of the electromagnetic energy of the radar waves, thus making the aircraft difficult to detect.

Plasma stealth is interesting. Thanks for sharing, all Illuminati-swine stealth technology is quite like plasma stealth, only that the plasma has long since settled to material. Our conflict with the rose quartz spirit is great. That stone shall either be subjugated or enlightened, being in swine service today. Thankfully its' neutrality enables Russian service too. We will subjugate the rock and with it render all swine stealth visible. The wet gel and aluminum coating will not be recognized as clouds in a hot situation. If war breaks out, major war, we'll attack the swine rose quartz and render it unable to service the swine...

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

Maybe it looks something like this. . . .

Not usually.

I wonder if there is any new breakthroughs with this technology?

It's possible.

Anyone want to try this in a Microwave?
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Some more rabbit holes..
Cavitation

Back in the day, the OSS had a need to know basis team that as far as the world was concerned, didn't even exist. This team was called the Crash Recovery Return Unit. Today there are 3 movies about this team. The Men In Black, Division: CIA. The OSS CRRU deployed on a moments notice, all over the world, to "Fetch" technology. Today's Black Ops and Green Ops are using plasma Tech 24/7. It's in their suits, their weapons, and their equipment.

Plasma releases energy in the form of heat and light. If I am trying to be stealthy, the last thing I want to do is glow or give off radiation. I may be able to absorb photons in the microwave range, but I will be emitting radiation in the UV/visible/infrared range.

A more interesting approach to stealth would be a 'meta material', as a coating or skin, capable of being 'tuned' by passing modulated currents through it, for the absorption of specific wavelengths of energy; e.g., another aircraft's radar energy.

a reply to: JMH61

The amount of light you're talking about with a system like this, when used for laminar flow control, is going to be no worse than a low light formation light, and is only going to be noticeable at very short ranges. At that point, you're pretty screwed if they can see it or not.

originally posted by: JMH61
If I am trying to be stealthy, the last thing I want to do is glow or give off radiation. I may be able to absorb photons in the microwave range, but I will be emitting radiation in the UV/visible/infrared range.

Most early plasma stealth systems did just that! A bluish-purple Cerenkov sort of thing caused by the radioisotopes they used at first.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: JMH61

The amount of light you're talking about with a system like this, when used for laminar flow control, is going to be no worse than a low light formation light, and is only going to be noticeable at very short ranges. At that point, you're pretty screwed if they can see it or not.

From my experiences, not that they're worth much, you are correct zaph.

The main lights you can see for miles, and hazy field around it for maybe a half to quarter mile, it appears they can "dial down" the luminosity, strength or size of that haze, when trying to be sneaky and in my instance directly overhead and at about no more than 1000 feet you can make out faint glow around fuselage but that's about it.

Could be haze is some field thats doing plasma stealth. Could be the pearlescent faint glow when "dialed down" is from meta materials doing the phase velocity faster than c thing when absorbing energy outside the envelope the material is doing the negative refraction index thingy in.

But all told if it were on an attack run you'll never see it coming until its far too late. Heck you might not be able to "see" it anyways.

So minus the three lights some craft can be very hard to see indeed.

At the end of the "project greenglow" BBC doc. they seemed to demonstrate an early POC of "gravimetric radar" using clouds of atoms confined within lasers using fast computers to derive none localised mass perturbations.

If we look at "stealth" as a progressive process where each innovation is eventually met by countrmeasure, surely plasma is redundant as a stealth technology?

If you wanted to hide from a gravimetric radar/mass sensors you would need to not only hide your optical and EM presence but also your mass!

A little off subject. I heard a report from someone that worked in White Sands testing a land based Russian radar. He stated it could detect a helicopter hovering below the radars reach. It was hovering the other side of the hill and the radar was able to detect the air moving above the chopper blades. This was not a direct radar reflection from the chopper. If that can be detected couldn't the air moving around an aircraft be sensed?
Just a thought.

Thanks for sharing

The eastern europeans definitely have some good technology ideas. I think the key in the globalist economy is finding the right collaboration partners to assemble the best air craft and produces.

a reply to: jmack